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BigPapaSmurf
SFN Die Hard
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Posted - 12/03/2007 : 12:48:31
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http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/7124156.stm
Chimps have a superior memory function in some tests...
Edit: God just gots pwned
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"...things I have neither seen nor experienced nor heard tell of from anybody else; things, what is more, that do not in fact exist and could not ever exist at all. So my readers must not believe a word I say." -Lucian on his book True History
"...They accept such things on faith alone, without any evidence. So if a fraudulent and cunning person who knows how to take advantage of a situation comes among them, he can make himself rich in a short time." -Lucian critical of early Christians c.166 AD From his book, De Morte Peregrini |
Edited by - BigPapaSmurf on 12/03/2007 12:51:36
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chaloobi
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Posted - 12/03/2007 : 12:52:41 [Permalink]
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That's why we invented writing, to compensate for our shitty memories and put us over the damn chimps once and for all. And it worked. |
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HalfMooner
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Posted - 12/03/2007 : 13:41:46 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by chaloobi
That's why we invented writing, to compensate for our shitty memories and put us over the damn chimps once and for all. And it worked.
| We must keep our edge. There must be a new law, legislated world-wide! Scientists must be prohibited from teaching chimps to read and write!
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“Biology is just physics that has begun to smell bad.” —HalfMooner Here's a link to Moonscape News, and one to its Archive. |
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Hawks
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Canada
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Posted - 12/03/2007 : 14:26:37 [Permalink]
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My sincerest apologies for being predictable, but it's started! |
METHINKS IT IS LIKE A WEASEL It's a small, off-duty czechoslovakian traffic warden! |
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Dude
SFN Die Hard
USA
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Posted - 12/03/2007 : 14:52:50 [Permalink]
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chaloobi said:
That's why we invented writing, to compensate for our shitty memories |
I'll go out on a limb here.... and say that before literacy was as common as it is today that human memory was at least on-par with those chimps.
Could test that out by giving the same tests to people who live in a less industrialized part of the world with low literacy rates, where oral traditions are maintained and people must rely more on memory for day to day things.
We already know that memory can be trained in humans, and those skills deteriorate unless regularly excercised.
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Ignorance is preferable to error; and he is less remote from the truth who believes nothing, than he who believes what is wrong. -- Thomas Jefferson
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pleco
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Posted - 12/03/2007 : 14:54:28 [Permalink]
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Or test memory who put a lot of info into storage devices like cell phones as opposed to those who memorize phone numbers, etc. |
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Dave W.
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chaloobi
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Posted - 12/04/2007 : 11:42:22 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by Dude
chaloobi said:
That's why we invented writing, to compensate for our shitty memories |
I'll go out on a limb here.... and say that before literacy was as common as it is today that human memory was at least on-par with those chimps.
Could test that out by giving the same tests to people who live in a less industrialized part of the world with low literacy rates, where oral traditions are maintained and people must rely more on memory for day to day things.
We already know that memory can be trained in humans, and those skills deteriorate unless regularly excercised.
| Here's another consideration - in our culture we are bombarded constantly with tons of information we may (or may not) need to remember. The sheer volume likely leads to some level of forgetfulness. 1000 years ago a typical human almost certainly had a vastly more simple life in that respect and perhaps had an easier time remembering day to day items that might present themselves.
And chimps? What the hell do they have to remember on a day to day basis? The tree with lots of bananas is left of the stream beyond the big rock? Don't eat the smelly, squishy fruit or you'll puke? The cute female with the longish toes is easy to mate with while the big chimp is asleep? Come on. |
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chaloobi
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Posted - 12/04/2007 : 11:48:16 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by HalfMooner
Originally posted by chaloobi
That's why we invented writing, to compensate for our shitty memories and put us over the damn chimps once and for all. And it worked.
| We must keep our edge. There must be a new law, legislated world-wide! Scientists must be prohibited from teaching chimps to read and write!
| I saw what happened in the third Planet of the Apes movie. Keep those chimps ignorant lest they learn how to shoot you.
Side Note: That 3rd film was totally off base, IMHO. The apes were supposed to have evolved to higher intelligence after humans destroyed their civilization with nuclear war. They weren't supposed to be chimps and gorillas like we see today - they had changed. But in film 3, they created that causal loop and dropped that entire premise. Fooey.
1st Film Nitpick - while the effect in the film was very dramatic, (Damn you all to hell!) there's no way in hell the Statue of Liberty would have looked so good so long after the fall of humanity. It would have been an unrecognizable rusted hulk at best. |
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