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SFN Die Hard
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 Posted - 04/09/2008 : 11:04:04 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by Kil
Originally posted by Starman
Review from FauxNews.com
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http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,348468,00.html | "Expelled" is a sloppy, all-over-the-place, poorly made (and not just a little boring) "expose" of the scientific community. It's not very exciting. But it does show that Stein, who's carved out a career selling eye drops in commercials and amusing us on sitcoms, is either completely nuts or so avaricious that he's abandoned all good sense to make a buck. |
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Wow! I thought I might be hallucinating this. The Fox reviewer panned the movie, panned Ben Stein, and also showed the producers cowardice by opening their dreck mainly in rural areas and bible belt states.
Not getting a favorable review from Fox must be a serious blow to the producers of Expelled.
I wonder if that reviewer will still be working for Fox tomorrow?
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Gonna lay it on us iggnerent rednecks first, eh? Excellent! That means that I'm likely not going to have to spend a dime to see, or at least get a pretty accurate report on it. Lovely! A nearby church (Southern Baptist) will doubtless get a copy and I am acquainted with much of the congregation as well as the Pastor. When I give to disaster victims such as the recent tsunami survivors, I do most of it through them. I'll drop a hint (which will fool no one) and they might invite me to a showing. They'll certainly tell me all about it.
The Fox review might be telling in still another way. This might be such a shitty production that he had no choice, if the credibility, such as it is, of the company is to be maintained. Hell Kil, that flick might be so bad that he got an Attaboy and a raise out of it!
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"If only we could impeach on the basis of criminal stupidity, 90% of the Rethuglicans and half of the Democrats would be thrown out of office." ~~ P.Z. Myres
"The default position of human nature is to punch the other guy in the face and take his stuff." ~~ Dude
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filthy
SFN Die Hard
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 Posted - 04/09/2008 : 12:24:33 [Permalink]
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Nary a peep on the review at UcD yet; only this; <shrug> something to do with one David Berlinski being a true Rennasance man.
They're gonna have to comment on it soon, aren't they? To not do so would further compromise their position, wouldn't it?
I dunno; maybe not...
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"What luck for rulers that men do not think." -- Adolf Hitler (1889 - 1945)
"If only we could impeach on the basis of criminal stupidity, 90% of the Rethuglicans and half of the Democrats would be thrown out of office." ~~ P.Z. Myres
"The default position of human nature is to punch the other guy in the face and take his stuff." ~~ Dude
Brother Boot Knife of Warm Humanitarianism,
and Crypto-Communist!
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Starman
SFN Regular
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 Posted - 04/10/2008 : 00:28:28 [Permalink]
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Oooooops!
Expelled receives a cease-and-desist letter(pdf).| This letter will constitute notice to you, as Chairman of Premise Media Corporation, of the copyright infringement by your corporation, and its subsidiary, Rampant Films, of material produced by XVIVO LLC, in which XVIVO holds a copyright. |
ERV : EXPELLED: EXPELLED for plagiarism
The Austringer : OK, Expelled… But Plagiarism Will Do That For You
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"Any religion that makes a form of torture into an icon that they worship seems to me a pretty sick sort of religion quite honestly"
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Posted - 04/10/2008 : 05:28:05 [Permalink]
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| Expelled: the gift that keeps on giving |
by Filthy
The neo-con methane machine will soon be running at full fart. |
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filthy
SFN Die Hard
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Posted - 04/10/2008 : 06:07:43 [Permalink]
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By the Savior's Sacred Sac, have these dolts no competence at all? I've seen better organization running around headless in the barnyard, to plagiarize Blackadder, who plagiarized it from someone else.
It is going to be fun watching this play out and to read the all but incoherent howls of 'Darwinist prejudice' and it's accompanying hand-waving.
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"What luck for rulers that men do not think." -- Adolf Hitler (1889 - 1945)
"If only we could impeach on the basis of criminal stupidity, 90% of the Rethuglicans and half of the Democrats would be thrown out of office." ~~ P.Z. Myres
"The default position of human nature is to punch the other guy in the face and take his stuff." ~~ Dude
Brother Boot Knife of Warm Humanitarianism,
and Crypto-Communist!
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filthy
SFN Die Hard
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Posted - 04/10/2008 : 08:14:50 [Permalink]
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Here's some more on it from The Panda's Thumb -- sounds of crickets from UcD, crickets with laryngitis.
Edit: I am beginning to seriously doubt that Expelled will ever see the light of day, as are some other Thumbers.
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"What luck for rulers that men do not think." -- Adolf Hitler (1889 - 1945)
"If only we could impeach on the basis of criminal stupidity, 90% of the Rethuglicans and half of the Democrats would be thrown out of office." ~~ P.Z. Myres
"The default position of human nature is to punch the other guy in the face and take his stuff." ~~ Dude
Brother Boot Knife of Warm Humanitarianism,
and Crypto-Communist!
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Kil
Evil Skeptic
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Posted - 04/10/2008 : 08:34:22 [Permalink]
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So, they attempted an end run around the plagiarism issue by making their own version/copy of the video in question. Did they really think no one would notice?
You know, on some level you got to love these guys. I'm starting to wonder if the producers of Expelled are double agents... |
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Why not question something for a change?
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HalfMooner
Dingaling
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Posted - 04/10/2008 : 08:42:27 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by filthy
Here's some more on it from The Panda's Thumb -- sounds of crickets from UcD, crickets with laryngitis.
Edit: I am beginning to seriously doubt that Expelled will ever see the light of day, as are some other Thumbers.
