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Snake
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Posted - 08/07/2003 :  09:24:50   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Snake's Homepage  Send Snake an ICQ Message  Send Snake a Yahoo! Message Send Snake a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by Trish
Proof Snake, proof. Let's see the photos, undoctored mind you, I'll run them through Photoshop - and I'm very good at what I do with graphics.


1st of all, I'm a real photographer. None of that eletronic crap for me. I don't know how to use Photoshop that well anyway.

You know they are crafty little devils, don't like to be seen. But I'll do my best. I have a 300 lenz and can hide in the bushes.
Will get back to you on that.
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wonkavision
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Posted - 08/08/2003 :  12:25:15   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send wonkavision a Private Message
I'm flexible on vitriolic. How do you feel about mordant? I like the term; I feel it subtler and a little less impactful than vitriolic. Some other possibilities: acidulous, trenchant, acerbic. All leave wiggle room for a more a flattering interpretation of a caustic tone.

"Thank you. I was rather fond of the reference to "disjoint domains."

Why, it is an admirable choice of words, Consequent. The dual meaning of "disconnected" and being "in a dilemma" is well-expressed, and the alliteration ties it up in a nice little package.

"That is correct. The agnosticism of the Fideist, Deist or Daoist excludes the methodological layer argued by Huxley. It nevertheless asserts that the Supernatural is unknowable. Such agnosticism is further removed from methodological naturalism than Huxley's, but it's agnosticism none the less."


I infer that the "supernatural being unknowable" suggests different consequences to the theist than to the agnostic by virtue of their respective definitions. The theist says "the supernatural is unknowable," meaning transcendent to the material and to reason. The theist also places equal and oftentimes greater value on faith as he does on evidence. Huxley's implication was clearly that he challenged such a degree of conviction in the unkowable or unknown. It is true that his term may have been commandeered by a special brand of theists, one for instance that asserts, while accepting the scientific method, that any belief system based entirely upon reason is incomplete, but this is incompatible with Huxley's intent-

"...do not pretend that conclusions are certain which are not demonstrated or demonstrable."

"That it is wrong for a man to say he is certain of the objective truth of a proposition unless he can provide evidence which logically justifies that certainty. This is what agnosticism asserts and in my opinion, is all that is essential to agnosticism."


which, especially being so recent in history, I believe still stands, the dynamics of language notwithstanding. The linguistic connections between Fideism, Skepticism and Agnosticism are interesting and important, but ultimately I think Huxley stands solidly in favour of reason over the credence of transcendental knowledge or "gnosticism," when he uses the the term "agnostic."

So shy a good deed in such a weary world...
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ConsequentAtheist
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Posted - 08/09/2003 :  19:29:58   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send ConsequentAtheist a Private Message
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Originally posted by wonkavision

I'm flexible on vitriolic. How do you feel about mordant?
Good.
quote:
Originally posted by wonkavision

... I think Huxley stands solidly in favour of reason over the credence of transcendental knowledge or "gnosticism," when he uses the the term "agnostic."
So do I.

For the philosophical naturalist, the rejection of supernaturalism is a case of "death by a thousand cuts." -- Barbara Forrest, Ph.D.
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mr. who
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Posted - 09/08/2003 :  13:23:54   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send mr. who a Private Message
when i die should i wear my red shoes or my blue ones will any one care. Edith bunker

Mr. Blue
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