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HalfMooner
Dingaling
Philippines
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Posted - 11/14/2007 : 00:50:03 [Permalink]
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I'm virtually certain Ken Ham himself has utter disdain for the Genesis myth. He's just too smart and knowledgeable for it to be otherwise, IMO. He's a clever one, he is.
Look at how he ripped off the Creationists of Oz, how he was smart enough not to waste his energy and money on an attempt to get Creationism into the schools. That's for saps and fanatics like Howard Ahmanson and his hirelings at the Discovery Institute to do.
Look how he suckered pious fools into paying for his Creation Museum. Look at how, behind every pretend-science apology for Genesis, he has "The Bible says so, and that's that" as his pre-stated backup position. Plenty of people around Ham accept his version of the Creation myth, but not him.
Kent Hovind, I could see that greedy idiot believing his own lies. Not Ham. He's just too smart for that silly nonsense.
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filthy
SFN Die Hard
USA
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 Posted - 11/14/2007 : 03:12:32 [Permalink]
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My own suspicions exactly; the guy is a huckster on a par with P.T. Barnham. The biggest difference is that his circus doesn't smell of elephants & piss & cotten candy puke. At least, I don't think it does.... It might.... Can't say fer sure & true 'cause I ain't seen it.... Yet....
Unlike Barnham, who had to travel to his audiences, Ham can just sit there and watch the suckers waltz through the door, leaving a double sawbuck with him in the process. And as he is carrying no debt, he has only a little overhead beyond the electric bill. Sweet!
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filthy
SFN Die Hard
USA
14408 Posts |
Posted - 11/14/2007 : 04:07:46 [Permalink]
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-On a related matter, the Colossal Load of Horseshit needs a bigger parking lot. Creation Museum to expand
LARGER-THAN-EXPECTED CROWDS CREATE NEED FOR MORE PARKING
ASSOCIATED PRESS
photo provided by Creation Museu
An animatronic 40-foot sauropod overlooks the main hall of the museum in Boone County. Photo provided
PETERSBURG --Northern Kentucky's Creation Museum is evolving into a larger facility.
The museum will add 663 parking spaces, outdoor canopies and a maintenance building and will move its main entrance as part of a $500,000 upgrade.
But the work won't begin until Answers in Genesis, the ministry that runs the museum, raises the money, said Mike Zovath, vice president of museum operations.
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And the money will be raised from....?
Yeah buddy; they'll backhoe every dime, not from the facility's profits, but from the donations of the suckers believers.
I wonder, if I offer them a percentage, will they let me set up a three-card monte game in that nice, new parking lot. If so, I'll be hirin' shills. Anyone interested?
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"What luck for rulers that men do not think." -- Adolf Hitler (1889 - 1945)
"If only we could impeach on the basis of criminal stupidity, 90% of the Rethuglicans and half of the Democrats would be thrown out of office." ~~ P.Z. Myres
"The default position of human nature is to punch the other guy in the face and take his stuff." ~~ Dude
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Kil
Evil Skeptic
USA
13477 Posts |
Posted - 11/14/2007 : 08:54:34 [Permalink]
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filthy:
Unlike Barnham, who had to travel to his audiences, Ham can just sit there and watch the suckers waltz through the door, leaving a double sawbuck with him in the process. And as he is carrying no debt, he has only a little overhead beyond the electric bill. Sweet! |
Not completely correct. Barnum didn't take his show on the road until his American Museum in New York burnt to the ground a couple of times. He then hooked up with an existing circus and lent his name to the traveling show. Eventually the
Ringling Brothers bought the whole shebang and combined the shows.
