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Gorgo
SFN Die Hard
USA
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 Posted - 05/16/2007 : 06:13:05
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Chuck Norris is still my hero. Even though he's a terrible actor and I'm against everything that he stands for. And he's short.
Here's the latest from Chuck:
http://worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=55668
The other legal disgrace that occurred on the National Day of Prayer was that Congress passed what might become one of the most religiously restrictive pieces of legislation in history: H.R. 1592, "The Local Law Enforcement Hate Crimes Prevention Act." With Senate approval, this bill will expand the law against such hate crimes, allowing federal funds and other resources to assist local law enforcement to deter and punish acts of violence committed against an individual because of the victim's race, religion, gender identity, sexual orientation, etc.
While the bill purports to target crimes of brutality, not speech, it could very easily end up (even inadvertently) restricting First Amendment rights of Christians to speak freely against such anti-biblical practices as homosexuality and transvestitism. As Janet Folger, the author of "Criminalizing Christianity," has pointed out, "H.R. 1592 isn't about hate. It isn't about crime. It's about silencing our speech."
As with other laws of this type, once enacted, local justices could easily expand its interpretive enforcement to encompass a wider meaning than originally conceived. Once enforced, what would stop a clergy from being accused as an accessory to a hate crime, after he preached to his church on Sunday about the woes of same-sex marriage and discovered on Monday one of his congregants got in a fight with a homosexual co-worker as a result of a moral altercation? The fact is, if the hate-crime bill passes, pastors could easily become pulpit partners in crime.
I agree with Rev. Henry Jackson, who said the law would "mandate unequal protection under the law and will pave the way for criminalization of thoughts and religious beliefs contrary to politically correct ideas."
Hate-crime laws are not only a violation of our First Amendment rights to freedom of speech and religion, but a violation of the 10th Amendment's limitations on the power of federal government.
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Well, I'm not clear on why hate crime laws are necessary, but it's clear here that Chuck doesn't want his irrational hatred impeded in any way.
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I know the rent is in arrears
The dog has not been fed in years
It's even worse than it appears
But it's alright-
Jerry Garcia
Robert Hunter
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HalfMooner
Dingaling
Philippines
15831 Posts |
Posted - 05/16/2007 : 15:22:19 [Permalink]
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Norris paints a pretty picture of a slippery slope. "While the bill purports to target crimes of brutality, not speech, it could very easily end up (even inadvertently) restricting First Amendment rights of Christians to speak freely against such anti-biblical practices as homosexuality and transvestitism." (My emphasis.)
No, Chuck, not "very easily." The First Amendment still trumps Federal law, even Federal law as misinterpreted by an actor. Ol' Chucky will still be able to spew his hateful, ignorant, and bigoted "free speech," never fear. He'll be able to continue to incur the censure of tolerant and rational people, as well as those who simply hate his guts for his wooden acting.
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“Biology is just physics that has begun to smell bad.” —HalfMooner
Here's a link to Moonscape News, and one to its Archive. |
| Edited by - HalfMooner on 05/16/2007 15:23:47 |
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Dude
SFN Die Hard
USA
6891 Posts |
Posted - 05/16/2007 : 15:59:08 [Permalink]
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I can't find anywhere in the text of that bill a phrase that limits the speech of anyone.
It is illegal right now to tell someone to go kick another person's ass. That is a criminal act already.
No preacher is dumb enough to tell his flock of sheep to go beat people up. They know they would be arrested.
The bill just makes crimes against people, based on prejudice, have more penalty. Just like the ones for race already do.
If the law was ever misapplied (if it doesn't get the fat veto) it would be a pretty easy defense in court by any competent ACLU first ammendment lawyer.
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Ignorance is preferable to error; and he is less remote from the truth who believes nothing, than he who believes what is wrong.
-- Thomas Jefferson
"god :: the last refuge of a man with no answers and no argument." - G. Carlin
Hope, n.
The handmaiden of desperation; the opiate of despair; the illegible signpost on the road to perdition. ~~ da filth |
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Roddy
New Member
Panama
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Posted - 05/24/2007 : 12:03:37 [Permalink]
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It is illegal right now to tell someone to go kick another person's ass. That is a criminal act already.
Tell that to Chuck Norris. He makes a living out of kicking people's asses. |
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Dude
SFN Die Hard
USA
6891 Posts |
Posted - 05/24/2007 : 12:22:42 [Permalink]
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| Tell that to Chuck Norris. He makes a living out of kicking people's asses. |
You mean he makes a living pretending to kick other people's asses.
I've met Chuck (briefly, at some publicity event, years ago), he's a nice guy. He took time to sign autographs and talked to fans for quite a while.
If he has been a crazy conservative all this time, he's kept it to himself until lately.
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Ignorance is preferable to error; and he is less remote from the truth who believes nothing, than he who believes what is wrong.
-- Thomas Jefferson
"god :: the last refuge of a man with no answers and no argument." - G. Carlin
Hope, n.
The handmaiden of desperation; the opiate of despair; the illegible signpost on the road to perdition. ~~ da filth |
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