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the_ignored
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Originally found on the Culture Wars blog. Sure, it's only a small scuffle, but it's worth watching. I'm cheering for Dave Scot on this one.
Hey, I take my entertainment where I can.
Ok, maybe it's not such a small scuffle after all. Check out the thread.
Someone on the Culture Wars site has the right idea:
| DaveScot is figuring out that just because some people are recorded in an Old Testament manuscript believing that God wanted them to murder helpless people, it doesn't mean that it was so. He deserves support, not mockery, in this perhaps difficult stage in his thinking and/or commenting. |
Perhaps those of you who actually can post may be able to do just that?
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>From: enuffenuff@fastmail.fm
(excerpt follows):
> I'm looking to teach these two bastards a lesson they'll never forget.
> Personal visit by mates of mine. No violence, just a wee little chat.
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> **** has also committed more crimes than you can count with his
> incitement of hatred against a religion. That law came in about 2007
> much to ****'s ignorance. That is fact and his writing will become well
> know as well as him becoming a publicly known icon of hatred.
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> Good luck with that fuckwit. And Reynold, fucking run, and don't stop.
> Disappear would be best as it was you who dared to attack me on my
> illness knowing nothing of the cause. You disgust me and you are top of
> the list boy. Again, no violence. Just regular reminders of who's there
> and visits to see you are behaving. Nothing scary in reality. But I'd
> still disappear if I was you.
What brought that on? this. Original posting here.
Another example of this guy's lunacy here. |
Edited by - the_ignored on 05/13/2008 12:42:49
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filthy
SFN Die Hard
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 Posted - 05/13/2008 : 19:29:16 [Permalink]
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Hmm. I might have to take back some of the harsh words I said about DaveScot. There seems to be hope for him yet.
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"What luck for rulers that men do not think." -- Adolf Hitler (1889 - 1945)
"If only we could impeach on the basis of criminal stupidity, 90% of the Rethuglicans and half of the Democrats would be thrown out of office." ~~ P.Z. Myres
"The default position of human nature is to punch the other guy in the face and take his stuff." ~~ Dude
Brother Boot Knife of Warm Humanitarianism,
and Crypto-Communist! 
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Dude
SFN Die Hard
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Posted - 05/13/2008 : 22:04:40 [Permalink]
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| I might have to take back some of the harsh words I said about DaveScot. |
I wouldn't, but thats just me 
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Ignorance is preferable to error; and he is less remote from the truth who believes nothing, than he who believes what is wrong.
-- Thomas Jefferson
"god :: the last refuge of a man with no answers and no argument." - G. Carlin
Hope, n.
The handmaiden of desperation; the opiate of despair; the illegible signpost on the road to perdition. ~~ da filth |
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HalfMooner
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Posted - 05/14/2008 : 01:03:26 [Permalink]
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DaveScot has deserved harsh words, and neither would I be hasty to withdraw previous things said (or, in my case, drawn) about him. But this is indeed a remarkable turnaround.
Dr. Dr. Bill Dembski must be horrified and confused to suddenly see this apparent voice of secular reason running his blog. (Dembski must be receiving all sorts of panicked advice from the wingnuts in and around the Disco Inst.)
It's as if Torquemada suddenly became hell-bent upon bringing down the Borgia Pope, Alexander VI.
Of course, it has always seemed strange to me to see DaveScot described as "a convinced agnostic" in his UD profile. It all goes to show that people are more complex than we can imagine, and are even more unpredictable. Fascinating.
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“Biology is just physics that has begun to smell bad.” —HalfMooner
Here's a link to Moonscape News, and one to its Archive. |
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filthy
SFN Die Hard
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Posted - 05/14/2008 : 02:29:11 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by Dude
| I might have to take back some of the harsh words I said about DaveScot. |
I wouldn't, but thats just me
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Well, really I won't and sooner or later I'll likely add to them. I's just sayin'.
