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filthy
SFN Die Hard
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 Posted - 08/21/2003 : 09:06:52
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....move the fucking thing, now!
http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dyn/A25723-2003Aug21?language=printer
Will he or will he not? Today's the deadline.
I put this in politics because it looks like religion is no longer involved except on the side; rather like a nice piece of limburger to enhance the taste of a choice cut of filet de opossum (actually, 'possum ain't half bad and I love limburger cheese. I also love the way this story's going down).
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"What luck for rulers that men do not think." -- Adolf Hitler (1889 - 1945)
"If only we could impeach on the basis of criminal stupidity, 90% of the Rethuglicans and half of the Democrats would be thrown out of office." ~~ P.Z. Myres
"The default position of human nature is to punch the other guy in the face and take his stuff." ~~ Dude
Brother Boot Knife of Warm Humanitarianism,
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Valiant Dancer
Forum Goalie
USA
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 Posted - 08/21/2003 : 10:59:31 [Permalink]
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quote:
Originally posted by filthy
....move the fucking thing, now!
http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dyn/A25723-2003Aug21?language=printer
Will he or will he not? Today's the deadline.
I put this in politics because it looks like religion is no longer involved except on the side; rather like a nice piece of limburger to enhance the taste of a choice cut of filet de opossum (actually, 'possum ain't half bad and I love limburger cheese. I also love the way this story's going down).
Roy said "fuck you".
The rest of the justices said "no, Roy, fuck you".
The US Supreme Court said, "we ain't getting in this fucking shit."
http://www.msnbc.com/news/954934.asp?0cv=CB10
He may be held in contempt. |
Cthulhu/Asmodeus when you're tired of voting for the lesser of two evils
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Randy
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1990 Posts |
Posted - 08/21/2003 : 13:45:28 [Permalink]
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Culled from my local Atheist list. Enjoy!
From THE APOTHEOSIS OF ST. ROY THE ARROGANT
1:1 And lo, it came to pass in those days that in the
land of Alabama, south of the Mason-Dixon line and
just over the hill from the yum-yum tree, there rose a
mightly warrior of our Lord.
1:2 Roy Moore was he called, and unto him was given
the name of Roy, for his parents liked not the names
Murray or Phil.
1:3 And it came to pass that Roy didst come into great
power in this land, for unto him was given the
leadership of the highest court of all Alabama.
1:4 Thou hast unto you a great responsibility, sayeth
the rulers of this great land of Alabama, for we are
but part of a much greater land called America. Great
is this mighty land, for not only doth it have many
more yum-yum trees than our fine and beauteous
Alabama, it hath also a fair and just Constitution.
1:5 Constitution? What's that? asketh Roy, for he was
sore confused.
1:6 It is none less than the laws of all America,
sayeth the rulers of this great land of Alabama,
promising equality to all, and preferential treatment
for none, regardless of race, sex, or religion.
1:7 Not even religion? asketh Roy.
1:8 Nope, sayeth the leaders.
1:9 And Roy was sore aggrieved, for he did believe it
was his God-given mandate to use his great
governmental power to compel all those under his sway
to adhere to the worship of the Lord. I'll show them,
Roy didst say unto himself, such was the depth of his
indignation.
1:10 And thus Roy didst post the Commandments of the
Lord above his bench, and those who understood the
words of the Constitution were sore afflicted.
1:11 They ain't seen nothin' yet, Roy didst think to
himself. And it came to pass that, under the cover of
darkness, Roy and many cohorts also enamored of the
Lord stole into the judicial building and placed a
monument to the Commandments weighing many tons smack
dab in the middle of the floor.
1:12 And when this perfidy was revealed, many across
the great land of America who value the separation of
church and state didst go apeshit, and phone their
lawyers.
1:13 And it came to pass that Roy was commanded to
remove this monument. Take down this monument! he was
commanded.
1:14 I shall defy you, sayeth Roy. I answer not to
your laws, but to our Lord.
1:15 Take down this monument! commanded the appellate
courts.
1:16 Bite me, sayeth Roy.
