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@tomic
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Posted - 08/26/2002 :  23:03:48  Show Profile  Visit @tomic's Homepage Send @tomic a Private Message
The Kingdom of Saudi Arabia has aparantly seen fit to block SFN from being viewed in Saudi Arabia and in honor of that I respectfully blow a raspberry in Kinf Faud's direction. Not that he'll see. We're blocked!

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Snake
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USA
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Posted - 08/27/2002 :  02:03:54   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Snake's Homepage  Send Snake an ICQ Message  Send Snake a Yahoo! Message Send Snake a Private Message
quote:

The Kingdom of Saudi Arabia has aparantly seen fit to block SFN from being viewed in Saudi Arabia and in honor of that I respectfully blow a raspberry in Kinf Faud's direction. Not that he'll see. We're blocked!
@tomic

Too bad SFN is not 'Banned in Boston' also, more people would hear about it and want to view the site.
But congratulations anyway.

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PhDreamer
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USA
925 Posts

Posted - 08/27/2002 :  08:47:52   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit PhDreamer's Homepage Send PhDreamer a Private Message
I don't know whether to cheer or complain. Isn't Saudi Arabia supposed to be one of the more progressive middle-eastern monarchies? How did you find out anyway, @tomic? What other sites are blocked?


Generally speaking, the errors in religion are dangerous; those in philosophy only ridiculous.
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@tomic
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USA
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Posted - 08/27/2002 :  09:28:44   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit @tomic's Homepage Send @tomic a Private Message
You mean the King Faud Dictatorship Corporation? Progressive??? The entire country is behind a firewall that blocks whatever the government wants and we made that list. I found out because I provided some Snitz code for download and someone from Saudi Arabia told me this site's blocked and becuase I have read about their firewall etc i know that extends to everyone in the country. I'm not sure who else they block but considering our content in some areas I am not at all surprised.


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Lisa
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USA
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Posted - 08/27/2002 :  10:46:41   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Lisa a Private Message
Saudi Arabia progressive? <snicker>
They are terrified of new ideas. Anything that might upset the status quo is discouraged or outright banned. When I was there, I just couldn't freaking believe it. And entire culture where it seems that ignorance and stupidity are prized traits.

We have enough youth. We need a fountain of smart.
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@tomic
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Posted - 08/27/2002 :  11:28:20   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit @tomic's Homepage Send @tomic a Private Message
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And entire culture where it seems that ignorance and stupidity are prized traits.


Sigh. I wish it took a trip abroad to experience that.


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Physiofly
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USA
90 Posts

Posted - 08/27/2002 :  17:32:33   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Physiofly a Private Message
quote:
Isn't Saudi Arabia supposed to be one of the more progressive middle-eastern monarchies?


Remember this is the same country where school girls burned to death because they were not allowed out of their burning school. In their rush to not get burned they ran out without their veils. Since they were in obvious violation of Islamic law they were denied exit by their Allah-fearin' "rescuers."

"Progressive middle-eastern monarchies" isn't that an oxymoron?

"Men are so simple and so much inclined to obey immediate needs that a
deceiver will never lack victims for his deceptions." - Niccolo Machiavelli
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PhDreamer
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USA
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Posted - 08/27/2002 :  18:23:17   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit PhDreamer's Homepage Send PhDreamer a Private Message
Okay, okay. So maybe "progressive" isn't the correct word. But surely they are somewhat less, um, freedom-limited than their neighbors?


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DVF
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USA
96 Posts

Posted - 08/28/2002 :  10:40:42   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send DVF a Private Message
The saudi's are our trade partners. That pretty much sums up the cultural difference between them and their neighbors.

"Know what, if you were in a building, and it was on fire, I'd rescue you."
- My Son 3/5/2002
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Snake
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USA
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Posted - 08/28/2002 :  15:36:39   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Snake's Homepage  Send Snake an ICQ Message  Send Snake a Yahoo! Message Send Snake a Private Message
quote:

The entire country is behind a firewall that blocks whatever the government wants and we made that list.

That is just too weird. I never did trust computers or governments.
So that means that the govenment in the USA can also do and no doubt has done that? I would think.

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DVF
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USA
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Posted - 08/29/2002 :  08:08:36   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send DVF a Private Message
yes and no. For blocking to work there has to be a single data pipeline out of the country. Even in S.A. those who know how can get to what they want.

"Know what, if you were in a building, and it was on fire, I'd rescue you."
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Valiant Dancer
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USA
4826 Posts

Posted - 08/29/2002 :  09:50:18   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Valiant Dancer's Homepage Send Valiant Dancer a Private Message
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quote:
And entire culture where it seems that ignorance and stupidity are prized traits.


Sigh. I wish it took a trip abroad to experience that.


@tomic

Gravity, not just a good idea...it's the law!



One must be mindful that we are not talking about a Republic nor Democracy. We are talking about despotism. Despotism is not noted for freedoms nor religious tolerance.


Cthulu/Asmodeus, when you're tired of voting for the lesser of two evils.
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the_ignored
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Posted - 09/09/2002 :  01:34:04   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send the_ignored a Private Message
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Remember this is the same country where school girls burned to death because they were not allowed out of their burning school. In their rush to not get burned they ran out without their veils. Since they were in obvious violation of Islamic law they were denied exit by their Allah-fearin' "rescuers."


So, I guess that means then that I can call King Faud a "Limp d-cked f--ked up f--k head who spends his time kissing the a-ses of the people who'd rather see girls burn to death than violate All-ackk's "holy law" "and he wouldn't be able to see it?

Good grief, they put up with people being burned to death for not wearing some bloody veil, yet this website is too "harmful" for their people to view?

If I could get in contact with "His majesty", I'd bloody well tell it to him directly.

PS. Normally, I'd leave out profanity, but that incident really p---ed me off.

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The Bad Astronomer
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137 Posts

Posted - 09/09/2002 :  10:36:54   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit The Bad Astronomer's Homepage Send The Bad Astronomer a Private Message
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The Kingdom of Saudi Arabia has aparantly seen fit to block SFN from being viewed in Saudi Arabia


Out of curiosity, how did you find this out? I wonder if mine is blocked too...

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@tomic
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USA
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Posted - 09/09/2002 :  11:38:46   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit @tomic's Homepage Send @tomic a Private Message
I found out quite by accident when someone tried to download some custom Snitz Forums work I did from Saudi Arabia. The couldn't get to us so i had to email the material. What's even more interesting is that I found out the same way some US companies are blocking us. Other alternative religious sites get through. SFN does not get through

@tomic

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Chippewa
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USA
1496 Posts

Posted - 09/09/2002 :  13:33:11   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Chippewa's Homepage Send Chippewa a Private Message
I went to Google (which is banned in China) and entered "banned websites." Of course there's a lot of info, but several pages in I found this:

http://www.io.com/~vitale/ban/

I don't know anything about this source, but hope it helps.
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