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darwin alogos
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 Posted - 02/18/2003 : 23:06:04 [Permalink]
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Slater: quote:
The criticism with Josephus is that the sections that Mention Jesus are not authentic. It is not a criticism of Josephus
himself but of Christians who will lie through their teeth and invent evidence (much like you are in a habit of doing)
Slater you aren't even in the same area code.The criticism was,brought out by ConsequentAtheist concerning Massada,( Masada: Literary Tradition, Archaeological Remains, and the Credibility of Josephus,http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/religion/portrait/masada.html).Where in the world did you get the idea it was anything else???
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To deny logic you must use it.To deny Jesus Existed you must throw away all your knowledge of the ancient world. To deny ID
you must refute all analogical reasoning. So the question is why deny? |
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darwin alogos
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Posted - 02/22/2003 : 02:34:23 [Permalink]
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The big difference is one of your fellow "Skeptics"(CA) pointed out a known historic blunder in Joe's writings and
another (Atomic) claimed if a historian wasn't 100% accurate they were "unreilable".Again do you share their
conclusions? As for me I share the view on this cite(http://centuryone.com/josephus.html) which in a nutshell states:
quote:
This duality of sharp criticism alongside fulsome appreciation
has consistently accompanied the scholarly treatment of
Josephus' works. It has not been our intention here to prove
that he is always exact of correct in every statement, but to
show that his data are in many instances accurate, and that they
stem from reliable sources to which he had access from the
very beginning of his literary career.
The reason I ask is because it seems rather odd,for you as a "skeptic", to quote a "known" source which addmitedly has
"historical blunders" in order to attempt to prove "blunders" in another source,The NT.
Well walto are just going to let Slater do your talking for you or do you just conceed? |
To deny logic you must use it.To deny Jesus Existed you must throw away all your knowledge of the ancient world. To deny ID
you must refute all analogical reasoning. So the question is why deny? |
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walt fristoe
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Posted - 02/22/2003 : 11:21:18 [Permalink]
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quote:
Originally posted by Darwin Alogos
Well walto are just going to let Slater do your talking for you or do you just conceed?
Well, Derwin, I just didn't want to hog the conversation. |
"If God chose George Bus of all the people in the world, how good could God be?"
Bill Maher |
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walt fristoe
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Posted - 02/22/2003 : 11:49:17 [Permalink]
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quote:
originally posted by Darwin Alogos
6. Do you know the difference between a building(s) and a wall?
Yes, I do. A wall (in this case) used to be part of a building; a building that is no longer supposed to have any stones left on top of other stones. Since the wall is still there, I think some stones must still be on top of other stones. Would you disagree?  |
"If God chose George Bus of all the people in the world, how good could God be?"
Bill Maher |
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darwin alogos
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Posted - 02/22/2003 : 16:07:50 [Permalink]
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waltfristoe: quote:
Yes, I do. A wall (in this case) used to be part of a building; a building that is no longer supposed to have any stones left on top of other stones. Since the wall is still there, I think some stones must still be on top of other stones. Would you disagree?
How sad it must be when the only so called proof is built on the fallacy of equivocation  Secular historians don't quite see it the same way walto:quote:
When the Romans crushed the Jewish Revolt and destroyed Jerusalem in A.D. 70, they razed the temple to the ground. While nothing remains of the temple itself, large portions of the enclosure walls still remain. The most famous remnants are the lower portions of the Western Wall, sometimes known as the Wailing Wall. It is a holy place for Jews, who insert prayers between the Herodian stones and mourn the loss of the temple so many centuries ago. (emph.mine taken from ancienthisory.com )(ed for ref. http://ancienthistory.about.com/library/prm/blkingherod3.htm?terms=herod%27s+temple)
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To deny logic you must use it.To deny Jesus Existed you must throw away all your knowledge of the ancient world. To deny ID
you must refute all analogical reasoning. So the question is why deny? |
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