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andysnape
New Member
United Kingdom
39 Posts |
 Posted - 04/19/2002 : 01:03:25
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Poll Question:
Why do the Americans keep bombing their own side?
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| They are so hated in the world they think everyone is the enemy. |
 [5%] |
2 votes |
| They have a congenital allergy to maple leaves and red crosses. |
[5%] |
2 votes |
| They keep forgetting what the red button does. |
[5%] |
2 votes |
| The fat from all those burgers has clouded their judgement. |
[5%] |
2 votes |
| Too many Playstations, not enough reality. |
[9%] |
4 votes |
| Blame Canada!!! Blame Canada!!! |
[21%] |
9 votes |
| It's all a big CIA conspiracy cooked up with aliens and Elvis. |
[12%] |
5 votes |
| They are a nation of idiots. |
[40%] |
17 votes |
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Poll Status:
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Total Votes: 43 counted »» |
Last Vote:
06/28/2005 19:08:43 |
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Tim
SFN Regular
USA
775 Posts |
 Posted - 04/19/2002 : 02:36:51 [Permalink]
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Hey, Andysnape, us dumbass rednecks like to make fun of ourselves, but get pissed when someone else tries to do it for us. (I'd put one of those smiley faced things here, but I ain't figured it out, yet)
"The Constitution ..., is a marvelous document for self-government by Christian people. But the minute you turn the document into the hands of non-Christian and atheistic people they can use it to destroy the very foundation of our society." P. Robertson |
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Tim
SFN Regular
USA
775 Posts |
Posted - 04/19/2002 : 02:40:13 [Permalink]
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Personally, I thought about my neighbor, then my boss, then David Duke, and voted for the idiots. Guess there isn't any idiots in Brittain?
"The Constitution ..., is a marvelous document for self-government by Christian people. But the minute you turn the document into the hands of non-Christian and atheistic people they can use it to destroy the very foundation of our society." P. Robertson |
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filthy
SFN Die Hard
USA
14408 Posts |
Posted - 04/19/2002 : 05:04:22 [Permalink]
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It's gotta be the grease from all those Suicide Burgers at Mickey D's and places of similiar ilk that turns us into idiots. After all, isn't that where the term, "Fathead!" comes from?
And when you add American Processed Cheese...BARF!!
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"The way to see by faith is to shut the eye of reason."--Benjamin Franklin, _Poor_Richard_, 1758
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Slater
SFN Regular
USA
1668 Posts |
Posted - 04/19/2002 : 08:22:21 [Permalink]
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Oh Gawrd, yet another Brit who hasn't come to terms with the fact that England is now a third world nation.
Be more respectful of your betters Sasanach.*
* an Irish word used to discribe the English
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It will sometimes be necessary to use falsehood for the benefit of those who need such a mode of treatment.
----Eusebius of Nicomedia,
The Preparation of the Gospel |
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Snake
SFN Addict
USA
2511 Posts |
Posted - 04/19/2002 : 15:29:51 [Permalink]
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Oh Gawrd, yet another Brit who hasn't come to terms with the fact that England is now a third world nation.
Be more respectful of your betters Sasanach.*
* an Irish word used to discribe the English
I'm only a 1st generation 'American'(born in the USA) but my mother was born in Canada. Maybe I have no right to say anything.
I've never had much respect for Americans. Because of what I've always seen while growing up. And it IS now a 3rd world country here so I wouldn't be so quick to judge England (or anywhere else).
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Slater
SFN Regular
USA
1668 Posts |
Posted - 04/19/2002 : 16:36:47 [Permalink]
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I've never had much respect for Americans. Because of what I've always seen while growing up. And it IS now a 3rd world country here so I wouldn't be so quick to judge England (or anywhere else).
I am naturalized being born in Ireland and receiving my American citizenship while in combat in Vietnam.
I find it highly offensive considering the history of England vs. the rest of the planet that a Brit should make such wise arse remarks. I also find it unbelievablely tasteless that the accidental deaths of those poor brave Canadian kids should be considered fodder for English humor.
Snake, if you don't want to live in the 3rd world you might try getting those scrap iron bathtubs out of your yard and off to the recyclers for a start.
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It will sometimes be necessary to use falsehood for the benefit of those who need such a mode of treatment.
----Eusebius of Nicomedia,
The Preparation of the Gospel |
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Snake
SFN Addict
USA
2511 Posts |
Posted - 04/19/2002 : 17:32:35 [Permalink]
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Snake, if you don't want to live in the 3rd world you might try getting those scrap iron bathtubs out of your yard and off to the recyclers for a start.
LOL. I do my own recycling. That's why they are in the yard, with plants growing in them.
I'd rather work on getting the billboards that are in Spanish out of the neighborhood and teaching people (not the foreign born either), to speak better/proper English.
My room mate who is now a naturalized citizen learned, so why can't others? And the language he had to translate from is much more difficult then any latin based language.
Hum, here's a thought. If they could speak better English and communicate maybe they wouldn't be bombing their own people.
