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Cold in here
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Canada
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 Posted - 06/12/2003 : 15:51:22 [Permalink]
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| You would not be offended if someone accused you of being in need of psychiatric care because of who you love? |
Toronto is the capital of Canada, and I live in a giant igloo. Blubber anyone? |
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Fireballn
Skeptic Friend
Canada
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Posted - 06/12/2003 : 16:07:23 [Permalink]
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Slater has a right to his opinion. That doesn't make him phobic or a Nazi. I hate terrorists I would love for them all to leave my country and die horrible deaths. Does this mean secretly I'm a terrorist?
Do I have terrorist thoughts and feelings, because I'am uncomfortable with terrorist acts? |
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Gorgo
SFN Die Hard
USA
5310 Posts |
Posted - 06/12/2003 : 17:35:49 [Permalink]
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| Slater is of the opinion that his need to feel what he calls disgust is of importance to any of us. If you hate and feel disgust about something, that tells me more about you than the thing you hate or disgust. Otherwise it's pretty much irrelevant. |
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The dog has not been fed in years
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@tomic
Administrator
USA
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Posted - 06/12/2003 : 18:23:56 [Permalink]
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I'm surprised to see the word deviant used in this topic because it is so judgemental. Being a judgemental term, why be surprised when people jump on you? You are calling something you don't agree with wrong and don't get it when people are offended by that. You don't have to agree with the gay lifestyle but one shouldn't be surprised when that is challenged. I also don't see the connection you made with these people being skeptics after the inflammatory comments you made.
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Kil
Evil Skeptic
USA
13477 Posts |
Posted - 06/12/2003 : 20:01:58 [Permalink]
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| I think we may have discovered something that Slater and fundamentalist Christians agree on. It sort of warms my heart to acknowledge that people, who's views differ so, can see eye to eye once in a while... Group Hug...!!! |
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Cold in here
New Member
Canada
48 Posts |
Posted - 06/12/2003 : 20:04:39 [Permalink]
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Toronto is the capital of Canada, and I live in a giant igloo. Blubber anyone? |
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Cold in here
New Member
Canada
48 Posts |
Posted - 06/12/2003 : 20:08:50 [Permalink]
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 I'm sorry for calling Slater an asshole, a nazi, and a closet homosexual. I didn't mean to hurt anyone, and I was (and am) deeply offended by some of the things said, but this gives me no right resort to such childish and unfounded claims. I regret the things which may have been said, and feelings which may have been hurt. Perhaps we may agree to disagree, and next time you deal with a homosexual, try not to immediately dismiss him/her as simply a freak of nature or someone in need of psychiatric assistance. |
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Slater
SFN Regular
USA
1668 Posts |
Posted - 06/12/2003 : 23:04:17 [Permalink]
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Obviously you have not been involved in the REAL world for quite some time.
No, I live in San Francisco where the large gay population has greatly adversely affected the quality of life for the rest of the inhabitants.
Homosexuality has long been scratched from the list of mental disorders.
The statement which the AMA made was that because of the political volatility of the issue they were not going to offer an opinion on whether or not homosexuality were a mental illness.
The death threats to three board members by gay radicals were never mentioned. Nor was it ever declared that it was not a mental illness although advocates insist as presenting the AMA's lack of offered opinion as inferring that.
You can't just throw someone into a 'hospital for the mentally queer' and expect them to pop out being straight.
There are cures for very few mental illnesses. Because it isn't curable doesn't make it any less of an affliction.
Most scientists agree that it is most likely a biological/chemical condition during birth which affects sexual orientation.
Which would make it a birth defect.
What would you suggest then, injections to cure people of this horrible infliction?
Were there such injections, of course.
I have not for some time heard of anyone so ignorant and old-fashioned as you are.
I hear about Politically Correct Nazis like you all the time.
If you actually spent two minutes looking at the world, you'd see that one in ten people is gay.
And you could give similar statistics with many illnesses. I'm sure that clinical depression has even more victims than homosexuality has. Perhaps you think that they shouldn't be cured either?
