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Archereon
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 Posted - 03/22/2008 : 19:52:48 [Permalink]
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| Another one for the liars vault [Complete text snipped due to copyright concerns and because it's just the original that Dembski copied - Dave W.] |
West Ham Claret and Blue Army NZ div |
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Dave W.
Info Junkie
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Kil
Evil Skeptic
USA
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Posted - 03/24/2008 : 08:36:29 [Permalink]
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So, now he is caught in another lie. The lie he told to Dawkins in the Q and A as his reason for not letting Myers in. No ticket was the reason he gave...
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Starman
SFN Regular
Sweden
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 Posted - 03/31/2008 : 05:37:18 [Permalink]
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"Any religion that makes a form of torture into an icon that they worship seems to me a pretty sick sort of religion quite honestly"
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filthy
SFN Die Hard
USA
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 Posted - 03/31/2008 : 07:18:00 [Permalink]
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Here's Wikipedia's page on it: | Expelled: No Intelligence Allowed is a controversial[1] documentary film which claims that educators and scientists are being persecuted for their belief that there is evidence of design in nature. It claims that what they call “Big Science" allows no dissent from the scientific theory of evolution, and blames the theory for a range of modern movements from Nazism to Planned Parenthood.[2][3] Featuring Ben Stein, the film is due to be released on April 18, 2008.[4] |
It's pretty complete & straight forward, and it wouldn't suprise me if it got 'edited' to better suit Mathis' version of the story.
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"What luck for rulers that men do not think." -- Adolf Hitler (1889 - 1945)
"If only we could impeach on the basis of criminal stupidity, 90% of the Rethuglicans and half of the Democrats would be thrown out of office." ~~ P.Z. Myres
"The default position of human nature is to punch the other guy in the face and take his stuff." ~~ Dude
Brother Boot Knife of Warm Humanitarianism,
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filthy
SFN Die Hard
USA
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Posted - 03/31/2008 : 08:28:29 [Permalink]
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And AiG's: Several weeks ago, the Answers in Genesis (AiG) staff was treated to a viewing of the director's cut of the already-controversial film Expelled: No Intelligence Allowed.1 Expected to release April 18, Expelled is a hard-hitting, yet often humorous, documentary that chronicles how Darwin-dissenters have been ruthlessly expelled, or otherwise persecuted, in their professions. It is hosted by the very entertaining civil rights activist/economist/presidential speechwriter/cultural icon (actor and quiz-show host), Ben Stein, whom filmmakers follow as he goes on a personal quest to examine the origins question.
Expelled: No Intelligence Allowed has become controversial not only because it exposes those academicians who persecute people who have a belief in the appearance of “design” in nature, but also because the film is already generating a negative reaction (including from some of the film's subjects who come off in a highly unflattering way, including famed atheist-scientist Richard Dawkins).
The brilliant host of Expelled,
Ben Stein, makes a point during
his meeting with AiG-U.S. President
Ken Ham just before a preview showing
of his film. This superb documentary
comes to theaters nationwide on April 18. |
Pretty much as expected. 
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"What luck for rulers that men do not think." -- Adolf Hitler (1889 - 1945)
"If only we could impeach on the basis of criminal stupidity, 90% of the Rethuglicans and half of the Democrats would be thrown out of office." ~~ P.Z. Myres
"The default position of human nature is to punch the other guy in the face and take his stuff." ~~ Dude
Brother Boot Knife of Warm Humanitarianism,
and Crypto-Communist!
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Starman
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Starman
SFN Regular
Sweden
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Posted - 04/03/2008 : 23:30:38 [Permalink]
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Now we can all get expelled.Posted on Stranger Fruit
Remember the e-mail I received stating that tonight's Expelled screening in Tempe was canceled? The e-mail simply stated:| The Tempe, AZ Screening has been canceled. |
Well, Ken McKnight called the theater today two or so hours before the screening. Ken says:| I just called the Arizona Mills Harkins theater and said that I had heard that the private screening of Expelled had been moved from 7:00 to 6:00 (I didn't mention that I had been emailed that the showing was canceled). The person I spoke to confirmed that the movie is showing today at 6:00. Clearly the promoters are somehow screening the attendees and then sending out cancellation notices to the "undesirables." |
There you go. Lying. Plain and simple and there is no way they can spin that. |
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"Any religion that makes a form of torture into an icon that they worship seems to me a pretty sick sort of religion quite honestly"
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filthy
SFN Die Hard
USA
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 Posted - 04/04/2008 : 01:43:14 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by Starman
Now we can all get expelled.Posted on Stranger Fruit
Remember the e-mail I received stating that tonight's Expelled screening in Tempe was canceled? The e-mail simply stated:| The Tempe, AZ Screening has been canceled. |
Well, Ken McKnight called the theater today two or so hours before the screening. Ken says:| I just called the Arizona Mills Harkins theater and said that I had heard that the private screening of Expelled had been moved from 7:00 to 6:00 (I didn't mention that I had been emailed that the showing was canceled). The person I spoke to confirmed that the movie is showing today at 6:00. Clearly the promoters are somehow screening the attendees and then sending out cancellation notices to the "undesirables." |
There you go. Lying. Plain and simple and there is no way they can spin that. |
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Wow! It's almost as if you'd have to camo up to get in, if you are not a believer. That's a hell of a way to promote a movie! Or a religion, for that matter.
