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beskeptigal
SFN Die Hard
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 Posted - 04/30/2007 : 17:32:51 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by marfknox
bgal wrote: quote:
I think those of you who believe Cho must have gotten in to VA tech by means other than actually being qualified, are wrong.
Just for the record, saying that VA Tech's admissions process seem to be at odds with its stated admission goals is not the same as saying that Cho got in without being qualified. I don't think anyone who gets in isn't qualified. But I imagine a huge number of very qualified people don't get in, and how the decisions are actually made does not seem to match up with the stated goals.
How is the process at odds with the stated goals just because a reporter made an assumption about supposed extra points for being in a minority? What I'm saying, (and I tried to use a citation that avoided those assumptions but I guess I wasn't careful enough), is we only know what the qualifications were. We don't know what was on Cho's application, nor how he was chosen.
We do know about 1 out of every 4 applicants gets in. Some of those might be people who apply at more than one school and choose not to go if accepted because they were also accepted elsewhere. But the number of applicants per slots still indicates the school is very competitive. The average grades of applicants also makes it appear to be a very competitive school.
I'm trying to understand why so many assumptions are being made either that Cho was carelessly let in or got in with special assistance. Schizophrenia is often an adult onset disease. Whatever made Cho an odd child, it wasn't schizophrenia. We don't know what he was like when he applied to the university.
So if you weren't assuming anything about Cho, what is it that makes you think the admission process was at odds with the stated goals? Just the reporter's assumption? Or did I miss something else?
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Dave W.
Info Junkie
USA
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Posted - 04/30/2007 : 17:54:48 [Permalink]
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quote:
Originally posted by beskeptigal
Or did I miss something else?
Yes, you're still missing VA Tech's own statements about building a community of students, who are engaged with the world and active in outreach, which is more-or-less impossible if all you pay attention to is grades and test scores. The point is not that Cho was let in carelessly, it's that their admission standards appear to disregard the college's own mission.
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the_ignored
SFN Addict
2562 Posts |
Posted - 05/01/2007 : 11:09:43 [Permalink]
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| As usual, AIG has come up with their own spin on this, more detailed than the link I posted on the first page of this topic; and as usual, they blame evolution (again)...though the people at Internet Infidels give them a good smacking down. |
>From: enuffenuff@fastmail.fm
(excerpt follows):
> I'm looking to teach these two bastards a lesson they'll never forget.
> Personal visit by mates of mine. No violence, just a wee little chat.
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> **** has also committed more crimes than you can count with his
> incitement of hatred against a religion. That law came in about 2007
> much to ****'s ignorance. That is fact and his writing will become well
> know as well as him becoming a publicly known icon of hatred.
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> Good luck with that fuckwit. And Reynold, fucking run, and don't stop.
> Disappear would be best as it was you who dared to attack me on my
> illness knowing nothing of the cause. You disgust me and you are top of
> the list boy. Again, no violence. Just regular reminders of who's there
> and visits to see you are behaving. Nothing scary in reality. But I'd
> still disappear if I was you.
What brought that on? this. Original posting here.
Another example of this guy's lunacy here. |
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perrodetokio
Skeptic Friend
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Posted - 05/10/2007 : 14:13:59 [Permalink]
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from AIG:
"Those who truly desire to follow Christ know that vengeance is the Lord'sit is not our place to decide who lives and who dies."
Me: Well, why then the religious right is not set on banning the death penalty? Maybe they are and since I donīt live in the US I am not aware of it?
from AIG:
"...if we are told by the Bible that we are no better than anyone else, why would we have any feeling of superiority? How could we judge? "
Me: I donīt know. You tell me.
And the rest of the BS argument from AIG is not worth reproducing.
I donīt get it. They talk about moral relativism and its danger, they say the bible has the answers. However, thereīs no way you can take (all of) the bible literally. They donīt. So how come they can tell other people whatīs to be taken literally and whatīs not. And even if they donīt want to, theyīre interpreting parts of the bible, A HUMAN BEIGN INTERPRETING THE WORD OF GOD! HERETICS!
I would respect them more if they would act according to the beliefs they preach, but they donīt, so... there!
Cheers!
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"Yes I have a belief in a creator/God but do not know that he exists." Bill Scott
"They are still mosquitoes! They did not turn into whales or lizards or anything else. They are still mosquitoes!..." Bill Scott
"We should have millions of missing links or transition fossils showing a fish turning into a philosopher..." Bill Scott |
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Dude
SFN Die Hard
USA
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Posted - 05/10/2007 : 14:49:20 [Permalink]
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Me: Well, why then the religious right is not set on banning the death penalty? Maybe they are and since I donīt live in the US I am not aware of it?
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The religious right is rabidly, and overwhelmingly, in favor of the death penalty. Somehow that fits right into their culture of life thing.
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Ignorance is preferable to error; and he is less remote from the truth who believes nothing, than he who believes what is wrong.
-- Thomas Jefferson
"god :: the last refuge of a man with no answers and no argument." - G. Carlin
Hope, n.
The handmaiden of desperation; the opiate of despair; the illegible signpost on the road to perdition. ~~ da filth |
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perrodetokio
Skeptic Friend
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Posted - 05/10/2007 : 16:24:17 [Permalink]
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go figure!
These people are either veeeeeeery confused or manipulative bastards.
Either way, theyīre dangerous. |
"Yes I have a belief in a creator/God but do not know that he exists." Bill Scott
"They are still mosquitoes! They did not turn into whales or lizards or anything else. They are still mosquitoes!..." Bill Scott
"We should have millions of missing links or transition fossils showing a fish turning into a philosopher..." Bill Scott |
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Baghdad Tech Massacre
