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bngbuck
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Posted - 01/14/2008 : 14:24:29 [Permalink]
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Chippewa.....
You wrote:| Maybe because I use the name "Chippewa" - you might assume there's some reason for me to use it. |
By that logic, I would have to assume that Filthy had abominable personal hygeine and possibly was a bit player in a Johnny Depp movie, or H.Humbert was the incarnation of a famous pedophile in a Nabokov novel, Dave W. was an incredibly gifted newborn with a one letter surname (actually, that's true), or Halfmooner goes about with a very big hole in one side of the rear of his jeans!| But even if I wasn't Chippewa, your post was still pompously racist to Native North Americans. |
I am sending all of the pertinent sections of this thread to some friends of mine at the Navajo Tribal Council (Navajo Nation Council) in Windowrock, Arizona. I am asking them to discuss it with the Council members for opinion as to whether my post appears racist to them, in the context in which it was made. You give your location as USA, so I assume you are Ojibwa, not Canadian Saulteaux. I assume that you are of unmixed ancestry, so as a sixteenth-blood Navajo to a full-blood Ojibwa, I will offer my apology to you, and to the Navajos, for making a racial affront if a consensus or majority of the governing Navajos agree with your contention!| I understood right away that your Kandinski WWII bomber story was meant as a joke but the response also showed that you're likely unaware as to why I linked to both his painting and an airplane in the original context of a thread you started. So the joke without a question or any follow-up became a put-down as well. It also showed that you don't know why I did that or never thought of asking why. |
Even prickly Marf stated:| Kandinsky's middle and later work were influenced by the same Bauhaus aesthetic forces that the industrial designers were inspired by, and so he's more of a cousin that a predecessor or cause himself. |
Which was exactly the point I was making with:What is your view of the B-17 as a example of the logical extension into the 1940's of Gropius's 1920s vision of aesthetic functionality crafting utilitarian products - ultimately resulting in the work of Norman Bel Geddes, Henry Dreyfuss, and Raymond Loewy, among others?
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and| into the revolution in industrial design begun in Germany in the 'teens and exemplified particularly in the aircraft and automobile design of the thirties and forties? |
You go on to state:| Actually I originally linked to a picture of a Navy Corsair but the link broke so I replaced it with a B 17. I thought about just posting a picture of a Talbot Lago (car) or maybe an building designed by Frank Lloyd Wright. |
Any of those, or the Chrysler or Locomotive or hundreds of other examples would have worked as well! Your point was well taken and well illustrated! This is what you concluded:| Aesthetics was the only criteria in pointing out the melding of art and science. |
If what you were saying was not that the aesthetic ethic as personified in the work of the Bauhaus was also exemplified in later industrial design such as the B-17 (which Marf apparently sees only as an instrument of death, it is also a beautiful machine); what in hell were you saying? I'm here to learn, teach me! |
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bngbuck
SFN Addict
USA
2437 Posts |
Posted - 01/14/2008 : 15:52:45 [Permalink]
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Dave.....
| If you were to copy that list of names and save it, and then re-generate the list a month from now, you could apply the Lincoln-Petersen method and get a better estimate of active users. |
I greatly appreciate that very helpful suggestion. I'm doing some revision on my commentary of "skeptical" perception of shoes, ships, and sealing wax and some data will help.
Take out the google run-up and what do you get? Actually, now that I think about it and considering comments like Smurf's (above), about the only indicator of "value' would be a tally and derived ratios of replies! At least a reader has to read something in order to write a reply that makes any sens....nope, that doesn't work either! Sorry, Humbert, we'll never know what a bore I am! |
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chaloobi
SFN Regular
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 Posted - 01/15/2008 : 10:55:56 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by bngbuck
Chaloobi.....
Not just a simple mistake, a stupid and careless mistake. I am a writer, and as such, am trained to proof, check, and correct my work before publication. In this case, that means before hitting "Submit Reply".
I carefully checked that post for grammar, spelling, punctuation, and logical sequence. Not for addressee! It's like letting a book get published with the wrong title on the dust cover! It was stupid!
BTW, your brain is a lot less limited than some, Chaloobi. It sounds to me as though it is working pretty well indeed!