1:17 But the courts would not relent, and nor would
Roy, and a great battle ensued, and there was a
wailing and gnashing of teeth. For Roy had spoken,
that he was above the Constitution, above the laws of
America, and should he be crucified upon the cross as
was our blessed Jesus, then all the better for him, as
he would ascend unto Heaven a marytr for the Lord, and
perhaps even someday have a holiday named after him
and everything. For when one obeyeth the Lord, one
needeth answer only to the Lord, and fie! upon these
foolish laws of men. Amen.
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To be continued....
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"So you're made of detritus [from exploded stars]. Get over it. Or better yet, celebrate it. After all, what nobler thought can one cherish than that the universe lives within us all?"
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Randy
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1990 Posts |
Posted - 08/21/2003 : 14:08:36 [Permalink]
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| Oh, about the monument in the Alabama Judicial Building? I think it's time to call for the Holy Hand Grenade! |
"We are all connected; to each other biologically, to the earth chemically, to the rest of the universe atomically."
"So you're made of detritus [from exploded stars]. Get over it. Or better yet, celebrate it. After all, what nobler thought can one cherish than that the universe lives within us all?"
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filthy
SFN Die Hard
USA
14408 Posts |
Posted - 08/21/2003 : 14:45:31 [Permalink]
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quote:
Originally posted by Randy
Oh, about the monument in the Alabama Judicial Building? I think it's time to call for the Holy Hand Grenade!
As it happens, one skill I aquired, and was quite good at, in the military was demolitions.
How many pieces do you want it in?
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"What luck for rulers that men do not think." -- Adolf Hitler (1889 - 1945)
"If only we could impeach on the basis of criminal stupidity, 90% of the Rethuglicans and half of the Democrats would be thrown out of office." ~~ P.Z. Myres
"The default position of human nature is to punch the other guy in the face and take his stuff." ~~ Dude
Brother Boot Knife of Warm Humanitarianism,
and Crypto-Communist!
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Randy
SFN Regular
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1990 Posts |
Posted - 08/21/2003 : 16:04:57 [Permalink]
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Granite dust would be just about right.
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"We are all connected; to each other biologically, to the earth chemically, to the rest of the universe atomically."
"So you're made of detritus [from exploded stars]. Get over it. Or better yet, celebrate it. After all, what nobler thought can one cherish than that the universe lives within us all?"
-Neil DeGrasse Tyson |
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Fireballn
Skeptic Friend
Canada
179 Posts |
Posted - 08/21/2003 : 16:14:53 [Permalink]
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Ok..........different slant. I can see the monument being moved because 'why can't every religion put their crap all over government buildings.' I can see this.
But why stop there?
Change the Declaration of Independence, there is some God talk in there. Might affend.
Change the money......people around the civil war time liked the phrase 'In God we Trust' that has got to go.
Change the national anthem........Star spangled banner, last few verses (extended version)...."God Bless America"---self evident.
Change the pledge of allegiance...under who? that's out.
and so on......
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If i were the supreme being, I wouldn't have messed around with butterflies and daffodils. I would have started with lasers 8 o'clock day one!
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Randy
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1990 Posts |
Posted - 08/21/2003 : 16:53:36 [Permalink]
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The god thingy should had never been put in our country's pledge back in the 50's, along with the "In god We Trust". Commie cold war and McCarthyism hysteria was rampant, - early fifties. Change it back to what it was, "One Nation, Indivisible", and the motto back to "E Pluribus Unum" (One From Many). Everyone is included then.
The "In #$% We Trust" has come and gone from monies beginning around the Civil War.
My guess is the courts will decide. The national motto is outright discriminating, infers second class citizenship of any who differ.
Here in Texas, our fundie govenor signed legislation requiring all public school student to say the pledge of allegience to the U.S. flag, say the ????Texas pledge of allegience????, and have a minute of silence each day. Problems, problems, problems. Lawsuits are being prepared.
Who/what fuckin' god(s) are we talking about, anyway?
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"We are all connected; to each other biologically, to the earth chemically, to the rest of the universe atomically."
