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j911ob
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223 Posts

Posted - 05/08/2007 :  13:18:32   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send j911ob a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Dave W.

quote:
Originally posted by j911ob

Oh and I suppose the person here who concluded I am psychotic by reading some postings on an internet forum is reasonable?
Whether he's reasonable or not is irrelevant to the question at hand. Karl Rove would be jealous of your skills at misdirection, if he gave a damn about anonymous Internet conspiracy theorists.



I would rather be that than a person who just denies things. We are talking about the murder of 3000 people. Denying that for the sake of it does not look good.

"Any pressurized can exposed to heat will explode like a grenade. Even a sealed bag of potato chips, if not melted by direct flame, can 'pop' with quite a report." - Kookbreaker at JREF, responding to reports of explosions in the towers.
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Dave W.
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USA
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Posted - 05/08/2007 :  13:22:18   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Dave W.'s Homepage Send Dave W. a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Good thing I haven't denied anything then, but instead am waiting for you and SilentKoala to present decent evidence in favor of the statements you've made. We're talking about the murder of 3,000 people, after all, and it wouldn't be at all proper to assign blame based on flimsy premises.

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j911ob
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223 Posts

Posted - 05/08/2007 :  13:24:51   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send j911ob a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Dave W.

Good thing I haven't denied anything then, but instead am waiting for you and SilentKoala to present decent evidence in favor of the statements you've made. We're talking about the murder of 3,000 people, after all, and it wouldn't be at all proper to assign blame based on flimsy premises.



Good point. You realise the FBI admits it has no hard evidence against Osama. Its a good job we didnt invade afghanistan on such flimsy evidence....oh wait...

"Any pressurized can exposed to heat will explode like a grenade. Even a sealed bag of potato chips, if not melted by direct flame, can 'pop' with quite a report." - Kookbreaker at JREF, responding to reports of explosions in the towers.
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Fripp
SFN Regular

USA
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Posted - 05/08/2007 :  13:25:32   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Fripp a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by j911ob

I would rather be that than a person who just denies things. We are talking about the murder of 3000 people. Denying that for the sake of it does not look good.



Boy, your logic is "questionable", to say it kindly.

We are quite aware that 3000 people were "murdered" that day.

That's not the question. The question is "how"? And, in my opinion, your "version" of "how" is feeble, to put it politely.

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j911ob
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Posted - 05/08/2007 :  13:26:43   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send j911ob a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Dave you do deny things. I have presented the transportation report that says the mural van existed yet everybody here denies it exists, simply based on their own argument from incredulity. Thats a logical fallacy even a psychotic CTer can spot.

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Kil
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USA
13477 Posts

Posted - 05/08/2007 :  13:38:13   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Kil's Homepage  Send Kil an AOL message  Send Kil a Yahoo! Message Send Kil a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
j911ob:
I have presented the transportation report that says the mural van existed yet everybody here denies it exists, simply based on their own argument from incredulity. Thats a logical fallacy even a psychotic CTer can spot.

As I recall, you presented two versions of the van story. And I can't find where anyone denied that it existed. Only that there were conflicting reports about it.

What is this “everybody” business? That would be hyperbolic language, now wouldn't it be?

Uncertainty may make you uncomfortable. Certainty makes you ridiculous.

Why not question something for a change?

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Dr. Mabuse
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Sweden
9688 Posts

Posted - 05/08/2007 :  13:48:09   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Send Dr. Mabuse an ICQ Message Send Dr. Mabuse a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by j911ob

Dave you do deny things. I have presented the transportation report that says the mural van existed yet everybody here denies it exists, simply based on their own argument from incredulity. Thats a logical fallacy even a psychotic CTer can spot.

You got it all backwards.

You claimed there was a mural van there.
We are skeptical of your claim, and ask for solid evidence. At that point, it's pretty rich of you to claim "everybody here denies it exiest" (which is patently false by the way). You never provided acceptable evidence that the van existed in the first place.
So our doubt of your story is not a logical fallacy, it's proper skepticism.

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Dave W.
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USA
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Posted - 05/08/2007 :  14:07:43   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Dave W.'s Homepage Send Dave W. a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by j911ob

Good point. You realise the FBI admits it has no hard evidence against Osama. Its a good job we didnt invade afghanistan on such flimsy evidence....oh wait...
And I never defended the administration's position, either. What they've done is also irrelevant to your misrepresentation of my positions.

Also:
quote:
Dave you do deny things. I have presented the transportation report that says the mural van existed yet everybody here denies it exists, simply based on their own argument from incredulity. Thats a logical fallacy even a psychotic CTer can spot.
Let's see... I posted that I was having trouble finding primary source material on that story, just as the person who posted the YouTube video did. For some reason, this means that I'm denying its existence? I'll take the Mineta report at face value.

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Dude
SFN Die Hard

USA
6891 Posts

Posted - 05/08/2007 :  14:18:17   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Dude a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Someone send me a PM when these lackwits want to actually talk about the alleged evidence for their conspiracy....


Ignorance is preferable to error; and he is less remote from the truth who believes nothing, than he who believes what is wrong.
-- Thomas Jefferson

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The handmaiden of desperation; the opiate of despair; the illegible signpost on the road to perdition. ~~ da filth
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JohnOAS
SFN Regular

Australia
800 Posts

Posted - 05/08/2007 :  19:44:05   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit JohnOAS's Homepage Send JohnOAS a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Dude

Someone send me a PM when these lackwits want to actually talk about the alleged evidence for their conspiracy....




It's OK, Dude, we'll use the usual secret message encoded into the public messages, as we normally do.

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John's just this guy, you know.
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