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ocheewah
Skeptic Friend
USA
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 Posted - 09/19/2007 : 10:58:35
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Jesse Jackson criticized Sen. Barack Obama for "acting like he's white" in regards to Obama's response to the arrest of six black juveniles'on attempted-murder charges in Jena, La. His "whiteness" consisted of calling on the local Louisiana district attorney to drop the excessive charges brought in the case of the Jena 6.
If you don't know about the case, it began initially when a group of black students sat in an area under a tree usually occupied by white students. The next day, three nooses were hung from the tree. Racial tensions grew, several incidents occurred culminating in the assault(with shoes) of a white student. Six blacks were charged with attempted murder and aggravated battery.
“When nooses are being hung in high schools in the 21st century, it's a tragedy,” the Obama statement said. “It shows that we still have a lot of work to do as a nation to heal our racial tensions.”
Obama released a statement on the case Friday evening after one of the teen's charges was thrown out, saying, “I am pleased that the Louisiana state appeals court recognized that the charges brought in this case were inappropriate."
What "black" thing could Obama have possibly said?
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Edited by - ocheewah on 09/19/2007 11:02:54
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HalfMooner
Dingaling
Philippines
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Posted - 09/19/2007 : 11:05:07 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by ocheewah
Jesse Jackson criticized Sen. Barack Obama for acting like he's white”in in regards to Obama's response to the arrest of six black juveniles'on attempted-murder charges in Jena, La. His "whiteness" consisted of calling on the local Louisiana district attorney to drop the excessive charges brought in the case of the Jena 6.
If you don't know about the case, it began initially when a group of black students sat in an area under a tree usually occupied by white students. The next day, three nooses were hung from the tree. Racial tensions grew, several incidents occurred culminating in the assault(with shoes) of a white student. Six blacks were charged with attempted murder and aggravated battery.
“When nooses are being hung in high schools in the 21st century, it's a tragedy,” the Obama statement said. “It shows that we still have a lot of work to do as a nation to heal our racial tensions.”
Obama released a statement on the case Friday evening after one of the teen's charges was thrown out, saying, “I am pleased that the Louisiana state appeals court recognized that the charges brought in this case were inappropriate."
What "black" thing could Obama have possibly said?
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In this case, Jackson was out of line, merely pandering to the worst black nationalist paranoia. ML King would have had some words to say to Jackson, I believe. Like, maybe, "Thought doesn't have a skin color, Jesse."
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Gorgo
SFN Die Hard
USA
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Posted - 09/19/2007 : 11:13:32 [Permalink]
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He seems to be backing away from the idea that Obama was acting like he's white.
“If I were a candidate, I'd be all over Jena,” Jackson said after an hour-long speech at Columbia's historically black Benedict College.
“Jena is a defining moment, just like Selma was a defining moment,” said the iconic civil rights figure, who worked with Martin Luther King Jr. in the 1965 Selma civil rights movement and was with King at his 1968 assassination.
Later, Jackson said he did not recall making the “acting like he's white” comment about Obama, stressing he only wanted to point out the candidates had not seized on an opportunity to highlight the disproportionate criminal punishments black youths too often face.
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from http://www.thestate.com/local/v-print/story/177514.html |
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HalfMooner
Dingaling
Philippines
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Posted - 09/19/2007 : 21:42:57 [Permalink]
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Good, Gorgo! Backing away is better than digging the hole deeper, anyway.
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filthy
SFN Die Hard
USA
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 Posted - 09/20/2007 : 02:20:50 [Permalink]
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Dr. Jackson let his mouth run away with his mind. Obama is running for an office representitive of all citizens, not merely a single, racial group.
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HalfMooner
Dingaling
Philippines
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Posted - 09/20/2007 : 02:59:03 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by filthy
Dr. Jackson let his mouth run away with his mind. Obama is running for an office representitive of all citizens, not merely a single, racial group.
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Exactly!
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marfknox
SFN Die Hard
USA
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Posted - 09/20/2007 : 05:47:01 [Permalink]
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Like Mooner, I agree with Filthy's statement. It doesn't matter that Jackson would be "all over Jena" if he were a candidate. He's not a candidate. And what's more, why is bugging Obama about it (when Obama IS addressing the Jena issue!) but not the white candidates? You don't cure racism with racism.
I also disagree with Jackson that this is a "defining moment" in the same way that Selma Alabama was a defining moment. To say so is just as likely to diminish the important of the civil rights march for voting rights in 1965 as it is to exaggerate the significance of this event. Clearly the charge of attempted murder in this case is way too harsh for the crime, and the punishment against the white students for the nooses wasn't harsh enough, but I just don't see how this case of racism can even compare to the widespread prevention of blacks' votes in the 60's, and then being tear gassed and beaten with billy clubs when citizens peacefully protested. |
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HalfMooner
Dingaling
Philippines
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Posted - 09/20/2007 : 05:57:30 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by marfknox
Like Mooner, I agree with Filthy's statement. It doesn't matter that Jackson would be "all over Jena" if he were a candidate. He's not a candidate. And what's more, why is bugging Obama about it (when Obama IS addressing the Jena issue!) but not the white candidates? You don't cure racism with racism.
I also disagree with Jackson that this is a "defining moment" in the same way that Selma Alabama was a defining moment. To say so is just as likely to diminish the important of the civil rights march for voting rights in 1965 as it is to exaggerate the significance of this event. Clearly the charge of attempted murder in this case is way too harsh for the crime, and the punishment against the white students for the nooses wasn't harsh enough, but I just don't see how this case of racism can even compare to the widespread prevention of blacks' votes in the 60's, and then being tear gassed and beaten with billy clubs when citizens peacefully protested.
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So right. It's not a "defining monent" at all, just a disturbing reminder that our country still has a large residue of racism. Actually, I think Jackson's motivation was to interfere in the Democratic primary. I suspect he was put up to making his racist statement by another candidate.
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marfknox
SFN Die Hard
USA
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Posted - 09/20/2007 : 06:05:59 [Permalink]
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Mooner wrote: | Actually, I think Jackson's motivation was to interfere in the Democratic primary. I suspect he was put up to making his racist statement by another candidate. |
If anything, Jackson's criticism of Obama helps Obama by making Jackson look extreme and reactionary and Obama look even more moderate and inclusive.
If Obama does win the primary, I have a hard time imagining hordes of black Americans refusing to vote for the first black president because Jesse Jackson once said "He isn't black enough." |
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HalfMooner
Dingaling
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Posted - 09/20/2007 : 06:42:14 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by marfknox
Mooner wrote: | Actually, I think Jackson's motivation was to interfere in the Democratic primary. I suspect he was put up to making his racist statement by another candidate. |
If anything, Jackson's criticism of Obama helps Obama by making Jackson look extreme and reactionary and Obama look even more moderate and inclusive.
If Obama does win the primary, I have a hard time imagining hordes of black Americans refusing to vote for the first black president because Jesse Jackson once said "He isn't black enough."
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I agree that was the actual result, but I suspect the intention was straightforward trying to hurt Obama. I think the whole thing is making black people consider the silly idea of "black enough." Bill Clinton, a undeniably white guy, was and still is "black enough." Why not Obama?
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