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ergo123
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 Posted - 11/10/2006 : 11:09:17 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by Dave W.
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Originally posted by ergo123
Are you suggesting that I should have started a new thread just to answer dave's request? Because someone told me to keep replies in the same thread until it is locked--and i think that person was you (or maybe one or more of the moderators).
It was filthy, and he was talking about your creation of multiple threads on the same topic. Surely since one's ability to remain neutral would be a concern no matter what the subject of discussion, it would be deserving of a new thread. I gave you that option, and you rejected it because, you said, you'd prefer to see me "melt down" in that linked thread. It's no surprise that you're creating lots of rationalizations to avoid having to actually discuss your alleged evidence of my (or anyone else's) mental state and motivations.
If you want to discuss the appropriate use of new topic threads and/or whether I took or should have taken your advice on starting a new topic, please start a new topic or risk an "official warning' from SFN staff--this is not a threat, but a friendly reminder of actions known to be taken when members post off-topic.
This reminder will not be repeated regarding the above bolded topic so as not to be confused with an off-topic discussion about not having off-topic discussions.
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filthy
SFN Die Hard
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Posted - 11/10/2006 : 12:35:26 [Permalink]
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quote:
Originally posted by ergo123
quote:
Originally posted by filthy
All of this bullshit, tens of thousands of words of it, could have been avoided if ergo had answered these few simple questions as best he could:
What conspiracy?
Who might the conspirators be?
How might the conspiracy have been carried out?
Optional: What grade of steel can withstand 2,000F without losing structural integrity?
Or perhaps not. Perhaps it would only lead to more bullshit.
LAWYER, n. One skilled in circumvention of the law. -- Ambrose Bierce
Ergo, if you are not a corporate lawyer, you've missed your calling.
If you want to discuss All of this bullshit, tens of thousands of words of it, that could have been avoided if ergo had answered these few simple questions as best he could , please start a new topic or risk an "official warning' from SFN staff--this is not a threat, but a friendly reminder of actions known to be taken when members post off-topic.
This reminder will not be repeated regarding the above bolded topic so as not to be confused with an off-topic discussion about not having off-topic discussions.
 
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Dave W.
Info Junkie
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Posted - 11/10/2006 : 13:05:56 [Permalink]
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quote:
Originally posted by ergo123
If you want to discuss the appropriate use of new topic threads and/or whether I took or should have taken your advice on starting a new topic, please start a new topic or risk an "official warning' from SFN staff--this is not a threat, but a friendly reminder of actions known to be taken when members post off-topic.
You are completely incorrect that your warning was given because you were posting something "off topic," ergo, and you know it, because you've posted a lot of things that were technically off-topic, and never got warned for them. Posting this bogus "reminder" several times in a row regarding claims of yours that you'd rather not discuss anymore looks like a classic example of what you're talking about over here, and/or you're just being petulant.
Now, as Dude asked, are you denying that you said that the NIST report fails to take gravity into account? |
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ergo123
BANNED
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Posted - 11/10/2006 : 13:51:16 [Permalink]
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quote:
Originally posted by Dave W.
quote:
Originally posted by ergo123
If you want to discuss the appropriate use of new topic threads and/or whether I took or should have taken your advice on starting a new topic, please start a new topic or risk an "official warning' from SFN staff--this is not a threat, but a friendly reminder of actions known to be taken when members post off-topic.
You are completely incorrect that your warning was given because you were posting something "off topic," ergo, and you know it, because you've posted a lot of things that were technically off-topic, and never got warned for them. Posting this bogus "reminder" several times in a row regarding claims of yours that you'd rather not discuss anymore looks like a classic example of what you're talking about over here, and/or you're just being petulant.
Now, as Dude asked, are you denying that you said that the NIST report fails to take gravity into account?
Well now I'm really confused.
I told kil that you "officially warned" me because I mentioned one of the "banned 3" thinkers. Because while you never came out and told me what I was being warned about, you said it wasn't for being off topic.
But kil suggested it was for being off topic--and that I should start new topics when responding to something that wasn't on-topic--hence my warning. And for the record, I am hestiant to even post this under this thread as it is off-topic--but please refer to your quote above again stating that I wasn't warned for being off-topic. BTW: I still find it odd that you won't just come right out and say why I was "officially warned"...
And to be on the safe side, until I hear from the lord of the playground for a ruling, I encourage any off-topic questions be posed as new topics. As you pointed out to me earlier, davey, that in no way ends the discussion of those topics. So I'm not sure why you suggest otherwise above.
And as far as being petulant goes, I'm not the one with the "don't piss off dave" edicts... |
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Kil
Evil Skeptic
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Posted - 11/10/2006 : 17:33:12 [Permalink]
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The warning was given to you ergo because you made an unjustified accusation directed at one of our staff.
