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Dude
SFN Die Hard
USA
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 Posted - 04/23/2007 : 15:03:04
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This story was totally burried by the V-Tech shootings...
http://www.miamiherald.com/578/story/81850.html
So... if we can't train them to take over the things we are doing with our military in Iraq.... We just get to keep our troops there forever?
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HalfMooner
Dingaling
Philippines
15831 Posts |
Posted - 04/24/2007 : 01:37:16 [Permalink]
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It seems a little problem developed during our attempt to train the Iraqi Army: We ended up training and arming sectarian insurgents instead. Other than that, the Bush plan worked perfectly.
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Dude
SFN Die Hard
USA
6891 Posts |
Posted - 04/24/2007 : 22:06:16 [Permalink]
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It seems a little problem developed during our attempt to train the Iraqi Army: We ended up training and arming sectarian insurgents instead. Other than that, the Bush plan worked perfectly.
Yeah, I said it a long time ago, but its worth repeating.
Any plan to train Iraqi troops should have involved an out of country location, like say... Fort Benning GA or Fort Bragg NC.
We should have trained a cadre of trainers. Set up an additional site outside of Iraq, perhaps in the UAE, and helped the cadre of trainers train up the first 10,000 troops.
Put all the new potential trainees through some screening process that would weed out the more crazy fundamentalists and helped make sure the recruit base was people interested in Iraq, not their particular religious sect.
Then, after the protocols are well established, ramp up the scale of the training process.
It should have been obvious to almost everyone in the decision making process that trying to train people inside Iraq would only end up a fiasco with us training insurgents.
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Ignorance is preferable to error; and he is less remote from the truth who believes nothing, than he who believes what is wrong.
-- Thomas Jefferson
"god :: the last refuge of a man with no answers and no argument." - G. Carlin
Hope, n.
The handmaiden of desperation; the opiate of despair; the illegible signpost on the road to perdition. ~~ da filth |
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HalfMooner
Dingaling
Philippines
15831 Posts |
Posted - 04/25/2007 : 02:53:05 [Permalink]
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And it just may be that there aren't enough potential Iraqi soldiers who are not strongly sectarian to make up an Army. Plus, screening might not actually work. Training outside Iraq might not. Who screens the screeners? I doubt there are more than a handful of Americans who even know the right questions to ask. But all these measures should at least have been tried.
I was reading today somewhere Pat Robertson's account of his meeting with Bush before the invasion. Robertson noted that Bush was very "excited" about the upcoming war. When Robertson advised Bush to prepare the American people for casualties, Bush replied, "There won't be any."
When Pat Robertson (Pat Robertson!) comes off sounding wiser than anyone else, you really gotta wonder how big an idiot that someone else is.
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No more training of Iraqi troops
