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ergo123
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Posted - 11/12/2006 :  18:30:16   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send ergo123 a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Cat got your tongue davey?

No witty quotes. I think for myself.
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Dave W.
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Posted - 11/12/2006 :  20:37:16   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Dave W.'s Homepage Send Dave W. a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by ergo123

I don't know that they are, dave--i'm just interested in what you think. Why are you so afraid (or otherwise reluctant/unwilling) to share?
I gave you my answer - you even quoted it (though you didn't respond to it).
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Cat got your tongue davey?
I had more important things to do today than to sit by my keyboard and wait for your non-reply to the meat of my post, but apparently it was a slow day for you, Stevie. I hope you at least got a few games of solitaire in during your several-hour vigil for me.

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ergo123
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Posted - 11/12/2006 :  21:37:27   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send ergo123 a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Dave W.

quote:
Originally posted by ergo123

I don't know that they are, dave--i'm just interested in what you think. Why are you so afraid (or otherwise reluctant/unwilling) to share?
I gave you my answer - you even quoted it (though you didn't respond to it).


That's what you say, but you provide no evidence that you have done so...



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Dave W.
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Posted - 11/12/2006 :  21:57:39   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Dave W.'s Homepage Send Dave W. a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by ergo123

That's what you say, but you provide no evidence that you have done so...
You provide no evidence that I have provided no evidence. Wow, that is a really useful way of terminating discussion you've got there, Stevie. You just refuse to believe that a person (including yourself) has said what they've already said, and demand evidence. What would constitute valid evidence that I already told you what I think, anyway? Surely linking back to the post wherein I gave you my answer wouldn't be good enough simply because you already quoted my answer and it wasn't good enough "evidence" for you the first time around. Why would repeating it be "evidence" for you now? What a strange double-standard you have.

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ergo123
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Posted - 11/12/2006 :  23:08:00   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send ergo123 a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Dave W.

quote:
Originally posted by ergo123

That's what you say, but you provide no evidence that you have done so...
You provide no evidence that I have provided no evidence. Wow, that is a really useful way of terminating discussion you've got there, Stevie. You just refuse to believe that a person (including yourself) has said what they've already said, and demand evidence. What would constitute valid evidence that I already told you what I think, anyway? Surely linking back to the post wherein I gave you my answer wouldn't be good enough...


Sure it would davey. And my frequent request for evidence is something I picked up on this skeptics forum I participate in. Everyone there is always asking for evidence--it seems like a good way to establish facts.



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Starman
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Posted - 11/13/2006 :  01:23:12   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Starman a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by ergo123

Everyone there is always asking for evidence--it seems like a good way to establish facts.
You still don't understand this do you?
If you claim to have had cereal this morning, nobody will demand evidence of this, even though you do lack credibility.

But if anyone claims that 9/11 were a big conspiracy by an US organization, planting explosives and orchestrating/faking the hijackings, they need to present some really good evidence.

So far (5 years and counting) there have been none.

All these threads have been about this kook fantasy of yours. You can dodge demands of evidence and nitpick comments and replies you get, but nothing of that is ever going to get you any credibility or respect here.

If you are happy with being regarded as a pathetic loser, please go on!
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ergo123
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Posted - 11/13/2006 :  09:29:11   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send ergo123 a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Starman

quote:
Originally posted by ergo123

Everyone there is always asking for evidence--it seems like a good way to establish facts.
You still don't understand this do you?
If you claim to have had cereal this morning, nobody will demand evidence of this, even though you do lack credibility.


Well, starman, that's what I would expect to happen here, but many here seem to use "where's your evidence" as a means of stalling a discussion. Dave is a prime example. When he gets backed into a corner he goes into "where's your evidence" mode and, simultaneously, refuses to provide evidence of his claims. (And just watch, he'll ask for evidence of his behavior even though it is all over these threads. In fact, read over some of the really long threads on this site and you will see this exact pattern replayed over and over!)

quote:
But if anyone claims that 9/11 were a big conspiracy by an US organization, planting explosives and orchestrating/faking the hijackings, they need to present some really good evidence.


And this is your recurring theme--failing to acknowledge the comments of posters you disagree with. I have told you several times that I am not claiming that 9/11 was a US conspiracy. But you continue to raise that false issue. The only claims I've made here reference the fact that the official stories for 9/11 are not based on evidence--because the evidence was hauled away or contaminated before any of the investigations started.

quote:
All these threads have been about this kook fantasy of yours.


No, they've been about the kooky official story.


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prettywoman
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Posted - 02/09/2007 :  14:05:07   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send prettywoman a Private Message  Reply with Quote
http://youtube.com/watch?v=CUjaLQDJdMc&mode=related&search=

After 24 hours

http://youtube.com/watch?v=_ywScL2dJKM&mode=related&search=

NO COMMENT
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Dr. Mabuse
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Posted - 02/09/2007 :  15:24:47   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Send Dr. Mabuse an ICQ Message Send Dr. Mabuse a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by prettywoman

http://youtube.com/watch?v=CUjaLQDJdMc&mode=related&search=

After 24 hours

http://youtube.com/watch?v=_ywScL2dJKM&mode=related&search=

NO COMMENT


Then let me comment...

First video: There is a clear diffrerence in the location of where the fire is between the tower in the video and WTC.

Second video: The remains clearly shows the skeleton structure of the building, and it is of a totally different construction compared to WTC.

So, what was the point of posting it?

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Dr. Mabuse
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Posted - 02/09/2007 :  15:36:18   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Send Dr. Mabuse an ICQ Message Send Dr. Mabuse a Private Message  Reply with Quote
By the way, here's a video that clearly shows that the fall started by a slow inward collapse of the perimiter support.
Video
Of course, this is WTC-2 but the mechanism is the same.

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Ghost_Skeptic
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Posted - 02/10/2007 :  00:17:54   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Ghost_Skeptic a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Also, I doubt that the fire that left the structure standing was fed by jet fuel.

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prettywoman
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Posted - 02/10/2007 :  09:14:40   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send prettywoman a Private Message  Reply with Quote
http://youtube.com/watch?v=76AkcimaZjA&mode=related&search=

Debris fall down vertically.

http://www.metacafe.com/watch/297731/wtc_2_corner_column_fails/

Debris fall down horizontally, against gravity forces

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R.Wreck
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Posted - 02/10/2007 :  09:45:33   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send R.Wreck a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by prettywoman

http://youtube.com/watch?v=76AkcimaZjA&mode=related&search=

Debris fall down vertically.

http://www.metacafe.com/watch/297731/wtc_2_corner_column_fails/

Debris fall down horizontally, against gravity forces





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Kil
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Posted - 02/10/2007 :  10:16:08   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Kil's Homepage  Send Kil an AOL message  Send Kil a Yahoo! Message Send Kil a Private Message  Reply with Quote
prettywoman,

The first clip is meaningless...

The second clip actually shows that the building came down the way most of us think it did. In fact, it's a smoking gun that pretty much destroys the controlled demolition theory. Take a closer look and you will see a main support simply buckle in a way that no explosion could account for.

Also, please don't just post links. We have all seen those clips before.
If you think you have a case, state it.

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Why not question something for a change?

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prettywoman
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Posted - 02/10/2007 :  13:10:00   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send prettywoman a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Kil

prettywoman,
...
Take a closer look and you will see a main support simply buckle in a way that no explosion could account for...





If you think this way, your head has a lot of shit instead of the brain.

Edited by - prettywoman on 02/10/2007 13:10:59
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