"So you're made of detritus [from exploded stars]. Get over it. Or better yet, celebrate it. After all, what nobler thought can one cherish than that the universe lives within us all?"
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Fireballn
Skeptic Friend
Canada
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Posted - 08/21/2003 : 17:06:28 [Permalink]
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| I dunno what god(s), but it seems to me your country's founded on one....but even God knows better than to mess with Texas. |
If i were the supreme being, I wouldn't have messed around with butterflies and daffodils. I would have started with lasers 8 o'clock day one!
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Dave W.
Info Junkie
USA
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Posted - 08/21/2003 : 18:38:33 [Permalink]
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Fireballn wrote:quote:
I dunno what god(s), but it seems to me your country's founded on one....
Right, just like everyone knows that in Canada, everybody lives in igloos. |
- Dave W. (Private Msg, EMail)
Evidently, I rock!
Why not question something for a change?
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Fireballn
Skeptic Friend
Canada
179 Posts |
Posted - 08/21/2003 : 18:55:43 [Permalink]
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Hey don't get me wrong, we have similiar issues to solve ourselves. For instance there was a Christmas tree set up in parliment and some group got upset, so they kept the tree and renamed it the friendship, or multi-cultural tree, or some damn thing. PC gone retarded.
OH and Dave, Igloos? Yeah if you're lucky..........not everyone's loaded. |
If i were the supreme being, I wouldn't have messed around with butterflies and daffodils. I would have started with lasers 8 o'clock day one!
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filthy
SFN Die Hard
USA
14408 Posts |
Posted - 08/21/2003 : 21:05:09 [Permalink]
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It is now just a bit after midnight. I have checked the news and as far as I can decern, the Rock of Gibber remains in the good judge's place of business.
YOU GO, ROY!!! Hang in there, bro! Don't let the bastards grind you down!
With any luck at all, this will keep us amused for weeks.
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"What luck for rulers that men do not think." -- Adolf Hitler (1889 - 1945)
"If only we could impeach on the basis of criminal stupidity, 90% of the Rethuglicans and half of the Democrats would be thrown out of office." ~~ P.Z. Myres
"The default position of human nature is to punch the other guy in the face and take his stuff." ~~ Dude
Brother Boot Knife of Warm Humanitarianism,
and Crypto-Communist!
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Randy
SFN Regular
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1990 Posts |
Posted - 08/21/2003 : 21:41:35 [Permalink]
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I just hate to see this fuel the fire of the fanatical fundies, which it is already doing. Worse case scenario down the road would be a constitutional amendment weakening church/state separation. Our fundie president, Mr. Potatohead, who keeps a dashboard jesus bobbing on Air Force One, will get the ball rolling.
Remember the fifties and Congress shoving god down our throats, -- we have it like a plague on our motto, pledge, monies. Kids forced to say they believe in some god. What next?
Intelligent Design is trying to molest our children at school.
Gaack! - we're slowing going to turn into a nation of drooling, foot-draggin' jeezus zombie zipperheads!
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"We are all connected; to each other biologically, to the earth chemically, to the rest of the universe atomically."
"So you're made of detritus [from exploded stars]. Get over it. Or better yet, celebrate it. After all, what nobler thought can one cherish than that the universe lives within us all?"
-Neil DeGrasse Tyson |
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walt fristoe
SFN Regular
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Posted - 08/22/2003 : 10:17:24 [Permalink]
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| I see this fiasco in Alabama shaping up into a real religious war. Those fundies don't give a **** about the rule of law, and they will not take no for an answer. The other eight judges that ruled against Moore will be in grave danger for the next several months, at least, as will the attorney general of Al. But at least the thing will be covered up, and subsequently moved somewhere else. Maybe Moore could put "Roy's Rock" on his lawn and make a fountain out of it; that's about all it's good for! |
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the_ignored
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Posted - 08/22/2003 : 13:46:07 [Permalink]
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Religious war may be right, get a load of how these clowns are bitching about it...
