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Randy
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http://www.365gay.com/newscontent/100303phelpsMemorial.htm
Phelps To Erect Matthew Shepard Monument
Casper, Wyoming Anti-gay preacher Fred Phelps has announced intentions to erect a monument to Matthew Shepard the gay college student brutally murdered five years ago near Laramie.
But, the monument will be no memorial. Phelps says the monument would be 5 to 6 feet tall and made of marble or granite. It would bear a bronze plaque bearing the image of Shepard and have an inscription reading "MATTHEW SHEPARD, Entered Hell October 12, 1998, in Defiance of God's Warning: 'Thou shalt not lie with mankind as with womankind; it is abomination.' Leviticus 18:22."
The monument would be erected in downtown Casper, Shepard's home town.
Phelps has sent details of the monument to the city of Casper city council, and there may be nothing the city can do to prevent it.
Phelps said he intends to put up the monument in City Park, already the location of a controversial statue of the Ten Commandments.
The Ten Commandments statue was donated to the city by the Fraternal Order of the Eagles in 1965.
After a court battle over a similar monument in the city of Ogden, the 10th Circuit Court of Appeals ruled that any city that displays a Ten Commandments monument on public property must also allow monuments espousing the views of other religions or political groups on that same property.
Phelps told Casper council in his letter that if it attempts to prevent him from erecting the homophobic monument he's prepared to go to court.
"That is exactly what I said would happen," said Councilwoman Barb Watters. She said she warned the city when it accepted the Ten Commandments statue that the city risked other monuments advocating anti-Semitism and hatred of other minorities.
"I think the hate language will find a very cold reception in this community," councilor Paul Bertoglio said. "I think this community's backbone is going to come up and say 'We are not going to accept it."'
The city council is looking at several options: one is fighting Phelps in court, another is moving the Ten Commandments out of the park, and yet another proposal would be to sell the land the park is on.
Phelps says he doesn't care what the city decides. If he is unable to put the statue in City Park he said he will find another location in the city.
During Shepard's funeral members of Phelps' Westoboro Baptist Church demonstrated in front of the chapel.
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I came across this link at a local Atheist site, with this rather salient point following,
"Wow. I never thought I'd see this. It took scum like
Phelps to show people exactly what is wrong with
mounting 10 Commandments monuments in public land. The
other shoe has dropped. Astounding."
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"We are all connected; to each other biologically, to the earth chemically, to the rest of the universe atomically."
"So you're made of detritus [from exploded stars]. Get over it. Or better yet, celebrate it. After all, what nobler thought can one cherish than that the universe lives within us all?"
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filthy
SFN Die Hard
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Posted - 10/05/2003 : 07:44:37 [Permalink]
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Ah yes, Medicore Fred. He's really gone and mixed his meds on this one. Who writes his prescriptions, anyway? Dr. Mengele?
I don't think it's gonna fly. Even if he does manage to get this obscene eyesore in place, monument vandalism might become a community sport. It is one thing to dispise certain people and say so, that's freedom, but quite another to glorify hatred.
But, there might be a plus side to it. It might help get rid of a few chunks of religious granite scattered here & there, on public property.
Freddy is just so enthusiastic! I'd like to attend one of his services someday, just to hear him rave and watch the spittle run down his chin.
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"What luck for rulers that men do not think." -- Adolf Hitler (1889 - 1945)
"If only we could impeach on the basis of criminal stupidity, 90% of the Rethuglicans and half of the Democrats would be thrown out of office." ~~ P.Z. Myres
"The default position of human nature is to punch the other guy in the face and take his stuff." ~~ Dude
Brother Boot Knife of Warm Humanitarianism,
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Renae
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Posted - 10/05/2003 : 08:54:31 [Permalink]
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Phelps is a caricature of himself. 
How dare he use the tragic death of a young, innocent man to further his narrow, bigoted, punititive, twisted, nearly-sadistic view of the world?
Another example of a Christian who chooses righteousness over compassion and judgment over tolerance. Barf.
Maybe Phelps could look up the concept of the "Just world phenomenon". The world isn't a just place. In fact, sometimes it's tragicaly unfair. Just ask Matthew Shepard's parents. |
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Tim
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Posted - 10/06/2003 : 03:26:34 [Permalink]
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Who ever said Christians were moral people? Oh! That was Christians, wasn't it?
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"We got an issue in America. Too many good docs are gettin' out of business. Too many OB/GYNs aren't able to practice their -- their love with women all across this country." Dubya in Poplar Bluff, Missouri, 9/6/2004
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furshur
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Posted - 10/06/2003 : 06:04:34 [Permalink]
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People like Phelps makes me wish there was a Hell. That way when Phelps went the Pearly Gates, God would kick his ass and slam dunk him into hell like Mike slam-dunking a basketball.
Of all of the horrors in the world why would he choose Gays as the ultimate evil? I truly believe the only reason that makes sense is that he has guilt from his on desires for men. |
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Randy
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Posted - 10/06/2003 : 14:21:58 [Permalink]
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Phelps suffers from penis envy?