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Tim
SFN Regular
USA
775 Posts |
Posted - 04/20/2002 : 00:14:37 [Permalink]
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As Slater almost said in his typically adversarial, though often refreshing and enlightening manner;
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the accidental deaths of those poor brave Canadian kids should be considered fodder for [any] humor.
I think this is the real issue.
"The Constitution ..., is a marvelous document for self-government by Christian people. But the minute you turn the document into the hands of non-Christian and atheistic people they can use it to destroy the very foundation of our society." P. Robertson |
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Lars_H
SFN Regular
Germany
630 Posts |
Posted - 04/20/2002 : 10:03:09 [Permalink]
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The death of those soldiers is not funny.
But there is an issue here. Humor is probably the wrong way to approach it.
It appears to me from what I have seen in the news that an unusually large percentage of our people get killed in ways different from what we expecting.
There are all kinds of accidents. Helicopter crashs, friedly fire and being killed while trying to defuse munition. That is not what we were expecting when we were told there would be sacrifices.
Maybee it is a good thing. Accidents happen all the time and the fact that they appear to outweigh the death in regular combat means that we are faring well in that area.
Maybe our expectations were wrong, because Holywood does not adequatly show us how wars are fought in this day and age.
It also could be sign that there is some underlying flaw in the way this whole war is being fought. Maybee there is a problem somewhere and maybee it is something 'American'. I can't say, but I doubt it is burgers.
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Tim
SFN Regular
USA
775 Posts |
Posted - 04/21/2002 : 02:16:55 [Permalink]
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Maybee it is a good thing. Accidents happen all the time and the fact that they appear to outweigh the death in regular combat means that we are faring well in that area.
Maybe our expectations were wrong, because Holywood does not adequatly show us how wars are fought in this day and age.
Unfortunately, we can send a rather large bomb through a air conditioning vent from hundreds of miles away, but we have a hard time trying to decide if it is a good air conditioning vent, or a bad air conditioning vent.
"The Constitution ..., is a marvelous document for self-government by Christian people. But the minute you turn the document into the hands of non-Christian and atheistic people they can use it to destroy the very foundation of our society." P. Robertson |
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Garrette
SFN Regular
USA
562 Posts |
Posted - 04/23/2002 : 08:18:35 [Permalink]
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Friendly fire has been an issue in all military forces since there have been military forces. As have accidents. Disease has always caused more casualties than combat except for western forces beginning about the time of Vietnam.
The friendly fire incidents now draw more attention because they represent a higher percentage of total casualties, not a higher raw number. When our combat effectiveness is such that deaths from enemy fire remain low, the friendly fire deaths assume a more prominent position, though there occurrence is no greater than in the past.
I'll qualify that last statement. Though this was friendly fire, it was not intra-national; it was international. The US Air Force has a difficult enough time coordinating efforts and communicating with the US Army; coordinating and communicating with the Canadians poses significantly more problems than one might assume.
The "Fog of War" may thin and change shape, but it will never lift completely.
My kids still love me. |
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gezzam
SFN Regular
Australia
751 Posts |
Posted - 04/30/2002 : 05:25:15 [Permalink]
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I learnt from an earlier post not to hang too much shit on you Yanks.....and that was just about football....
However on a seroius note, you shouldn't make fun of the death of soldiers....we may not agree with all they do, however they are just pawns in a mach larger game of chess...
Some of things my dad has told me about World War II make me shudder....and realise how lucky I am to live in Australia where the only thing we get invaded by is New Zealander's looking for welfare benefits....
"Damn you people. Go back to your shanties." --- Shooter McGavin |
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Garrette
SFN Regular
USA
562 Posts |
Posted - 04/30/2002 : 08:29:00 [Permalink]
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"The Dirty Dozen" was on television the other night. I remember being a big fan of it as a kid.
I watched it this time with great fun until the actual mission at the end of the movie when I realized they were glamorizing what amounted to murder and war crimes.
I don't know my point; it just seemed relevant.
My kids still love me. |
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Bradley
Skeptic Friend
USA
147 Posts |
Posted - 05/06/2002 : 09:40:52 [Permalink]
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"Hey, Butthead, get that one! Heh heh heh!"
"Huh huh huh huh huh!"
"You idiots! You just bombed our allies!"
"Heh heh heh! Fire! Fire!"
"That was cool! Huh huh huh huh huh!"
"Too much doubt is better than too much credulity."
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Badger
Skeptic Friend
Canada
257 Posts |
Posted - 05/08/2002 : 21:47:43 [Permalink]
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Those guys who got whacked were from the PPCLI here in Edmonton (Princess Patricias Light Infantry).
Just so you know, the general feeling around here is that they died, fighting for what they believed in. The fact that it was friendly fire is not such a big deal. The guys from "my town" are digging up graves, going in caves, sniping, etc, and could get dead at any time. We know that, and they know that.
It's hard to explain the underlying sentiment in delicate terms so I'm just going to come right out with it. At least we're not getting killed by "them".
The comfort in that is that the west is such an overwhelming force that opposition is making almost no headway at all.
I feel for the families and the buddies, and the pilot. I'm also very glad more of us aren't dieing by "their" hand.
Know whut ah mean?
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