The sad part is that it will probably be at least a modest success, as the blindly faithful and the easily impressed go out and get a fractured God-fix at Cineplex.
It's enough to make you ashamed to be of the same species.
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"What luck for rulers that men do not think." -- Adolf Hitler (1889 - 1945)
"If only we could impeach on the basis of criminal stupidity, 90% of the Rethuglicans and half of the Democrats would be thrown out of office." ~~ P.Z. Myres
"The default position of human nature is to punch the other guy in the face and take his stuff." ~~ Dude
Brother Boot Knife of Warm Humanitarianism,
and Crypto-Communist!
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Dave W.
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Posted - 04/04/2008 : 06:30:51 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by filthy
The sad part is that it will probably be at least a modest success, as the blindly faithful and the easily impressed go out and get a fractured God-fix at Cineplex. |
Well, don't let them forget that they were once dreaming about it being a top-ten documentary. Nevermind that plenty of documentaries get wide showing but low grosses. |
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filthy
SFN Die Hard
USA
14408 Posts |
 Posted - 04/06/2008 : 04:01:00 [Permalink]
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The woman is delusional!
"Expelled: “Denormalizing” the Darwin thugs
O'Leary
If I had heard the word “denormalizing” from a sociology prof, instead of from Ezra Levant, the courageous Canadian lawyer who is working to bring down Canada's unspeakable “human rights commissions”, I would just groan.
But, “denormalizing” is a useful term for the Expelled film's potential impact in the United States.
Consider, for example, the following recent events:
- When Rick Sternberg published a peer-reviewed paper in his Smithsonian journal that suggested support for intelligent design, a concerted effort was made to ruin his career. he was told not to come to the press conference disavowing the article because, he told Michael Powell of the Washington Post, “they could not guarantee me that they could keep order” among the distinguished Darwinist scientists (September 2005).
- At Iowa State University, brilliant young astronomer Guillermo Gonzalez was denied tenure. All sorts of questionable grounds were cited and strenuously defended (mostly by fans of materialism and Darwin). Then the e-mail trail showed that the true cause was his sympathy for intelligent design (in this case design of the universe). Did the other faculty fear his command of the evidence that demonstrates his argument? Note: The character of Gonzalez's opposition speaks for itself in that some continued to defend the mythical grounds even after the truth was out. (May 2007)
- At Baylor University, distinguished professor Robert Marks's Evolutionary Informatics Lab Web site was ripped down by disapproving faculty, clearly because he wanted to run simulations of Darwinian evolution that were not artificially designed to favor it (September 2007).
Most Americans knew little or nothing about these and many other Darwin fans' acts of thuggery and deceit. Hardly even a background hum."
They're still on about universities shitcanning professors due to incompentence. This should come as no suprise, as they have the likes of Wells and Behe on staff, and incompetence is the normal state of being at the Discovery Institute.
But I must admit: O'Leary is amazing!
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"What luck for rulers that men do not think." -- Adolf Hitler (1889 - 1945)
"If only we could impeach on the basis of criminal stupidity, 90% of the Rethuglicans and half of the Democrats would be thrown out of office." ~~ P.Z. Myres
"The default position of human nature is to punch the other guy in the face and take his stuff." ~~ Dude
Brother Boot Knife of Warm Humanitarianism,
and Crypto-Communist!
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HalfMooner
Dingaling
Philippines
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Posted - 04/08/2008 : 11:23:29 [Permalink]
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I think we should all see this, if it's ever released, but we should not contribute to its attendance numbers.
As someone (I think it may have been PZ's daughter) suggested, see it at a cineplex. Buy a ticket for a different movie, then sneak into the Expelled theater, making sure ticket takers and your rational friends don't see you. (Does this make me a conspirator? If so, good! About time I defied The Machine.)
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“Biology is just physics that has begun to smell bad.” —HalfMooner
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Dr. Mabuse
Septic Fiend
Sweden
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Posted - 04/09/2008 : 05:24:18 [Permalink]
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I'll be keeping an eye on Direct Connect hubs and Torrent sites, in case the piece of offal surface on the pirated films arena.
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Dr. Mabuse - "When the going gets tough, the tough get Duct-tape..."
Dr. Mabuse whisper.mp3
"Equivocation is not just a job, for a creationist it's a way of life..." Dr. Mabuse
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Dude
SFN Die Hard
USA
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Posted - 04/09/2008 : 06:55:11 [Permalink]
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What Mab said. If it ends up out there in P2P land I'll download it.
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Ignorance is preferable to error; and he is less remote from the truth who believes nothing, than he who believes what is wrong.
-- Thomas Jefferson
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Starman
SFN Regular
Sweden
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Posted - 04/09/2008 : 07:52:21 [Permalink]
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Review from FauxNews.com
Scroll down!
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,348468,00.html | "Expelled" is a sloppy, all-over-the-place, poorly made (and not just a little boring) "expose" of the scientific community. It's not very exciting. But it does show that Stein, who's carved out a career selling eye drops in commercials and amusing us on sitcoms, is either completely nuts or so avaricious that he's abandoned all good sense to make a buck. |
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"Any religion that makes a form of torture into an icon that they worship seems to me a pretty sick sort of religion quite honestly"
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PZ expelled from "Expelled" -- Dawkins slips in!
