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Dave W.
Info Junkie
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 Posted - 11/01/2007 : 18:53:17 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by marfknox
These examples show exactly why I think the Catholic Church is worse. It is preying on the most poor and powerless. In order to make a decision to not use psychiatric drugs, you have to be able to afford them in the first place, so we're talking at least middle class people in the first world. The Catholic Church primarily hurts the abject poor in third world countries. And taking money from rich people, hmmmmm, yeah? How is that any worse than people who market expensive pet products and other stupid luxuries for the stupid rich to spend thousands of dollars on? I mean, that sucks, but it doesn't sound nearly as bad as taking a poor person's last few dollars. |
You can be a Catholic in good standing without tithing a dime, so far as I know, and some of the money gets back to the people who gave it by way of actual, useful community services. You can't possibly get to Scientology's "reward" without spending many thousands of dollars, and I don't see Scientologists spending any of it doing "good works." Hell, even Narconon costs the addicts fifteen grand or more, with a low rate of success.| My point is not that Scientology is a religion like any other. The point I think you mean is that I'm claiming it is a religion. Call it also a cult, a business, a scam, whatever, but I hold that it is also a religion. It calls itself a church, is an organized institution, puts forth a philosophy, has adherents, and encourages belief in a specific set of supernatural crap. |
Okay, I see that.| Actually, my original point was that I am not convinced that Scientology creeping into some Christian churches is more dangerous than it not doing so. |
Yeah, I knew that. I can see good, bad, and "so what?" parts to that sort of bizarre melding of religions. In the end, it'll probably be a wash. |
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HalfMooner
Dingaling
Philippines
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Posted - 11/01/2007 : 20:11:29 [Permalink]
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This kind of sharing of technique reminds me of the way some bacteria or viruses exchange genetic traits across species boundaries. In some cases, disease organisms can pick up antibiotic and antiviral resistence this way, making them more virulent.
It still scares me.
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“Biology is just physics that has begun to smell bad.” —HalfMooner
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marfknox
SFN Die Hard
USA
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Posted - 11/01/2007 : 20:29:04 [Permalink]
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Dave wrote: | You can be a Catholic in good standing without tithing a dime, so far as I know, and some of the money gets back to the people who gave it by way of actual, useful community services. You can't possibly get to Scientology's "reward" without spending many thousands of dollars, and I don't see Scientologists spending any of it doing "good works." Hell, even Narconon costs the addicts fifteen grand or more, with a low rate of success. |
That's a good point.
| Yeah, I knew that. I can see good, bad, and "so what?" parts to that sort of bizarre melding of religions. In the end, it'll probably be a wash. |
Funny how many of our conversation are a series of clarifications ending in agreement. 
Half wrote: This kind of sharing of technique reminds me of the way some bacteria or viruses exchange genetic traits across species boundaries. In some cases, disease organisms can pick up antibiotic and antiviral resistence this way, making them more virulent.
It still scares me. |
Nice metaphor. Fair ‘nuff.
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Dave W.
Info Junkie
USA
26022 Posts |
Posted - 11/01/2007 : 20:38:50 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by marfknox
Funny how many of our conversation are a series of clarifications ending in agreement. |
Heheh. Actually, I agreed with your original point from the get-go, I just wanted to chime in on some of your other points. Or what seemed like your other points. |
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HalfMooner
Dingaling
Philippines
15831 Posts |
Posted - 11/01/2007 : 20:53:45 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by Dave W.
Originally posted by marfknox
Funny how many of our conversation are a series of clarifications ending in agreement. |
Heheh. Actually, I agreed with your original point from the get-go, I just wanted to chime in on some of your other points. Or what seemed like your other points.
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Then why the Hell do we even bother?
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Dave W.
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HalfMooner
Dingaling
Philippines
15831 Posts |
Posted - 11/01/2007 : 23:00:31 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by Dave W.
Originally posted by HalfMooner
Then why the Hell do we even bother? |
Say huh?
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I mean, if we can't even sustain a decent Donnybrook, what's the use?
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JohnOAS
SFN Regular
Australia
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Posted - 11/03/2007 : 03:53:25 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by HalfMooner
Originally posted by Dave W.
Originally posted by HalfMooner
Then why the Hell do we even bother? |
Say huh?
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I mean, if we can't even sustain a decent Donnybrook, what's the use? |
You're right, I think I'll thump the next fool who dares agree with me.
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John's just this guy, you know. |
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On fire for Christ
SFN Regular
Norway
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Posted - 11/03/2007 : 09:26:56 [Permalink]
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| How can those Priests call themselves Christians. I wonder if Elron Hubbard will beam their asses up from the lake of fire. |
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Scientology sneaking into Christian churches