Starting a thread to discuss that which you have been warned not to discuss, specifically the psychology behind the thinking of any SFN members in a thread about a 9/11 conspiracy was suggested as a solution for you since you keep bringing it up.
I went back through the thread and all of this seems pretty clear to me. However, I am sorry if I wasn't clear enough.
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Uncertainty may make you uncomfortable. Certainty makes you ridiculous.
Why not question something for a change?
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ergo123
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Posted - 11/10/2006 : 17:39:44 [Permalink]
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Kil
Evil Skeptic
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 Posted - 11/10/2006 : 17:55:35 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by ergo123
And what was the unjustified accusation?
You know what? Bite me... |
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ergo123
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Posted - 11/10/2006 : 20:03:02 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by Kil
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Originally posted by ergo123
And what was the unjustified accusation?
You know what? Bite me...
How mature. The reason I asked was because when you said "correct me if I'm wrong..." I did correct you--because you were wrong. I know it is hard for you to see, let alone admit that, but it is true. |
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furshur
SFN Regular
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Posted - 11/10/2006 : 21:43:36 [Permalink]
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Ergy your theory is without merit (because there is no evidence) and you are a dick head (on this you have provided abundant evidence).
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ergo123
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810 Posts |
Posted - 11/12/2006 : 08:16:29 [Permalink]
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Dave: You have commented more than once that you do not believe the NIST report to be true.
What evidence do you have that it is not true?
And what do you believe caused the towers to collapse? |
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Dude
SFN Die Hard
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Posted - 11/12/2006 : 09:50:28 [Permalink]
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ergo(liar)123:
Lets get back to the fact that you have lied about the NIST report. Or do you deny that you said the NIST report didn't account for gravity?
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Ignorance is preferable to error; and he is less remote from the truth who believes nothing, than he who believes what is wrong.
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"god :: the last refuge of a man with no answers and no argument." - G. Carlin
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Dave W.
Info Junkie
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Posted - 11/12/2006 : 10:07:18 [Permalink]
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quote:
Originally posted by ergo123
Dave: You have commented more than once that you do not believe the NIST report to be true.
What evidence do you have that it is not true?
I find it interesting that you mistake my denials of your assertion that I believe the NIST report for me believing it is "not true." Such a dichotomy depends upon unscientific black-and-white thinking.
All it takes to know (not 'believe') that the NIST report doesn't represent a completely accurate ('true') depiction of events is the authors' frequent referrals to what they couldn't possibly know. On the other hand, given the obvious care that went into the creation of the 43 volumes, it's reasonable to conclude that the report is closer to "the truth" than any other theory currently in the marketplace of ideas. Such is true of any forensic or historical theory currently enjoying consensus, including (but not limited to) Lambda-CDM, common descent, planetary formation and plate tectonics.quote:
And what do you believe caused the towers to collapse?
How are my thoughts relevant to your intention to prove that the NIST report "is impossible?" |
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ergo123
BANNED
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810 Posts |
Posted - 11/12/2006 : 13:06:50 [Permalink]
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quote:
Originally posted by Dave W.
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Originally posted by ergo123
Dave: You have commented more than once that you do not believe the NIST report to be true.
What evidence do you have that it is not true?
I find it interesting that you mistake my denials of your assertion that I believe the NIST report for me believing it is "not true." Such a dichotomy depends upon unscientific black-and-white thinking.
All it takes to know (not 'believe') that the NIST report doesn't represent a completely accurate ('true') depiction of events is the authors' frequent referrals to what they couldn't possibly know. On the other hand, given the obvious care that went into the creation of the 43 volumes, it's reasonable to conclude that the report is closer to "the truth" than any other theory currently in the marketplace of ideas. Such is true of any forensic or historical theory currently enjoying consensus, including (but not limited to) Lambda-CDM, common descent, planetary formation and plate tectonics.quote:
And what do you believe caused the towers to collapse?
How are my thoughts relevant to your intention to prove that the NIST report "is impossible?"
I don't know that they are, dave--i'm just interested in what you think. Why are you so afraid (or otherwise reluctant/unwilling) to share? |
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Dr. Mabuse
Septic Fiend
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Posted - 11/12/2006 : 14:13:18 [Permalink]
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Dr. Mabuse - "When the going gets tough, the tough get Duct-tape..."
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filthy
SFN Die Hard
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14408 Posts |
 Posted - 11/12/2006 : 15:20:45 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by Dr. Mabuse
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"What luck for rulers that men do not think." -- Adolf Hitler (1889 - 1945)
"If only we could impeach on the basis of criminal stupidity, 90% of the Rethuglicans and half of the Democrats would be thrown out of office." ~~ P.Z. Myres
"The default position of human nature is to punch the other guy in the face and take his stuff." ~~ Dude
Brother Boot Knife of Warm Humanitarianism,
and Crypto-Communist!
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What did cause the Towers to collapse?
