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H. Humbert
SFN Die Hard

USA
4574 Posts

Posted - 04/29/2008 :  12:05:25   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send H. Humbert a Private Message
Originally posted by Dude

Humbert, having problems owning up to your own errors here now? Time to man-up and acknowledge your own mistakes.
I am going to respond politely, but this will be the last time I address you on this issue, because discussion is futile at this point.

I've not made any errors. You've tried to give Edmondson's words a spin that he rejects, noting that it wasn't an "inside job." I pointed out that his statements can be read to support ID, which he neither confirms nor denies, but notes that his words are ambiguous enough to mean the opposite. He appears to enjoy keeping his opinion to himself.

Not sure what errors you think I've committed. He openly admits to lampooning both sides. This was a creationist funded venture and it was intended as viral marketing for the film Expelled. All of these revelations are 100% on target to what I predicted.

And besides, all I needed was for you to be wrong, which you spectacularly were. This was never about whether I was correct or not, it just turns out that I was. No, it was about you ridiculing any opinion other than your own and then having to eat your words. Mission accomplished from where I sit. I originally had hoped that you might learn a lesson from all this, but you are incapable. We are beyond apologies. I feel your have amply revealed your true character here and that is enough for me.


"A man is his own easiest dupe, for what he wishes to be true he generally believes to be true." --Demosthenes

"The first principle is that you must not fool yourself - and you are the easiest person to fool." --Richard P. Feynman

"Face facts with dignity." --found inside a fortune cookie
Edited by - H. Humbert on 04/29/2008 12:20:56
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Dude
SFN Die Hard

USA
6891 Posts

Posted - 04/29/2008 :  12:42:05   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Dude a Private Message
Wow, thats pretty sad HH.

The man himself comes over here and tells you that you are wrong, and you are in full on denial.

Did you bother to read his posts in this thread? He has clearly informed you of your error.

HH said:
I am going to respond politely

Should we give you a little golf-clap or something? Own up to your mistake, get over it, and move on.

Not sure what errors you think I've committed.

Here, I'll list them for you! Because thats the nice kind of person I am.

M. Edmonson said:
H. Humpbert... or Humpy as I will call you.

you wrote:

"Which if anything indicates Edmondson believes ID has a scientific case to make, making him symnpathetic to the ID cause and ignorant of the science."


Well no... what I said doesn't indicate this. It can be taken both ways. I could have meant "ID is doomed to die on the vine".

(bolding mine, to make sure you notice it this time)

and:
Dude wrote:

"He is clearly not a "disinterested third party" and obviously does not have an "expressly creationist point of view"!"

This statement is true.


You're busted Humpy! Now, sit down and own your mistakes with the public admission you have demanded of me.


Ignorance is preferable to error; and he is less remote from the truth who believes nothing, than he who believes what is wrong.
-- Thomas Jefferson

"god :: the last refuge of a man with no answers and no argument." - G. Carlin

Hope, n.
The handmaiden of desperation; the opiate of despair; the illegible signpost on the road to perdition. ~~ da filth
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Michael Edmondson
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Posted - 04/30/2008 :  18:24:20   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Michael Edmondson's Homepage Send Michael Edmondson a Private Message
Humpy... you were wrong too... and it doesn't really matter.
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H. Humbert
SFN Die Hard

USA
4574 Posts

Posted - 04/30/2008 :  23:10:21   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send H. Humbert a Private Message
Originally posted by Michael Edmondson

Humpy... you were wrong too... and it doesn't really matter.
Well, first off, our argument wasn't about being right, but about manners. Dude was never asked to apologize for being wrong, but for being an asshole. His being wrong was merely supposed to shame him into taking a second look at his behavior. However, since Dude is a Grade A flaming asshole, he is incapable of such humility. Expecting any sort of basic human decency out of him was a colossal mistake and I realize that now. I won't repeat my error.

Second, since I see you've decided to continue to taunt me despite my repeated attempts at civility, then perhaps you can do us all here at the SFN the courtesy of commenting in this thread. It's not many of us here who can speak from first hand experience about what it's like selling out. How did you spend your blood money anyway?


"A man is his own easiest dupe, for what he wishes to be true he generally believes to be true." --Demosthenes

"The first principle is that you must not fool yourself - and you are the easiest person to fool." --Richard P. Feynman

"Face facts with dignity." --found inside a fortune cookie
Edited by - H. Humbert on 04/30/2008 23:34:07
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Kil
Evil Skeptic

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13477 Posts

Posted - 05/01/2008 :  07:24:22   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Kil's Homepage  Send Kil an AOL message  Send Kil a Yahoo! Message Send Kil a Private Message
Well, I've seen enough. I guess Dave's warning wasn't enough to get the flaming reined in. If you guys have anything more to say on this subject, take it to PM's. If you have a specific complaint to make, take it to a moderator or an administrator. I don't see any good coming from allowing this thread continue, so I am locking it.

Kil


Uncertainty may make you uncomfortable. Certainty makes you ridiculous.

Why not question something for a change?

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