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Thanks for the compliment. What do you write? |
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bngbuck
SFN Addict
USA
2437 Posts |
Posted - 01/15/2008 : 11:43:21 [Permalink]
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Chaloobi.....
| Thanks for the compliment. What do you write? |
I try not to compliment, just tell the truth when it I see it.
To date, my major printed opus has been my doctoral dissertation over fifty years ago. After leaving the halls of Academia, at the urging of my Dad I went into business. To get 'A's on that report card takes some committment! I spent most of my mature life in pursuit of the buck! Appropriate, huh?
I retired at fifty. I don't need to work any more thanks to the Buttonwood Agreement of 1792! God (are you listening, G?) bless American capitalism! After traveling too much, some teaching, a stab at Management Consulting (lost money on that one!) I decided to try and free the long dormant intellectual dilletante in me.
For the past ten years I have been practicing the writer's craft, in order to express well some Ideas on Everything that I have harbored all through a long and largely dreary commercial career! I am currently writing a book on Perception intended for publication. As several here have suggested, I will probably have to publish it myself. I am prepared to do that, simply because I know how to sell things, and it would be an irresistable challenge to sell a book!
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bngbuck
SFN Addict
USA
2437 Posts |
Posted - 01/15/2008 : 11:59:28 [Permalink]
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Dave.....
Re the Hitler thing:It's obvious! It's by far the best picure of Hitler of the whole Google collection. Anybody looking for an image of the Worst Person in the World Until Cheney, would select that image. So Google, in their inimitable recognition of quality and What Sells, put it first!
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Oh, and Dave, it's "vagaries". I'm not sniping, I'm a bit of a perfectionist, as are you, and I'd appreciate your performing the same service for me anytime the occasion calls for it! |
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Dave W.
Info Junkie
USA
26022 Posts |
Posted - 01/15/2008 : 20:11:50 [Permalink]
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| It's not just Hitler. There's an Ann Coulter photo that we're just linking to (not displaying) that gives us tons of hits, too. And filthy's venom article also gives us lots of traffic for images that we don't display. It's weird. It's Google. |
- Dave W. (Private Msg, EMail)
Evidently, I rock!
Why not question something for a change?
Visit Dave's Psoriasis Info, too. |
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BigPapaSmurf
SFN Die Hard
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Posted - 01/16/2008 : 07:03:39 [Permalink]
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| Ive always thought Hitler looked goofy, I never understood those former Nazi's who said they were drawn in by his powerful persona. Maybe if I spoke German Id understand. |
"...things I have neither seen nor experienced nor heard tell of from anybody else; things, what is more, that do not in fact exist and could not ever exist at all. So my readers must not believe a word I say." -Lucian on his book True History
"...They accept such things on faith alone, without any evidence. So if a fraudulent and cunning person who knows how to take advantage of a situation comes among them, he can make himself rich in a short time." -Lucian critical of early Christians c.166 AD From his book, De Morte Peregrini |
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bngbuck
SFN Addict
USA
2437 Posts |
Posted - 01/16/2008 : 14:36:16 [Permalink]
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Papa Smurf.....
You'd have to do more than speak Korean to understand this certifiable crackedcrock Crazy! Talk about goofy!
Every generation seems to have at least one! We've got Bush, to boot!
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JohnOAS
SFN Regular
Australia
800 Posts |
Posted - 01/28/2008 : 06:21:17 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by bngbuck
Originally posted by marf
your spoof seems to attempt to share the hidden truth that Kandinsky's art is directly connected to murderous revenge through instruments of war. |
Kee Ryst! What a load of horsecrap! And when called on it, she certainly didn't justify using those words or even clearly explain what drove her to make such an comment. |
For what it's worth, your description gave me exactly the sort of impression marf describes, but as I knew approximately zero (+/- 5%) about the artists in question, I simply read on.
I now understand that you didn't mean it that way, and perhaps my knowledge of the subject matter means the joke was destined to be wasted on me. Regardless, you are responsible for what you write, and I would suggest that what you wrote is easily misinterpreted from your (now revealed) apparent meaning.
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John's just this guy, you know. |
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Are the Humanities of any Value, really?
