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Dave W.
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Posted - 03/26/2008 :  09:15:52   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Dave W.'s Homepage Send Dave W. a Private Message
Originally posted by filthy

No Dave. No, no, no! It couldn't possibly be that bad! I mean, shit, this thing is an embarrassment to all who were involved, from the producers down to the set's gophers.
That's the sad part: they're not embarrassed, they're proud of it.
If what I have just read is even close to descriptive, Expelled will be an utter flop easily comparable to Dover. There are simply not that many stupid people in the country. Are there?
No, there aren't, which is why the producers are bribing Christian schools and showing it to church groups for free, and begging these viewers to "spread the word" and get more butts into theaters on April 18th.

Of course, the award for stupidity must still go to the Discovery Institute which, while it seems it didn't have a hand in the making of the movie, is actively supporting the movie and its message that "the Designer" is God (an assertion that has been "officially" denied for years). All science so far!

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filthy
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Posted - 03/26/2008 :  17:33:34   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send filthy a Private Message
This is going to last forever, or so it seems. Dear Denyse has yet another post up that I won't bother to link because it's a whine that covers no new ground. It's also a handy link to her website where the main part of the whine can be found -- for anyone who cares.

It's getting a little dull & repetitious over there, really. I hope they'll come up with something imaginitive soon -- I mean imaginitive other than their entire premise.






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the_ignored
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Posted - 03/27/2008 :  04:10:34   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send the_ignored a Private Message
Well, guess who just got invited to a premiere in Hollywood for tomorrow?


>From: enuffenuff@fastmail.fm
(excerpt follows):
> I'm looking to teach these two bastards a lesson they'll never forget.
> Personal visit by mates of mine. No violence, just a wee little chat.
>
> **** has also committed more crimes than you can count with his
> incitement of hatred against a religion. That law came in about 2007
> much to ****'s ignorance. That is fact and his writing will become well
> know as well as him becoming a publicly known icon of hatred.
>
> Good luck with that fuckwit. And Reynold, fucking run, and don't stop.
> Disappear would be best as it was you who dared to attack me on my
> illness knowing nothing of the cause. You disgust me and you are top of
> the list boy. Again, no violence. Just regular reminders of who's there
> and visits to see you are behaving. Nothing scary in reality. But I'd
> still disappear if I was you.

What brought that on? this. Original posting here.

Another example of this guy's lunacy here.
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filthy
SFN Die Hard

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Posted - 03/27/2008 :  06:38:06   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send filthy a Private Message
Doesn't Ray's picture just give you an urge to punch him right in the mouth?

But isn't it counter productive for an organization that disclaims religion in their speculations to invite, and, one considers, seek the approval of rabid evangelicals? Oh, wait, they are no longer doing that lie, so I 'spose it's ok.

I'm looking forward to Ray's comments. I wonder if he'll swoon rapturously over it.




"What luck for rulers that men do not think." -- Adolf Hitler (1889 - 1945)

"If only we could impeach on the basis of criminal stupidity, 90% of the Rethuglicans and half of the Democrats would be thrown out of office." ~~ P.Z. Myres


"The default position of human nature is to punch the other guy in the face and take his stuff." ~~ Dude

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Dave W.
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Posted - 04/01/2008 :  11:26:40   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Dave W.'s Homepage Send Dave W. a Private Message
So I've been slacking off lately. In no particular order:

Julia Sweeney's blog.

PZ's posts:Cectic

Even more on Expelled in Tempe, from John Lynch.

Stein is right: Darwinism causes antisemitism, from John Wilkins.

Panda's Thumb posts:Expelled! The Movie Rip-off and the Event at Biola from Troy Britain.

Skeptic's Guide to the Universe podcast (see segment 3).

And don't miss out on the Expelled Exposed website, which has plans for lots of new content on April 15th.

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the_ignored
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Posted - 04/01/2008 :  12:10:24   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send the_ignored a Private Message
Dave, feel free to merge that Ray Comfort review of "Expelled" thread into here.


>From: enuffenuff@fastmail.fm
(excerpt follows):
> I'm looking to teach these two bastards a lesson they'll never forget.
> Personal visit by mates of mine. No violence, just a wee little chat.
>
> **** has also committed more crimes than you can count with his
> incitement of hatred against a religion. That law came in about 2007
> much to ****'s ignorance. That is fact and his writing will become well
> know as well as him becoming a publicly known icon of hatred.
>
> Good luck with that fuckwit. And Reynold, fucking run, and don't stop.
> Disappear would be best as it was you who dared to attack me on my
> illness knowing nothing of the cause. You disgust me and you are top of
> the list boy. Again, no violence. Just regular reminders of who's there
> and visits to see you are behaving. Nothing scary in reality. But I'd
> still disappear if I was you.