Barnum's American Museum
| P.T. Barnum's American Museum, located from 1841 to 1865 at the corner of Broadway and Ann Street in lower Manhattan, has been long recognized by historians as a pivotal institution in the development of nineteenth-century urban culture. Barnum purchased the museum from John Scudder in 1841. Foreshadowing trends in American commercial amusement, the Museum gathered exhibitions and amusements that previously had been offered in separate milieus. In an urban culture characterized by increasing difference—in taste, in subject, and in audience—it was the first to combine sensational entertainment and gaudy display with instruction and moral uplift. For a twenty-five cent admission, visitors viewed an ever-revolving series of "attractions," from the patchwork Fejee Mermaid to the diminutive and articulate Tom Thumb. But the Museum also promoted educational ends, including natural history in its menageries, aquaria, and taxidermy exhibits; history in its paintings, wax figures, and memorabilia; and temperance reform and Shakespearean dramas in its "Lecture Room" or theater. Thus the museum drew its audience from a wide range of social classes and strove to assure that the lecture room and salons would be one of the few respectable public spaces for middle-class women. However, until the Civil War African Americans were, except for certain days, barred from the Museum, as they were from most antebellum New York commercial amusements. |
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HalfMooner
Dingaling
Philippines
15831 Posts |
Posted - 11/14/2007 : 10:33:49 [Permalink]
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Barnum was an honest showman compared to Ham. He collected "freaks" for his circus, exploiting them for the "entertainment" value of their deformities. But he treated these people (who would almost certainly have no income were it not for performing as freaks) so well that in his old age, some of them pitched in to support Barnum.
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astropin
SFN Regular
USA
970 Posts |
Posted - 11/14/2007 : 11:36:28 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by filthy
Here's John Scalzi's take on Ham's Creation Museum. It's an excellent read! ON THE CREATION MUSEUM
By John Scalzi
Here's how to understand the Creation Museum:
First, imagine, if you will, a load of horseshit. And we're not talking just your average load of horseshit; no, we're talking colossal load of horsehit. An epic load of horseshit. The kind of load of horseshit that has accreted over decades and has developed its own sort of ecosystem, from the flyblown chunks at the perimeter, down into the heated and decomposing center, generating explosive levels of methane as bacteria feast merrily on vintage, liquified crap. This is a Herculean load of horseshit, friends, the likes of which has not been seen since the days of Augeas.
And you look at it and you say, “Wow, what a load of horseshit.”
But then there's this guy. And this guy loves this load of horseshit. Why? Well, really, who knows? What possesses someone to love a load of horseshit? It's beyond your understanding and possibly you don't actually want to know, even if you could know; maybe it's one of those “on that path lies madness” things. But love it he does, and he's not the only one; the admiration for this particular load of horseshit exists, unaccountably, far and wide. There are advocates for this load of horseshit.
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I have got to get out there and see this wonderful load of horseshit for myself. Maybe next spring....
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LMFAO! classic! |
I would rather face a cold reality than delude myself with comforting fantasies.
You are free to believe what you want to believe and I am free to ridicule you for it.
Atheism:
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Dude
SFN Die Hard
USA
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Posted - 11/17/2007 : 01:08:25 [Permalink]
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On a related note....(to the OP anyway), something funny!
http://whateveresque.com/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=495&st=0&sk=t&sd=a
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HalfMooner
Dingaling
Philippines
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Posted - 11/17/2007 : 01:33:13 [Permalink]
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That's hilarious stuff, Dude! Thanks!
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Dude
SFN Die Hard
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Posted - 11/17/2007 : 02:28:35 [Permalink]
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I'm still laughing at a couple of those. Gotta love it!
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Ignorance is preferable to error; and he is less remote from the truth who believes nothing, than he who believes what is wrong.
-- Thomas Jefferson
"god :: the last refuge of a man with no answers and no argument." - G. Carlin
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The handmaiden of desperation; the opiate of despair; the illegible signpost on the road to perdition. ~~ da filth |
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Archereon
New Member
New Zealand
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Posted - 12/03/2007 : 02:59:07 [Permalink]
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well you could always go to the New Zealand creation museum seen here http://www.creation-museum.org.nz] which is, kind of ironically housed in a former (current) mental hospital in Otago, NZ's equivalent of the deep south where farmers guard their sheep and daughters from roving relatives. | A lively museum that affirms the truth of the Biblical record of origins and demonstrates the failings of biological evolutionism and geological uniformitarianism #8212; and the many faulty #8220;scientific#8221; notions and teachings that they have spawned. |
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A Colossal Load of Horseshit!
