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j911ob
Skeptic Friend
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 Posted - 05/08/2007 : 11:25:27 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by Dave W.
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Originally posted by j911ob
DaveW please provide my quote where I said they did not offer reasons. I said no such thing.
If I said that you said it, I was being careless. I was actually trying to be careful to say that you suggested or implied it.
But that's neither here nor there. Let's go back to your bald assertions that I automatically trust the FBI and am unskeptical about them.
No, lets not deflect attention from your blatant misrepresentations of me. If you are going to try and attribute statements to me that I didnt make then you will have your bluff called every time. |
"Any pressurized can exposed to heat will explode like a grenade. Even a sealed bag of potato chips, if not melted by direct flame, can 'pop' with quite a report." - Kookbreaker at JREF, responding to reports of explosions in the towers. |
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j911ob
Skeptic Friend
223 Posts |
Posted - 05/08/2007 : 11:26:51 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by Kil
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j911ob said here::
The forum has now threatened me that if i start any more threads there I will be banned. I started 2 threads about 2 different subjects. They are worse than randi's mob!
That's a lie. I said “You guys have started enough threads on 9/11 to hold us for a while.” That would be the three of you who decided to set us straight on 9/11 and started 5 threads on the subject. I did not single you out. If that little misrepresentation of my warning is indicative of your over all honesty, well, what can I surmise? You sir, are indeed a liar.
As for being worse than the Randi site, you are probably right about that in terms of being your worst nightmare. We are far more focused even if we are “clowns” who need a good dismantling…
Did you not say that if I continued to start threads I would be banned? I have started 2 threads. |
"Any pressurized can exposed to heat will explode like a grenade. Even a sealed bag of potato chips, if not melted by direct flame, can 'pop' with quite a report." - Kookbreaker at JREF, responding to reports of explosions in the towers. |
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Kil
Evil Skeptic
USA
13477 Posts |
Posted - 05/08/2007 : 11:34:16 [Permalink]
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Do you have a reading comprehension problem? I said you guys. Does include you? Yes, but you all came together for one purpose. So you get lumped in. Too bad. Five threads is enough for now.
I was very clear in my warning. What you presented about that warning on your site was a lie. Simple as that. |
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Dave W.
Info Junkie
USA
26022 Posts |
Posted - 05/08/2007 : 11:35:41 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by j911ob
No, lets not deflect attention from your blatant misrepresentations of me. If you are going to try and attribute statements to me that I didnt make then you will have your bluff called every time.
After re-reading my posts, the fact is that I never attributed any statements to you, but was instead successfully careful about what I said. I never attributed any statements to you that you didn't make, so there is no bluff for you to call.
So now, let's get on to your misrepresentation of me, since you've said that I trust the FBI "automatically." Fair's fair. |
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j911ob
Skeptic Friend
223 Posts |
Posted - 05/08/2007 : 11:38:03 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by Kil
Do you have a reading comprehension problem? I said you guys. Does include you? Yes, but you all came together for one purpose. So you get lumped in. Too bad. Five threads is enough for now.
I was very clear in my warning. What you presented about that warning on your site was a lie. Simple as that.
I disagree. I may be part of the you guys but I am an individual and I did not come here as part of a conspiracy. If you look at the loose change thread, I was the first to join here after jackchit, and he came here for reasons only known to him. I have started 2 threads and am told not to start more. I told the truth. |
"Any pressurized can exposed to heat will explode like a grenade. Even a sealed bag of potato chips, if not melted by direct flame, can 'pop' with quite a report." - Kookbreaker at JREF, responding to reports of explosions in the towers. |
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j911ob
Skeptic Friend
223 Posts |
Posted - 05/08/2007 : 11:40:46 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by Dave W.
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Originally posted by j911ob
No, lets not deflect attention from your blatant misrepresentations of me. If you are going to try and attribute statements to me that I didnt make then you will have your bluff called every time.
After re-reading my posts, the fact is that I never attributed any statements to you, but was instead successfully careful about what I said. I never attributed any statements to you that you didn't make, so there is no bluff for you to call.
So now, let's get on to your misrepresentation of me, since you've said that I trust the FBI "automatically." Fair's fair.
Thats the impression I get. Im entitled to that opinion. |
"Any pressurized can exposed to heat will explode like a grenade. Even a sealed bag of potato chips, if not melted by direct flame, can 'pop' with quite a report." - Kookbreaker at JREF, responding to reports of explosions in the towers. |
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Kil
Evil Skeptic
USA
13477 Posts |
Posted - 05/08/2007 : 11:45:33 [Permalink]
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j911ob:
I told the truth.
The truth would have been to quote the actual warning I made and not misrepresent it by leaving out the most important part of the warning. You took what I said and changed the context. And that, my friend, is a way of lying.
Your “truth” could use some work…
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j911ob
Skeptic Friend
223 Posts |
Posted - 05/08/2007 : 11:50:09 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by Kil
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j911ob:
I told the truth.