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If so, the Creationists will add Expelled to their mythological lore-list of "Darwinist" suppressions, leaving out the parts about plagiarism, interviews under false pretenses, etc, etc.
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bngbuck
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Posted - 04/10/2008 : 08:54:33 [Permalink]
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Filthy.....
Brother snapper, you are truly a treasure! "The Savior's Sacred Sac" is the best bon mot I've run across in many a day! I am appropriating it as of right now, I intend to shamelessly plagiarize it and (as soon as people forget,) claim it as my own!
Filth, you are one of the very few people on this forum of whom I am jealous! Quickest quill in the quiver! A beautiful alliterative fundie put-down, Filth! |
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Dave W.
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Posted - 04/10/2008 : 08:58:11 [Permalink]
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Allen MacNeill notified UD yesterday within a pre-existing thread, and they're all a-squawk over it. jstanley clearly doesn't understand "fair use."
(And TroutMac, glory be, clearly suggests that disagreement with ID means that you deny the possibility of a transcendant God, and gets smacked for being such a bigot.) |
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filthy
SFN Die Hard
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Posted - 04/10/2008 : 09:09:08 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by bngbuck
Filthy.....
Brother snapper, you are truly a treasure! "The Savior's Sacred Sac" is the best bon mot I've run across in many a day! I am appropriating it as of right now, I intend to shamelessly plagiarize it and (as soon as people forget,) claim it as my own!
Filth, you are one of the very few people on this forum of whom I am jealous! Quickest quill in the quiver! A beautiful alliterative fundie put-down, Filth!
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Da nada, old friend. 'Tis yours for the taking.
Besides, I've been literate (read: Bookworm!) almost as long as you have and probably stole it from someone else, just don't remember where nor even doing so.
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"What luck for rulers that men do not think." -- Adolf Hitler (1889 - 1945)
"If only we could impeach on the basis of criminal stupidity, 90% of the Rethuglicans and half of the Democrats would be thrown out of office." ~~ P.Z. Myres
"The default position of human nature is to punch the other guy in the face and take his stuff." ~~ Dude
Brother Boot Knife of Warm Humanitarianism,
and Crypto-Communist!
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filthy
SFN Die Hard
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Posted - 04/10/2008 : 09:25:10 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by Dave W.
Allen MacNeill notified UD yesterday within a pre-existing thread, and they're all a-squawk over it. jstanley clearly doesn't understand "fair use."
(And TroutMac, glory be, clearly suggests that disagreement with ID means that you deny the possibility of a transcendant God, and gets smacked for being such a bigot.)
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Dave, I've got to admire your patience. I have been described as having the patience of a corpse, but not even I could follow the torturous (il)logic wending it's fractured way through all of the threads at Uncaluated Descent for more than a few posts.
Heh, I wonder how long some of, or any of, those turkeys would last in here. Not very, methinks.
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"What luck for rulers that men do not think." -- Adolf Hitler (1889 - 1945)
"If only we could impeach on the basis of criminal stupidity, 90% of the Rethuglicans and half of the Democrats would be thrown out of office." ~~ P.Z. Myres
"The default position of human nature is to punch the other guy in the face and take his stuff." ~~ Dude
Brother Boot Knife of Warm Humanitarianism,
and Crypto-Communist!
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Dave W.
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Posted - 04/10/2008 : 10:25:25 [Permalink]
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It's not my patience, filthy. All credit for finding that must go to the fine folks over at After the Bar Closes who keep an eye on UD so we don't have to.
(They also happen to be discussing motorcycles right now, 'cause Gil rides a Harley.) |
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Evidently, I rock!
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filthy
SFN Die Hard
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Posted - 04/10/2008 : 11:42:00 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by Dave W.
It's not my patience, filthy. All credit for finding that must go to the fine folks over at After the Bar Closes who keep an eye on UD so we don't have to.
(They also happen to be discussing motorcycles right now, 'cause Gil rides a Harley.)
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Damn! I haven't been in the Bar after hours in a long time. I wonder why I quit visiting...... I'll have to rechange my ways again.
I'm waiting to see it on the UcD home page. That one should be amazing in it's convolutions. Hope O'Leary writes it.
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"What luck for rulers that men do not think." -- Adolf Hitler (1889 - 1945)
"If only we could impeach on the basis of criminal stupidity, 90% of the Rethuglicans and half of the Democrats would be thrown out of office." ~~ P.Z. Myres
"The default position of human nature is to punch the other guy in the face and take his stuff." ~~ Dude
Brother Boot Knife of Warm Humanitarianism,
and Crypto-Communist!
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filthy
SFN Die Hard
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Posted - 04/10/2008 : 11:54:41 [Permalink]
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Aha! Got one!
| Premise Media has just been slapped with a “cease and desist” letter from XVIVO, the group at Harvard that produced the video clips from which the still images at the top of this thread were taken. They are alleging copyright infringement (not to mention blatant plagiarism). The full text of the letter from XVIVO's lawyers can be read at: |
It's really more of a whine than any sort of rebuttal, but I'm willing to wait.
They still seem to be a little bashful on the Fox review. I doubt if it'll appear unless it turns up in comments.
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"What luck for rulers that men do not think." -- Adolf Hitler (1889 - 1945)
"If only we could impeach on the basis of criminal stupidity, 90% of the Rethuglicans and half of the Democrats would be thrown out of office." ~~ P.Z. Myres
"The default position of human nature is to punch the other guy in the face and take his stuff." ~~ Dude
Brother Boot Knife of Warm Humanitarianism,
and Crypto-Communist!
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