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"We are all connected; to each other biologically, to the earth chemically, to the rest of the universe atomically."
"So you're made of detritus [from exploded stars]. Get over it. Or better yet, celebrate it. After all, what nobler thought can one cherish than that the universe lives within us all?"
-Neil DeGrasse Tyson |
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filthy
SFN Die Hard
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Posted - 10/06/2003 : 17:14:06 [Permalink]
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quote:
Originally posted by Randy
Phelps suffers from penis envy?
Perhaps. The question is: Whose penis might it be? Hmm. Jesus's? As I recall, that one didn't get a lot of night work. And Jesus, figuretivly, got a serious fucking at the end of the story. Nope, can't be that one.
Maybe a more recent penis. Jerry Falwell's? Naw. Most likely he can't find it for his belly being in the way. Hmm. I know! Christine Jorgenson's! And it's avalible, too. No, wait a minute. That one's pretty decomposed at this late date, as is Christine. Not very enviable at all
Hmph. It can't be mine; I've got a dose of the clap.
It appears that we might have another of society's great, asinine mystries here. 
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"What luck for rulers that men do not think." -- Adolf Hitler (1889 - 1945)
"If only we could impeach on the basis of criminal stupidity, 90% of the Rethuglicans and half of the Democrats would be thrown out of office." ~~ P.Z. Myres
"The default position of human nature is to punch the other guy in the face and take his stuff." ~~ Dude
Brother Boot Knife of Warm Humanitarianism,
and Crypto-Communist!
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walt fristoe
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Posted - 10/07/2003 : 11:06:18 [Permalink]
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I hope the monument is in the shape of a giant phallus! That was considered a religious symbol long before the Christian religion ever got started by a bunch of sexually repressed woman-haters.
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"If God chose George Bus of all the people in the world, how good could God be?"
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Randy
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Posted - 10/07/2003 : 14:24:37 [Permalink]
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Fred Phelps, this phallic is for you!
Maybe we should vote on a particular 'Phelps Phallic' symbol to be planted in his front yard. Medium should be concrete, say maybe 20 tons worth. |
"We are all connected; to each other biologically, to the earth chemically, to the rest of the universe atomically."
"So you're made of detritus [from exploded stars]. Get over it. Or better yet, celebrate it. After all, what nobler thought can one cherish than that the universe lives within us all?"
-Neil DeGrasse Tyson |
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walt fristoe
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Posted - 10/08/2003 : 10:33:48 [Permalink]
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| Yeah, any one of those is just about what I had in mind. Thanks for sharing them! |
"If God chose George Bus of all the people in the world, how good could God be?"
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walt fristoe
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Posted - 10/08/2003 : 10:35:21 [Permalink]
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| Hey, I just noticed that the red-head in the lower left of the bottom picture looks alot like Hot Lips Hoolihan! |
"If God chose George Bus of all the people in the world, how good could God be?"
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Tim
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Posted - 10/09/2003 : 04:47:19 [Permalink]
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Oh, that's disgusting....Jesus will punish you...Repent, repent now evil sinners.
Forget Phelps, my wife wants to go to Japan, now. I think I'm in trouble. |
"We got an issue in America. Too many good docs are gettin' out of business. Too many OB/GYNs aren't able to practice their -- their love with women all across this country." Dubya in Poplar Bluff, Missouri, 9/6/2004
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furshur
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Posted - 10/09/2003 : 05:34:11 [Permalink]
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What exactly is going on in those pictures???? Are these 'weapons' used in some sort of Japanese jousting match? Or are they launched from a catapult into a 'target' of some sort. On the other hand never mind I don't want to know.....
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jmcginn
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Posted - 10/09/2003 : 06:28:37 [Permalink]
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walt fristoe
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Posted - 10/09/2003 : 10:42:11 [Permalink]
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quote:
Originally posted by furshur
What exactly is going on in those pictures????....On the other hand never mind I don't want to know.....
Oh come now, if you didn't want to know, you wouldn't have asked.  |
"If God chose George Bus of all the people in the world, how good could God be?"
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Randy
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Posted - 10/09/2003 : 15:01:36 [Permalink]
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So, for those who don't want to know...
"Held every April 15th at Wakamiya Hachimangu Shrine in Kawasaki Japan, this is about as wild and pagan as it gets. People of all ages participate in a parade in which everyone sports a gigantic penis, eat penis shaped candies, carve radishes into penis shapes, and dress up as their favourite cartoon character with one part of his anatomy dramatically enlarged! The whole thing is presided over by a priest, and there are arcane Shinto rituals that are carried out as well.
The festival celebrates the vanquishing of a demon that lived in a woman's vagina and would bite off the penises of her lovers! According to legend, a local craftsman fashioned a steel phallus which broke the demon's teeth."
A local penis glee club. Performances on the hour. |
"We are all connected; to each other biologically, to the earth chemically, to the rest of the universe atomically."
"So you're made of detritus [from exploded stars]. Get over it. Or better yet, celebrate it. After all, what nobler thought can one cherish than that the universe lives within us all?"
-Neil DeGrasse Tyson |
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