Don't forget homosexuality in the animal kingdom; are animals retarded too?
Animals have defects and illnesses just as we humans do. And no one said that homosexuals were retarded. They aren't necessarily stupid, just delusional.
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Slater
SFN Regular
USA
1668 Posts |
Posted - 06/12/2003 : 23:14:09 [Permalink]
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Perhaps we may agree to disagree, and next time you deal with a homosexual, try not to immediately dismiss him/her as simply a freak of nature or someone in need of psychiatric assistance.
It is interesting how many things are being attributed to me that I never said.
Dismiss them? When is realizing that a fellow human being needs help dismissing them?
Freak of nature, is that how you see people with mental illness? Shame on you.
And shame on you again for promoting the stigma of mental illness. As though the mentally ill were less human. That you should ignore their illness and play along with their delusions is not going to help them.
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Snake
SFN Addict
USA
2511 Posts |
Posted - 06/12/2003 : 23:52:13 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by Slater
I'm not the least bit phobic. I'm not afraid of them, only disgusted by their behavior. Though it is nice to know that I cannot express an opinion without name calling starting instantly. And you call yourselves "Skeptics." How many more cliches can you come up with? When did the definition of Liberal become "narrow minded/party line"?
And why are you so threatened that you can't remain civil?
Hey! Slater, I agree with you. Opinions are only opinions.
Sometimes people can sound like hysterical whinny women when they, to be polite let's say...missunderstand what's being stated. |
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Snake
SFN Addict
USA
2511 Posts |
Posted - 06/12/2003 : 23:54:39 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by Fireballn
Cold you are off on this one. Slater expressed his opinion, you took offence to that, then you assumed a whole bunch of bullshit about Slater. That, I might add, you know absolutely nothing about.
What I can't stand is the PC bullshit that goes along with this topic. "Here comes the MTV generation......don't want to offend anyone......go do what ever the hell you want."-just a bunch of sheep.
Right ON! Fire.
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Snake
SFN Addict
USA
2511 Posts |
Posted - 06/13/2003 : 00:01:51 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by Gorgo
Slater is of the opinion that his need to feel what he calls disgust is of importance to any of us. If you hate and feel disgust about something, that tells me more about you than the thing you hate or disgust. Otherwise it's pretty much irrelevant.
Gorgo, that's a pretty good observation. In fact it's kind of what I've tried to say in other words. Opinions are really all that this world has. The way things are, are in the eye of the beholder on every level, government, social, etc.
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NottyImp
Skeptic Friend
United Kingdom
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Posted - 06/13/2003 : 03:27:09 [Permalink]
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"There are cures for very few mental illnesses. Because it isn't curable doesn't make it any less of an affliction."
On what basis do you make this assumption, Slater? How do you decide which human behaviours are "an affliction" and which are not? I'm just interested to know.
And don't call people for insulting you when you say things like:
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I hear about Politically Correct Nazis like you all the time
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Gorgo
SFN Die Hard
USA
5310 Posts |
Posted - 06/13/2003 : 03:33:41 [Permalink]
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What is politically correct exactly? Doesn't that mean to work together with people rather than fighting each other all the time and insulting each other? Doesn't it mean to realize that we all have our faults and that our differences are often a good thing?
If Slater wants to spend his days being disgusted by reasonable behavior and glorifying insane behavior, then yes, that's his business. But don't tell me that it's a mindset that should be held up as a good example. |
I know the rent is in arrears
The dog has not been fed in years
It's even worse than it appears
But it's alright-
Jerry Garcia
Robert Hunter
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NottyImp
Skeptic Friend
United Kingdom
143 Posts |
Posted - 06/13/2003 : 03:50:16 [Permalink]
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I suppose on these kinds of issues I'm a libertarian. If mutually consenting adults choose to do something that doesn't hurt me, why should I care? It used to be called "live and let live".
I'd need some pretty close reasoning to explain to me what right I would have to break this rule and interfer with people's private lives, and I don't see that forthcoming from Slater. |
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