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bngbuck
SFN Addict
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Posted - 10/18/2007 : 23:22:02 [Permalink]
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Dave....
No, I think you are overly sensitive, for some reason I cannot discern. Kil was the one who requested a response from me. I spent a good deal of time and thought in formulating that response to him. When I hear his answer, having heard yours, I think I will be able to grasp the dynamic that is forming here and proceed to answer you both appropriately.
There are obviously two separate problems that I am being perceived as causing, or at least being involved in. I believe they are related, but I may be wrong. If it turns out that way, I am sorry to not have responded to you directly. However, I would like Kil's views before going any further; as I feel that what he was talking about with respect to the general problem of insult and "poking", if you will, bears directly on your comment about my interaction with Marf.
In any event, I most certainly was not intending to "poke at" you. I don't know if I think it is a good idea or not, as I did not realize that my asking for Kil's input was a "poke" or would be taken as one! Interesting! I'll think about that.
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bngbuck
SFN Addict
USA
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Posted - 10/19/2007 : 00:01:03 [Permalink]
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Kil.....
All men's skin is thin
Enough to be rip't apart
By touch of a pin!
You are wrong. No insinuation. You guys are virtually Janus!
Got to plead guilty on counts one, and maybe two, if you include suspicion of innuendo.
I certainly hope so, else we will be well on the way to entropy!
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bngbuck
SFN Addict
USA
2437 Posts |
Posted - 10/19/2007 : 00:35:55 [Permalink]
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Marf.....
You said:
| You really should stop before you expose any more of your own ignorance. Warhol's work was never near photographic realism |
(Emphasis mine)
This looks kinda like a photo, you know, what with the really good drawing and all!
Educate me!
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marfknox
SFN Die Hard
USA
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Posted - 10/19/2007 : 03:28:34 [Permalink]
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| I now go to start a new thread on photorealism... |
"Too much certainty and clarity could lead to cruel intolerance" -Karen Armstrong
Check out my art store: http://www.marfknox.etsy.com
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bngbuck
SFN Addict
USA
2437 Posts |
Posted - 10/19/2007 : 08:33:02 [Permalink]
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Dave.....
Is Grasshopper hopping any better now since instruction?
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Dave W.
Info Junkie
USA
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 Posted - 10/19/2007 : 11:11:03 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by bngbuck
In any event, I most certainly was not intending to "poke at" you. I don't know if I think it is a good idea or not, as I did not realize that my asking for Kil's input was a "poke" or would be taken as one! Interesting! I'll think about that. |
And perhaps that's why I found it bizarre. Why ask me what Kil thinks of a post I'd just written? Why not ask Kil? Surely you had a point with asking me what Kil thought, but I'll be damned if I can figure out what it was. I still don't know, despite some alleged "instruction" (and that post appears to contain another poke or two). A couple of weeks ago, I would have said I had a good handle on where you're coming from, bngbuck. This thread has, at the very least, dispelled that illusion for me. |
- Dave W. (Private Msg, EMail)
Evidently, I rock!
Why not question something for a change?
Visit Dave's Psoriasis Info, too. |
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bngbuck
SFN Addict
USA
2437 Posts |
Posted - 10/19/2007 : 14:25:55 [Permalink]
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Dave....
Wow. We really are sensitive aren't we?
Okay. I understood that Kil "owns" the forum. When the owner of the joint you're visiting takes the trouble to talk to you, it's a bit of an honor, and you try to oblige. Kil had asked me to explain myself with regard to a note I wrote to Boomer. I attempted to do that in great detail. I saw, perhaps mistakenly, that my offense to him was similar to my offense to you, although with respect to different problems. I, apparently in error again, thought that the two of you frequently consulted with each other with regards to posting problems and problem posters. Like me. Now, please tell me where I am mistaken with regard to these matters. Because I obviously need more instruction, Master Po.
You are really off base with respect to the "grasshopper instruction" metaphor. I was asking if you (Master Po) thought that I (Caine) had shown some improvement with my genteel post to Marfknox (involving the Andy Warhol Tomato Soup can image), after your (Master Po) instruction to me (Caine) concerning my "poking" at Marf. If this still confuses you, go read your Net e-mail.
Come on Dave, everybody's insecure, but you're too smart to let your emotions get in the way of your perception!
A couple of weeks ago, I would have said I had a good handle on where you're coming from, Dave W. This thread has, at the very least, confused that perception for me. |
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Dave W.
Info Junkie
USA
26022 Posts |
Posted - 10/19/2007 : 14:53:16 [Permalink]
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Well, one thing is obvious: you're confusing "utter confusion" with "being sensitive."
This may all be a longish series of miscommunications, I'm not sure yet. |
- Dave W. (Private Msg, EMail)
Evidently, I rock!
Why not question something for a change?
Visit Dave's Psoriasis Info, too. |
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bngbuck
SFN Addict
USA
2437 Posts |
Posted - 10/19/2007 : 15:09:02 [Permalink]
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Neither am I!
As I have said elsewhere, your lack of comprehension skills is exceeded only by my lack of communication skills!
Edited to add aphorism. |
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Kil
Evil Skeptic
USA
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Posted - 10/20/2007 : 10:27:49 [Permalink]
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Bill:
I understood that Kil "owns" the forum. |
No. I am a cofounder of SFN. If it could be said that anyone owns the site, @tomic would be that person. He is our webmaster and pays for the server.
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Uncertainty may make you uncomfortable. Certainty makes you ridiculous.
Why not question something for a change?
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Siberia
SFN Addict
Brazil
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Posted - 10/29/2007 : 12:12:54 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by bngbuck
Marfknox.....
I promise not to hit on you this time, as I was perceived to be doing from my wheelchair last time we met!
With respect to your commentary on natural talent, I am unsure as to what other kind of talent there may be, however your point is extremely well taken and requires some thought and research on my part before I can properly answer. I will return this evening or tomorrow with a response.
Ooo - I got another one. Money can't cure incurable diseases, including insanity. I'd rather be among the working poor and healthy than rich and severely mentally ill.
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As regards a cure for incurable diseases, I believe this is a form of oxymoron and as such is precluded from consideration by my original caveat that we must exclude things that don't exist! A curable incurable disease is much like an irresistible force applied to an immovable object!
Insanity is not currently seen as a medical condition, rather a legal definition, and usually thought of as temporary. Physicians prefer the term mental illness, which frequently is curable by expensive treatment and medication. I have personal experience with this and I must agree with your "working poor" aphorism. However, if I had not had considerable financial resource available at the time of my illness, I would very likely be institutionalized or dead (by my own hand) today!
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Mm, whereas money can't buy the cure, per se, money will fund the study for a cure and eventually, the cure itself, once - if - it's found. Money alone, directly, can't buy a cure, but indirectly, sure it can. I'd be a lot worse if I didn't have the money to pay for treatment, wouldn't I? And arthritis, as far as I know, is quite incurable. So money certainly bought me, though not a cure, relief.
[ yes, I am most likely horribly late on this thread; I've just skimmed the art parts because, well, I don't care about it. I also see you were refering to mental illnesses; but the point stands - money will, eventually, buy the cure if one's to be had. Sure, being penniless and healthy is preferable. ] |
"Why are you afraid of something you're not even sure exists?"
- The Kovenant, Via Negativa
"People who don't like their beliefs being laughed at shouldn't have such funny beliefs."
-- unknown
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bngbuck
SFN Addict
USA
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Posted - 10/30/2007 : 07:47:37 [Permalink]
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Siberia, you rock!
My point(s) exactly! |
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Money can buy (almost) Anything!