What brought that on? this. Original posting here.

Another example of this guy's lunacy here.
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Dave W.
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Posted - 04/01/2008 :  14:34:33   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Dave W.'s Homepage Send Dave W. a Private Message
Originally posted by the_ignored

Dave, feel free to merge that Ray Comfort review of "Expelled" thread into here.
I wish I could. Please don't take my note over there as a scolding.

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the_ignored
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Posted - 04/01/2008 :  15:27:53   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send the_ignored a Private Message
Nah, I just thought of it as a good idea.


>From: enuffenuff@fastmail.fm
(excerpt follows):
> I'm looking to teach these two bastards a lesson they'll never forget.
> Personal visit by mates of mine. No violence, just a wee little chat.
>
> **** has also committed more crimes than you can count with his
> incitement of hatred against a religion. That law came in about 2007
> much to ****'s ignorance. That is fact and his writing will become well
> know as well as him becoming a publicly known icon of hatred.
>
> Good luck with that fuckwit. And Reynold, fucking run, and don't stop.
> Disappear would be best as it was you who dared to attack me on my
> illness knowing nothing of the cause. You disgust me and you are top of
> the list boy. Again, no violence. Just regular reminders of who's there
> and visits to see you are behaving. Nothing scary in reality. But I'd
> still disappear if I was you.

What brought that on? this. Original posting here.

Another example of this guy's lunacy here.
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Dave W.
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Posted - 04/06/2008 :  17:42:24   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Dave W.'s Homepage Send Dave W. a Private Message
New Anti-Evolution Film Stirs Controversy.

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Kil
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Posted - 04/06/2008 :  18:33:44   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Kil's Homepage  Send Kil an AOL message  Send Kil a Yahoo! Message Send Kil a Private Message
Originally posted by Dave W.

New Anti-Evolution Film Stirs Controversy.
The writer misspelled Shermer's name....

Uncertainty may make you uncomfortable. Certainty makes you ridiculous.

Why not question something for a change?

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filthy
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Posted - 04/07/2008 :  04:59:06   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send filthy a Private Message
Bah! On one side of the table there is scientific theory supported by reams of confirmed fact, and on the other sits hopeful speculations and the equivalent of a hop-head's pipe dreams. Some controversy.

I wonder if any of those guys play poker. If not, then they should start. It would teach them something about speculating. I will help.....




"What luck for rulers that men do not think." -- Adolf Hitler (1889 - 1945)

"If only we could impeach on the basis of criminal stupidity, 90% of the Rethuglicans and half of the Democrats would be thrown out of office." ~~ P.Z. Myres


"The default position of human nature is to punch the other guy in the face and take his stuff." ~~ Dude

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moakley
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Posted - 04/07/2008 :  17:59:12   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send moakley a Private Message
At this time there are two theaters in the Charlotte area that will be showing Expelled: No Intelligence Required. One is less that 5 miles from my home, but more than 600 miles from where I'll be.

Life is good

Philosophy is questions that may never be answered. Religion is answers that may never be questioned. -Anonymous
Edited by - moakley on 04/07/2008 18:00:02
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Dave W.
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Posted - 04/08/2008 :  12:05:36   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Dave W.'s Homepage Send Dave W. a Private Message
Pick up some "truth tickets" if you feel so inclined.

Edited to add that PZ is calling them "stupid offsets," like "carbon offsets."

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Dave W.
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Posted - 04/08/2008 :  14:03:34   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Dave W.'s Homepage Send Dave W. a Private Message
From Marketplace last Friday: "Is film's marketing intelligently designed?"

Understandably, a piece about marketing a movie didn't really say anything bad about the film's premise, but it would have been nice to examine that marketing angle, too. I mean, what's being marketed in Expelled is inarguably a ball of lies tied up with Christian ribbons. At least with The Passion of the Christ (Paul Lauer marketed both films), the existence of Jesus is still arguable.

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Kil
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Posted - 04/09/2008 :  08:43:07   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Kil's Homepage  Send Kil an AOL message  Send Kil a Yahoo! Message Send Kil a Private Message
Originally posted by Starman

Review from FauxNews.com
Scroll down!
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,348468,00.html
"Expelled" is a sloppy, all-over-the-place, poorly made (and not just a little boring) "expose" of the scientific community. It's not very exciting. But it does show that Stein, who's carved out a career selling eye drops in commercials and amusing us on sitcoms, is either completely nuts or so avaricious that he's abandoned all good sense to make a buck.

Wow! I thought I might be hallucinating this. The Fox reviewer panned the movie, panned Ben Stein, and also showed the producers cowardice by opening their dreck mainly in rural areas and bible belt states.

Not getting a favorable review from Fox must be a serious blow to the producers of Expelled.


I wonder if that reviewer will still be working for Fox tomorrow?

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