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walt fristoe
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Posted - 02/21/2003 :  14:39:38   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send walt fristoe a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by Slater

It would seem that DA's infantile ploy of "Be nice the Jesus 'cause I wove him just like I wove my Mommy" fell flat. Now he's feigning amnesia.



I'm not entirely sure he's "feigning".

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darwin alogos
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Posted - 02/21/2003 :  15:52:36   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send darwin alogos a Private Message
Slater:
quote:

It would seem that DA's infantile ploy of "Be nice the Jesus 'cause I wove him just like I wove my Mommy" fell flat. Now
he's feigning amnesia.
This statement by Slater is in response to my
quote:


I'll make easy for you Slater,canyou name one point I've made that you have refuted? and I don't mean that tierd old
crap you pull of just ranting and raving "That DA is lying ect..."
Now since you couldn't list even one point that you claim to have refuted me on it seems your the one who has amnesia,or you've starting to finely becoming honest

To deny logic you must use it.To deny Jesus Existed you must throw away all your knowledge of the ancient world. To deny ID
you must refute all analogical reasoning. So the question is why deny?
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darwin alogos
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Posted - 02/21/2003 :  15:55:40   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send darwin alogos a Private Message
waltfristoe:
quote:
I'm not entirely sure he's "feigning".

Maybe your "feigning" that you found "historic blunders" in the NT.

To deny logic you must use it.To deny Jesus Existed you must throw away all your knowledge of the ancient world. To deny ID
you must refute all analogical reasoning. So the question is why deny?
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@tomic
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Posted - 02/21/2003 :  15:56:40   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit @tomic's Homepage Send @tomic a Private Message
quote:
Maybe your "feigning" that you found "historic blunders" in the NT.

Yup, DA's a liar all right.

@tomic

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darwin alogos
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Posted - 02/21/2003 :  23:18:50   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send darwin alogos a Private Message
Atomic:
quote:
Yup, DA's a liar all right.

@tomic
Sticks and stones will break my bones,but your lack of facts and Ad Hominems
fail to affect me. Atomic you are the master of the drive by all talk and no argument.

To deny logic you must use it.To deny Jesus Existed you must throw away all your knowledge of the ancient world. To deny ID
you must refute all analogical reasoning. So the question is why deny?
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Slater
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Posted - 02/21/2003 :  23:59:20   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Slater a Private Message
That's not an Ad Hominem. Your arguments aren't wrong because you are a terrible person. Your arguments aren't being seen in light of your lack of morals. Your lack of morals is being seen in the light of your arguments.
Your pathological lying will make any accurate statements you might, by chance, make in the future difficult to recognize but we'll worry about that if it ever happens.
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darwin alogos
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Posted - 02/22/2003 :  02:17:57   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send darwin alogos a Private Message
Slater:
quote:

Your pathological lying will make any accurate statements you might, by chance, make in the future difficult to
recognize but we'll worry about that if it ever happens.
Notice I already predicted your response Slater
quote:


I'll make easy for you Slater,canyou name one point I've made that you have refuted? And I don't mean that tierd old
crap you pull of just ranting and raving "That DA is lying ect..."

But also notice that you have yet to own up to your error( I suppose you "skeptics" would accuse it as Lying):
quote:

Slater:

quote:


The criticism with Josephus is that the sections that Mention Jesus are not authentic. It is not a criticism of Josephus
himself but of Christians who will lie through their teeth and invent evidence (much like you are in a habit of doing)

DA:
Slater you aren't even in the same area code.The criticism was,brought out by ConsequentAtheist concerning Massada,(
Masada: Literary Tradition, Archaeological Remains, and the Credibility of
Josephus,http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/religion/portrait/masada.html).Where in the world did you get
the idea it was anything else???

(ed for ref.)

To deny logic you must use it.To deny Jesus Existed you must throw away all your knowledge of the ancient world. To deny ID
you must refute all analogical reasoning. So the question is why deny?
Edited by - darwin alogos on 02/22/2003 02:30:56
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Slater
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Posted - 02/22/2003 :  11:53:05   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Slater a Private Message
Notice I already predicted your response Slater
My goodness, you predicted that if you lied you would be called on it. You must be magic.
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darwin alogos
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Posted - 02/22/2003 :  15:47:56   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send darwin alogos a Private Message
Slater:
quote:
My goodness, you predicted that if you lied you would be called on it. You must be magic.
For the record I predicted that all you ever do is whine that I lie,to which you never supply any evidence,and so far you didn't let me down And just what was it that I supposedly lied about?:
  • 1.That you were in error about Josephus?
  • 2.That since you can't refute my arguments you and your cronies would resort to name calling and accusing me of lying?
  • 3.That since you reject how secular Classical Historians do their business ,you and CA,walto have yet to provide an alternative criteria?

