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Starman
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Sweden
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 Posted - 01/16/2008 : 06:21:29
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Brilliant!
Benny Pope is not welcome at Rome's largest and oldest university, La Sapienza. From The Guardian
Pope Benedict XVI last night called off a visit to Rome's main university in the face of hostility from some of its academics and students, who accused him of despising science and defending the Inquisition's condemnation of Galileo.
The controversy was unparalleled in a country where criticism of the Roman Catholic church is normally muted. The Pope had been due to speak tomorrow during ceremonies marking the start of the academic year |
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filthy
SFN Die Hard
USA
14408 Posts |
 Posted - 01/16/2008 : 07:04:02 [Permalink]
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Heh, they never should have invited him in the first place. If they just had to have a Benny wearing a dress & a funny hat, they should have played tapes of this one in the auditorium. It would have inmparted a lot more wisdom, no one would have gone to sleep, and it would have been a lot less expensive.
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"What luck for rulers that men do not think." -- Adolf Hitler (1889 - 1945)
"If only we could impeach on the basis of criminal stupidity, 90% of the Rethuglicans and half of the Democrats would be thrown out of office." ~~ P.Z. Myres
"The default position of human nature is to punch the other guy in the face and take his stuff." ~~ Dude
Brother Boot Knife of Warm Humanitarianism,
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HalfMooner
Dingaling
Philippines
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Posted - 01/17/2008 : 00:03:22 [Permalink]
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That is so cool! You ain't welcome in Rome, bitch!
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“Biology is just physics that has begun to smell bad.” —HalfMooner
Here's a link to Moonscape News, and one to its Archive. |
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Robb
SFN Regular
USA
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Posted - 01/18/2008 : 09:21:53 [Permalink]
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Government is not reason; it is not eloquent; it is force. Like fire, it is a dangerous servant and a fearful master. - George Washington |
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H. Humbert
SFN Die Hard
USA
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 Posted - 01/18/2008 : 10:35:49 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by Robb
Yes, a university is just the place to repress ideas
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Rejecting tired, old, and plain bad ideas is not "repression", Robb. It's not like Pope hasn't had a chance to get his message out there. This is a reaction to that message.
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"A man is his own easiest dupe, for what he wishes to be true he generally believes to be true." --Demosthenes
"The first principle is that you must not fool yourself - and you are the easiest person to fool." --Richard P. Feynman
"Face facts with dignity." --found inside a fortune cookie |
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Cuneiformist
The Imperfectionist
USA
4955 Posts |
Posted - 01/18/2008 : 11:11:53 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by Robb
Yes, a university is just the place to repress ideas |
From the article:| The signatories of the letter said Benedict's presence would be "incongruous". They cited a speech he made at La Sapienza in 1990, while he was still a cardinal, in which he quoted the judgment of an Austrian philosopher of science who wrote that the church's trial of Galileo was "reasonable and fair". |
I'd say that if the guy has a track record of going to a university and saying that scientists should recant their ideas when said ideas conflict with the church, then he's probably not going to be welcome there anymore.
(ETA: This is post number 3666 for me!!! Whoo-hoo! Triple the devlish action!) |
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Starman
SFN Regular
Sweden
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Posted - 01/18/2008 : 11:34:24 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by Cuneiformist
They cited a speech he made at La Sapienza in 1990, while he was still a cardinal, in which he quoted the judgment of an Austrian philosopher of science who wrote that the church's trial of Galileo was "reasonable and fair". |
For a discussion on this quote see John Wilkins blog, Evolving Thoughts |
"Any religion that makes a form of torture into an icon that they worship seems to me a pretty sick sort of religion quite honestly"
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Cuneiformist
The Imperfectionist
USA
4955 Posts |
Posted - 01/18/2008 : 13:20:41 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by Starman
Originally posted by Cuneiformist
They cited a speech he made at La Sapienza in 1990, while he was still a cardinal, in which he quoted the judgment of an Austrian philosopher of science who wrote that the church's trial of Galileo was "reasonable and fair". |
For a discussion on this quote see John Wilkins blog, Evolving Thoughts |
Huh. In any case, it is refreshing to find affirmation in my general hatred of philosophy. |
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filthy
SFN Die Hard
USA
14408 Posts |
Posted - 01/18/2008 : 13:29:14 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by Cuneiformist
Originally posted by Robb
Yes, a university is just the place to repress ideas |
From the article:| The signatories of the letter said Benedict's presence would be "incongruous". They cited a speech he made at La Sapienza in 1990, while he was still a cardinal, in which he quoted the judgment of an Austrian philosopher of science who wrote that the church's trial of Galileo was "reasonable and fair". |
I'd say that if the guy has a track record of going to a university and saying that scientists should recant their ideas when said ideas conflict with the church, then he's probably not going to be welcome there anymore.
(ETA: This is post number 3666 for me!!! Whoo-hoo! Triple the devlish action!)
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Just wait 'till you hit 6,666! Believe me, it's a profane Nirvana! But alas, it's likely the last one as 66,666 seems unattainable, for me anyway.
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"What luck for rulers that men do not think." -- Adolf Hitler (1889 - 1945)
"If only we could impeach on the basis of criminal stupidity, 90% of the Rethuglicans and half of the Democrats would be thrown out of office." ~~ P.Z. Myres
"The default position of human nature is to punch the other guy in the face and take his stuff." ~~ Dude
Brother Boot Knife of Warm Humanitarianism,
and Crypto-Communist!
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Pope not welcome at Roman university