The truth would have been to quote the actual warning I made and not misrepresent it by leaving out the most important part of the warning. You took what I said and changed the context. And that, my friend, is a way of lying.
Your “truth” could use some work…
No, lying is deliberately saying something you know to be false. I still believe that what I said is true.
Its all by the by anyway, I wont start anymore threads. |
"Any pressurized can exposed to heat will explode like a grenade. Even a sealed bag of potato chips, if not melted by direct flame, can 'pop' with quite a report." - Kookbreaker at JREF, responding to reports of explosions in the towers. |
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Cuneiformist
The Imperfectionist
USA
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Posted - 05/08/2007 : 11:51:17 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by j911ob
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Originally posted by Kil
Do you have a reading comprehension problem? I said you guys. Does include you? Yes, but you all came together for one purpose. So you get lumped in. Too bad. Five threads is enough for now.
I was very clear in my warning. What you presented about that warning on your site was a lie. Simple as that.
I disagree. I may be part of the you guys but I am an individual and I did not come here as part of a conspiracy. If you look at the loose change thread, I was the first to join here after jackchit, and he came here for reasons only known to him. I have started 2 threads and am told not to start more. I told the truth.
The fact is that there are plenty of open threads with which to discuss the events of 9/11. Starting new ones only clutters the forums and makes it difficult to follow any particular argument. In any event, no one is censoring you, as you're free to, among the many open 9/11 threads, post your comments, arguments, thoughts, etc.
Moreover, if you wanted to open a new thread on another topic-- e.g. evolution, or UFOs or the best science fiction films of the last 25 years, you are free to do so. (And if that wasn't specifically spelled out in Kil's notice, it is almost certainly nevertheless the case; you're free to ask for clarification.) |
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Dave W.
Info Junkie
USA
26022 Posts |
Posted - 05/08/2007 : 11:56:22 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by j911ob
Thats the impression I get. Im entitled to that opinion.
And such quick jumping to conclusions on your part makes you unreasonable. |
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j911ob
Skeptic Friend
223 Posts |
Posted - 05/08/2007 : 12:48:22 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by Dave W.
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Originally posted by j911ob
Thats the impression I get. Im entitled to that opinion.
And such quick jumping to conclusions on your part makes you unreasonable.
Oh and I suppose the person here who concluded I am psychotic by reading some postings on an internet forum is reasonable?
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"Any pressurized can exposed to heat will explode like a grenade. Even a sealed bag of potato chips, if not melted by direct flame, can 'pop' with quite a report." - Kookbreaker at JREF, responding to reports of explosions in the towers. |
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Kil
Evil Skeptic
USA
13477 Posts |
 Posted - 05/08/2007 : 12:49:30 [Permalink]
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j911ob:
No, lying is deliberately saying something you know to be false. I still believe that what I said is true.
Okay, so you get to change the context, take out some important words, and call it the truth. Interesting take…
Makes me wonder where else you do that when you debate.
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j911ob:
Its all by the by anyway, I wont start anymore threads.
I have a suggestion. Use your well-honed skill at homing in on what should be obvious to everyone, and apply it to my warning. Go back and read it again. Did I really say that you could not start any more threads? That, by the way, was another misrepresentation of what you said I said in your report to your site.  |
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HalfMooner
Dingaling
Philippines
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Posted - 05/08/2007 : 13:01:03 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by j911ob
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Originally posted by Dave W.
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Originally posted by j911ob
Thats the impression I get. Im entitled to that opinion.
And such quick jumping to conclusions on your part makes you unreasonable.
Oh and I suppose the person here who concluded I am psychotic by reading some postings on an internet forum is reasonable?
Uh, Dave's not responsible for my ravings.
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j911ob
Skeptic Friend
223 Posts |
Posted - 05/08/2007 : 13:13:00 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by HalfMooner
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Originally posted by j911ob
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Originally posted by Dave W.
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Originally posted by j911ob
Thats the impression I get. Im entitled to that opinion.
And such quick jumping to conclusions on your part makes you unreasonable.
Oh and I suppose the person here who concluded I am psychotic by reading some postings on an internet forum is reasonable?
Uh, Dave's not responsible for my ravings.
Im not sure you are either. |
"Any pressurized can exposed to heat will explode like a grenade. Even a sealed bag of potato chips, if not melted by direct flame, can 'pop' with quite a report." - Kookbreaker at JREF, responding to reports of explosions in the towers. |
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Dave W.
Info Junkie
USA
26022 Posts |
Posted - 05/08/2007 : 13:14:46 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by j911ob
Oh and I suppose the person here who concluded I am psychotic by reading some postings on an internet forum is reasonable?
Whether he's reasonable or not is irrelevant to the question at hand. Karl Rove would be jealous of your skills at misdirection, if he gave a damn about anonymous Internet conspiracy theorists. |
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A plane hit the pentagon.
