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Dude
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Posted - 01/31/2008 :  13:40:50  Show Profile Send Dude a Private Message  Reply with Quote
http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5i4_imUWaeaI9OnqZgz7rntTYtaIAD8UEBON00

This topic hasn't come up much here.

Is it OK for media corporations to decide who is allowed to run for president? Because that happened this election cycle. Media companies excluded some candidates from debates, often backed up by a court, this time around.

I can see a political party deciding who its potential cadnidates for president will be, but the media? This looks like a serious case of the media manipulating the electoral process.


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Dave W.
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Posted - 01/31/2008 :  15:12:49   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Dave W.'s Homepage Send Dave W. a Private Message  Reply with Quote
How is this not a violation of the Equal Time Rule?

Are the candidates paying for the air time they get at these debates? That's the only way I could see this not violating the ETR.

Wikipedia even says, "The rule was created because FCC thought the [radio] stations could easily manipulate the outcome of the elections."

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Dude
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Posted - 01/31/2008 :  15:39:22   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Dude a Private Message  Reply with Quote
This is one of those things that should have people marching in the streets, yet all I see on the part of the electorate in apathy. No one besides Kucinich seems to care that TV stations screwed him over and possibly broke the law while doing it.


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-- Thomas Jefferson

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pleco
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USA
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Posted - 01/31/2008 :  15:54:33   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit pleco's Homepage Send pleco a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Most people (imho) either have never heard of Kucinich, or think he is a liberal kook who doesn't have a chance of winning, so they don't care.

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Cuneiformist
The Imperfectionist

USA
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Posted - 01/31/2008 :  16:02:39   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Cuneiformist a Private Message  Reply with Quote
It's not even the debates, though. The media have been weaving a narrative for awhile now. There's no way Giuliani should have been a viable candidate for so long. But he was pushed as such as part of some larger media meme (pushed by the Giuliani-friendly Fox News), and was only after, well, it was inescapable that he was so horrible that he was axed.

But why was John Edwards-- who, in terms of policy-- is not so radically different from Clinton and Obama-- virtually ignored (unless it was the lame haircut bit)?
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filthy
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Posted - 01/31/2008 :  16:23:45   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send filthy a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Originally posted by Cuneiformist

It's not even the debates, though. The media have been weaving a narrative for awhile now. There's no way Giuliani should have been a viable candidate for so long. But he was pushed as such as part of some larger media meme (pushed by the Giuliani-friendly Fox News), and was only after, well, it was inescapable that he was so horrible that he was axed.

But why was John Edwards-- who, in terms of policy-- is not so radically different from Clinton and Obama-- virtually ignored (unless it was the lame haircut bit)?
The mainstream media, including PBS, is utterly corrupt and Edward's & Kucinich's coverage is a small part of the proof of it. Fuck 'em all; I get the news from any of several blogs.


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bngbuck
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Posted - 01/31/2008 :  18:58:07   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send bngbuck a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Big Media has been the fourth branch of the Federal Government for quite some time. Internet communication has an opportunity to change all that, except that there is more and more consolidation of ownership of Internet facilities, much as there is in the Media.

What's to stop Murdoch and Time-Warner, GE, Google (looking to buy the NY Times), and other enormous money/power aggregates from becoming the most important and powerful branch of government?

Nothing! It's a capitalist, free economy and enough dough will ultimately buy control of the Congress, the Courts, the Administration - as we have seen in the corrupt years of the Bush-Cheney-Neocon dictatorship.. As Media (including Internet) ownership cedes over to huge corporation control, the body politic itself will ultimately be bought and paid for. All hail the Caesars of Commerce! What to do? Obviously, too much Free Enterprise is not such a fucking good thing!

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