To deny logic you must use it.To deny Jesus Existed you must throw away all your knowledge of the ancient world. To deny ID
you must refute all analogical reasoning. So the question is why deny?
Edited by - darwin alogos on 02/22/2003 15:52:52
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darwin alogos
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Posted - 02/23/2003 :  11:03:52   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send darwin alogos a Private Message
quote:
ConsequentAtheist Posted - 02/21/2003 : 08:55:26
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quote:
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Originally posted by Slater

You are the site joke.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------Or, perhaps, a sick joke better ignored.

WellCA you may try and ignore me(because you sure can't refute me) but according to both the replies and folks who read them I'm #1 compared to your lame post that nobody reads(unlessI help you out and start posting there)
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To deny logic you must use it.To deny Jesus Existed you must throw away all your knowledge of the ancient world. To deny ID
you must refute all analogical reasoning. So the question is why deny?
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Dave W.
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Posted - 02/25/2003 :  10:44:55   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Dave W.'s Homepage Send Dave W. a Private Message
DA wrote:
quote:
I'll make easy for you Slater,canyou name one point I've made that you have refuted?
While looking for something else, I ran across this:

DA wrote, on 10/28/2001:
quote:
...The next point would be if the author is reliable concerning things we can check out why not trust him or her when he/she tells us about the existence and mission of Jesus?
This point was refuted several times, by Slater and others. And just because you ignored those refutations back then doesn't mean that they didn't occur.

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Starman
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Posted - 02/26/2003 :  00:53:39   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Starman a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by Slater

Notice I already predicted your response Slater
My goodness, you predicted that if you lied you would be called on it. You must be magic.



A fulfilled prophecy!!!

Halleluja!
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darwin alogos
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Posted - 02/26/2003 :  02:28:32   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send darwin alogos a Private Message
Dave W.:
quote:

DA wrote:

quote:

I'll make easy for you Slater,canyou name one point I've made that you have refuted?


While looking for something else, I ran across this:

DA wrote, on 10/28/2001:

quote:

...The next point would be if the author is reliable concerning things we can check out why not trust him or her when he/she tells
us about the existence and mission of Jesus?


This point was refuted several times, by Slater and others. And just because you ignored those refutations back then
doesn't mean that they didn't occur.

- Dave W.
Actually no one ever refuted my position (Did Jesus really exist),they disputed but not refuted.To refute means that evidence was proffered to counter my position,none was.Even if we grant,for arguments sake,Slater and Company their main premise "That the NT was infulenced by pagan myths",that doesn't ispo facto prove that Jesus didn't exist.The whole 5 incarnations of that thread can be summed up by the challenge I put to several of christ-mythers: Since you reject how Classical Historians evaluate historical documents,what criteria do you use to judge a historical documents reliability? As of today there has been response.

To deny logic you must use it.To deny Jesus Existed you must throw away all your knowledge of the ancient world. To deny ID
you must refute all analogical reasoning. So the question is why deny?
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darwin alogos
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Posted - 02/26/2003 :  02:32:03   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send darwin alogos a Private Message
Starman:
quote:
A fulfilled prophecy!!!
Since Slater seems to have difficulty citing one my alleged lies perhaps you would care to share? Or are you just an Atomic wannabe practicing your drive by skills?

To deny logic you must use it.To deny Jesus Existed you must throw away all your knowledge of the ancient world. To deny ID
you must refute all analogical reasoning. So the question is why deny?
Edited by - darwin alogos on 02/26/2003 02:33:28
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Dave W.
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Posted - 02/26/2003 :  05:13:11   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Dave W.'s Homepage Send Dave W. a Private Message
DA wrote:
quote:
Actually no one ever refuted my position...
In my opinion, they did, but that's beside the point. You demanded that Slater show you one point of yours which had been refuted. Your point that since the NT contains lots of verifiable data we should believe the unverifiable parts also was soundly refuted by referencing some examples of obvious historic fictions. You even called it a point in the post I referenced.

But this just goes to show that when you, DA, set up a challenge, and that challenge is met, you move the goalposts so that you 'win'. Instead of a point, you're now demanding evidence that someone refuted one of your positions. That's highly deceptive and dishonest. Does this count as me citing one of your lies, or are you going to move the goalposts on that challenge, also?

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