http://www.rr-bb.com/showthread.php?s=179e2b9f0a20275bcc39002e5f5f161b&threadid=102649
or see the the stuff on this post, (and on the thread before this post!)
http://www.rr-bb.com/showthread.php?postid=1117203#post1117203
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Looks like Alabama will be paying penalties for some time. Guess I can vote NO on the Increase in Property Tax Agenda and send mine to Judge Moore. Don't you know this burns the political figures and judges up??? This is really going to get interesting. As someone posted earlier, this is a turning point for America and for Christians to really take a stand for their beliefs. Else, they will be taken away by the legal system just like in times past. (Ex Prayer In School)
What shit. Only MANDATORY prayer was taken out. Not voluntary prayer! Why the hell do they refuse to see the distinction??
This is from the first post on the above thread: (note how favorably the others there comment on this statement!)
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In a speech on Thursday, Moore argued that blind obedience to "this so-called rule of law" would have allowed slavery to continue.
Speaking on NBC's Today show Friday morning, Justice Moore said he does believe in the justice system and he does believe people should obey the higher court -- "except when that higher court is not going by law. That makes them lawless. And they're not following the rule of the law. The law is, clearly, is the Constitution of the United States, the First Amendment, and the Preamble; and the Constitution of Alabama, both of which acknowledge God.
"We're in a situation in this country where judges are telling us what to think and who to believe in and they simply can't do that," he said.
"The judicial system in America has trampled true justice and nullified genuine liberty," Benham agreed.
Benham said federal judge Myron Thompson "is in contempt of the court which is truly supreme -- the Court of Almighty God."
In his statement, Benham criticized the U.S Supreme Court and other federal courts for trying to "erase the name of Jesus from the hearts of our children, our schools our work places, and the public square."
He said believers in Jesus Christ "will resist them."
Hats off to "Heracles" though,
http://www.rr-bb.com/showthread.php?postid=1117322#post1117322
He brings some common sense there.
I'd like to post, but as you may remember, I got banned over a year ago! (See my thread: "If I can't post there, I'll post here") |
>From: enuffenuff@fastmail.fm
(excerpt follows):
> I'm looking to teach these two bastards a lesson they'll never forget.
> Personal visit by mates of mine. No violence, just a wee little chat.
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> **** has also committed more crimes than you can count with his
> incitement of hatred against a religion. That law came in about 2007
> much to ****'s ignorance. That is fact and his writing will become well
> know as well as him becoming a publicly known icon of hatred.
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> Good luck with that fuckwit. And Reynold, fucking run, and don't stop.
> Disappear would be best as it was you who dared to attack me on my
> illness knowing nothing of the cause. You disgust me and you are top of
> the list boy. Again, no violence. Just regular reminders of who's there
> and visits to see you are behaving. Nothing scary in reality. But I'd
> still disappear if I was you.
What brought that on? this. Original posting here.
Another example of this guy's lunacy here. |
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the_ignored
SFN Addict
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Posted - 08/22/2003 : 13:48:33 [Permalink]
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You know, maybe it's NOT so bad living in Canada after all...
http://www.rr-bb.com/showthread.php?s=179e2b9f0a20275bcc39002e5f5f161b&threadid=103052 |
>From: enuffenuff@fastmail.fm
(excerpt follows):
> I'm looking to teach these two bastards a lesson they'll never forget.
> Personal visit by mates of mine. No violence, just a wee little chat.
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> **** has also committed more crimes than you can count with his
> incitement of hatred against a religion. That law came in about 2007
> much to ****'s ignorance. That is fact and his writing will become well
> know as well as him becoming a publicly known icon of hatred.
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> Good luck with that fuckwit. And Reynold, fucking run, and don't stop.
> Disappear would be best as it was you who dared to attack me on my
> illness knowing nothing of the cause. You disgust me and you are top of
> the list boy. Again, no violence. Just regular reminders of who's there
> and visits to see you are behaving. Nothing scary in reality. But I'd
> still disappear if I was you.
What brought that on? this. Original posting here.
Another example of this guy's lunacy here. |
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