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Dave W.
Info Junkie
USA
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 Posted - 11/23/2007 : 18:14:45 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by Ricky
There has to be some serious psychological testing for me to agree. And I would give at least a month of waiting time in case the criminal changes their mind. |
No, they get the month (probably much longer) ahead of their agreement, along with any testing that might seem necessary to convince a jury. There'd be tons of procedural stuff to get through between the time the crook tells the D.A. that he's willing to die and the time the crook appears in court to make it official. During all of that, the self-condemned can just say "I changed my mind." Right up until the jury okays it. Hell, even as the jury re-enters the courtroom after making its decision, but before that decision is read into the public record. Make it official only with a gavel-pounding, and make sure it's videotaped with at least three cameras. If there's any dispute, go to the video to see whether the "W" sound in "WAIT!" came before or after the gavel hit wood.
After all, if anyone does start this process and then bails on it, it'll be back to business as usual. Before seeing the judge and jury, the D.A. still has to have the evidence in hand to prove guilt, so if the crook declines to die early on, no effort is wasted. If things have progressed to the judge-and-jury stage, then assume the allocution they have to make when they say, "I'll die for this crime" is a regular admission of guilt, and the judge can simply sentence the crook to prison or whatever seems appropriate.
And if someone changes his/her mind after the gavel falls, I'd say "tough." Once that point is reached, these people will literally have nothing to lose, and can start playing around, trying to game the system, wasting time and money. That's why they should be executed within hours. They will have had a zillion chances to say "I want to live" by this time. |
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chaloobi
SFN Regular
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Posted - 11/27/2007 : 07:52:08 [Permalink]
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| All science and actual knoweldge aside, I don't think the Death Penalty deters crime. I know it doesn't deter me at any rate. When I decide not to murder someone, I'm never thinking about the death penalty. And I'm fairly typical, so the rest of the country is probably thinking along the same lines. Anyone here ever actually been deterred from murder by the Death Penalty? |
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bngbuck
SFN Addict
USA
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Posted - 11/27/2007 : 10:34:27 [Permalink]
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Many times. I often lay awake at night devising complex scenarios, but thoughts of the efficiency of former Treasury agents intrude and effectively deter the completion of the thought process.
Recently, I have directed my contemplation to possible methods of invalidation of USDHS employee's effectiveness (of a non-terminal nature) allowing the actualization of a yet to be finalized primary plan.
Any comments or assistance would be appreciated! |
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Gorgo
SFN Die Hard
USA
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Posted - 11/27/2007 : 11:06:06 [Permalink]
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Looking at the statistics, including the recidivism rate, the purpose of prison, and the death penalty is to lock up (and kill) poor people, especially young black and latino men.
It's also become big business, and keeps a lot of high paid lawyers and judges working.
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chaloobi
SFN Regular
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Posted - 11/27/2007 : 11:54:11 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by bngbuck
Many times. I often lay awake at night devising complex scenarios, but thoughts of the efficiency of former Treasury agents intrude and effectively deter the completion of the thought process.
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 Well then. I stand corrected.
The nice thing about the death penalty, as is being made increasingly evident by DNA evidence, far too often you don't actually have to have done the crime to get the sentence. Of course most often you have to be a minority to get that particular benefit. And I'm sure it's a benefit not limited to penalties of death, so I guess it's a non-issue. |
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