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"What luck for rulers that men do not think." -- Adolf Hitler (1889 - 1945)
"If only we could impeach on the basis of criminal stupidity, 90% of the Rethuglicans and half of the Democrats would be thrown out of office." ~~ P.Z. Myres
"The default position of human nature is to punch the other guy in the face and take his stuff." ~~ Dude
Brother Boot Knife of Warm Humanitarianism,
and Crypto-Communist!
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BigPapaSmurf
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Posted - 05/14/2008 : 05:23:50 [Permalink]
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| Hardly noble, He's only trying to justify modern Christians lack of biblical justice measures. Im sure he'll have a similar convienent excuse as to why they are not killing their own children who talk back. |
"...things I have neither seen nor experienced nor heard tell of from anybody else; things, what is more, that do not in fact exist and could not ever exist at all. So my readers must not believe a word I say." -Lucian on his book True History
"...They accept such things on faith alone, without any evidence. So if a fraudulent and cunning person who knows how to take advantage of a situation comes among them, he can make himself rich in a short time." -Lucian critical of early Christians c.166 AD From his book, De Morte Peregrini |
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Kil
Evil Skeptic
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Posted - 05/14/2008 : 08:48:26 [Permalink]
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I would like to see how this plays out. What I get is that Dave Scott really does view ID as science and Expelled as nothing more than a tipping of the hand by those who promote another agenda. (On the other hand, he must know about the wedge document. That should have pissed him off too.)
On the issue of ID as science, I doubt that Scott will ever seem like a man of reason to us. And I don't understand how he missed the religious/christian issue underlying everything that UD stands for. Why didn't he speak up earlier?
Interesting stuff. |
Uncertainty may make you uncomfortable. Certainty makes you ridiculous.
Why not question something for a change?
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Dave W.
Info Junkie
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Posted - 05/14/2008 : 12:36:21 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by Kil
I would like to see how this plays out. |
It's already played out. Dave Scot banned Sarfati from UD on May 10th, and then locked the thread later that same day. |
- Dave W. (Private Msg, EMail)
Evidently, I rock!
Why not question something for a change?
Visit Dave's Psoriasis Info, too. |
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filthy
SFN Die Hard
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Posted - 05/14/2008 : 13:07:50 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by Dave W.
Originally posted by Kil
I would like to see how this plays out. |
It's already played out. Dave Scot banned Sarfati from UD on May 10th, and then locked the thread later that same day.
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Score another point in DaveScot's favor! 
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"What luck for rulers that men do not think." -- Adolf Hitler (1889 - 1945)
"If only we could impeach on the basis of criminal stupidity, 90% of the Rethuglicans and half of the Democrats would be thrown out of office." ~~ P.Z. Myres
"The default position of human nature is to punch the other guy in the face and take his stuff." ~~ Dude
Brother Boot Knife of Warm Humanitarianism,
and Crypto-Communist!
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Dave W.
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Kil
Evil Skeptic
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Posted - 05/14/2008 : 16:35:05 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by Dave W.
Originally posted by Kil
I would like to see how this plays out. |
It's already played out. Dave Scot banned Sarfati from UD on May 10th, and then locked the thread later that same day.
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Well, yes, on that thread. But that isn't what I meant. Scott seems to be increasingly annoyed with the Christian version of ID. And that should ruffle some feathers over at the Discovery Institute. |
Uncertainty may make you uncomfortable. Certainty makes you ridiculous.
Why not question something for a change?
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filthy
SFN Die Hard
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Posted - 05/14/2008 : 16:41:59 [Permalink]
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Intolerent, little prick, ain't he? But he's far from the first to dislike Sarfati's attitude.
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"What luck for rulers that men do not think." -- Adolf Hitler (1889 - 1945)
"If only we could impeach on the basis of criminal stupidity, 90% of the Rethuglicans and half of the Democrats would be thrown out of office." ~~ P.Z. Myres
"The default position of human nature is to punch the other guy in the face and take his stuff." ~~ Dude
Brother Boot Knife of Warm Humanitarianism,
and Crypto-Communist!
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Sarfati vs. Dave Scot on God's morality
