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HalfMooner
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Posted - 11/08/2007 :  10:25:27  Show Profile Send HalfMooner a Private Message  Reply with Quote
It's called the Water Resources Development Act. Bush vetoed it last week, and now the Senate has overridden his veto. The House of Representatives already over-rode it on Tuesday. That's the first time a Bush veto has ever been defeated.

I am hoping this will make overriding Bush's habitual vetoing easier. (No story yet to link to. I just now watched the vote live.)




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Edited by - HalfMooner on 11/08/2007 10:26:12

Dave W.
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Posted - 11/08/2007 :  12:40:12   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Dave W.'s Homepage Send Dave W. a Private Message  Reply with Quote
So this makes one out of four Bush vetoes that have been overridden, a rate of 25%. The national average among all vetoes is 4.2% (2,554 vetoes with 107 overrides).

Andrew Johnson had a rate of 51.7% (29 vetoes, 15 overrides).
Gerald Ford had a rate of 18.2% (66 vetoes, 12 overrides).

So currently, Bush has landed the #2 slot on the "Most Overriden Vetoes" leaderboard.

And just think: at this time yesterday, Bush was sharing the extreme opposite end of the leaderboard with Washington, Monroe, Van Buren, Polk, Buchanan, Lincoln, McKinley, Harding, Kennedy and LBJ, all of whom issued vetoes but had none overriden. (Not counting the guys who didn't issue any vetoes to be overriden: John Adams, Jefferson, John Quincy Adams, Harrison, Taylor, Fillmore and Garfield).

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HalfMooner
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Posted - 11/08/2007 :  13:23:08   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send HalfMooner a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Sounds like a "small sample" problem, Dave. Hopefully, there'll be more data in the next year or so.


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Dave W.
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Posted - 11/08/2007 :  14:26:17   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Dave W.'s Homepage Send Dave W. a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Compared to the amount of legislation being passed, Bush is a serious under-performer when it comes to vetoes. Clinton had 37 of them, and Bush the elder had 44 (in just one term!).

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Dude
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Posted - 11/08/2007 :  14:27:27   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Dude a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Its not like Bush has issued many vetoes.

The problem is that Bush had full control over congress until '06. They just didn't send him anything that he would have vetoed.

It symptomatic of a bigger problem, the blurring of the lines around ecexutive power.


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