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Vegeta
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Posted - 03/19/2007 :  08:34:38  Show Profile Send Vegeta a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Mathemagicians have mapped the 248 dimensioned E8 structure, a member of the Lie group which describes symmetrical objects.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/6466129.stm

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/E8_(mathematics)

Whooosh! that went mostly over my head, what I did get was that it is important to string theory, and may assist in unification theory.

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Posted - 03/19/2007 :  12:16:26   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send BigPapaSmurf a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Just as soon as someone explains to me the nature of the fifth dimention, i'll be one step closer to finding out WTF this is supposed to mean.

Now if only our "specialists" would be more creative and come up with something so complicated that it cant be properly dissected by us, it would save us a lot of time.

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leoofno
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Posted - 03/19/2007 :  12:25:49   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send leoofno a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by BigPapaSmurf

Just as soon as someone explains to me the nature of the fifth dimention, i'll be one step closer to finding out WTF this is supposed to mean.

Now if only our "specialists" would be more creative and come up with something so complicated that it cant be properly dissected by us, it would save us a lot of time.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Fifth_Dimension

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Ricky
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Posted - 03/19/2007 :  16:13:53   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Send Ricky an AOL message Send Ricky a Private Message  Reply with Quote
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Just as soon as someone explains to me the nature of the fifth dimention


Dimension does not typically mean things such as time and space in math. It has many meanings. In linear algebra, dimension means how many elements of a vector space take to represent it. One you may be familiar with is R^3, vectors of:

(x, y z) where x, y, and z are real numbers.

This has a basis of {(1, 0, 0), (0, 1, 0), (0, 0, 1)} which means that if I take any three real numbers a1, a2, a3:

a1*(1, 0, 0) + a2*(0, 1, 0) + a3*(0, 0, 1)

I can form any vector in R^3. Since there are 3 vectors in the basis, we call this dimension 3. Note how you can take x, y, and z to mean spacial coordinates, though you don't necessarily have to.

I know Lie groups have to do with manifolds, which in turn have to do with vector spaces, so I believe there is a connection between this dimension and the dimension of a Lie group, but I do not yet understand enough of topology to know what that connection is.

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