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Valiant Dancer
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Posted - 11/12/2003 :  12:05:22  Show Profile  Visit Valiant Dancer's Homepage Send Valiant Dancer a Private Message
http://www.msnbc.com/news/992496.asp?0bl=-0

Reminds me of the movie Backdraft.

"You see that flash of light in the corner of your eye? That's your career dissipation light. It just went into high gear." -- Firefighter Brian McCaffrey from the movie "Backdraft"


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walt fristoe
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Posted - 11/13/2003 :  11:29:23   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send walt fristoe a Private Message
I'm sure glad I don't live in Alabama, though I used to, when I was just a wee bairn. I've been following this story with great interest, and the suspense is killing me!

"If God chose George Bus of all the people in the world, how good could God be?"
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gezzam
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Posted - 11/13/2003 :  11:41:57   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit gezzam's Homepage Send gezzam a Private Message
As us Aussies say...."Suffer in yer jocks".....

Mistakes are a part of being human. Appreciate your mistakes for what they are: precious life lessons that can only be learned the hard way. Unless it's a fatal mistake, which, at least, others can learn from.

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@tomic
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Posted - 11/13/2003 :  12:26:17   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit @tomic's Homepage Send @tomic a Private Message
What bothers me is that Roy is not bothered at all by what happened today. It also bothers me that Roy doesn't even believe what he says. If you listen to him speak he contradicts himself. First he talked about how laws don't matter, that the natural law of God is the supreme judgement, and then he finishes with how the Constitution recognizes God. He wants it both ways, and as a lawyer, I think Roy knows better. I think he is nothing more than a dangerous demogogue. I wish hs followers would be more careful and listen to what he says but I know that's unlikely to happen.

Roy knows better. He was Chief Justice for Alabama and you would think he knows the law yet to hear him speak you would think he's some yokel from idiot county. I think he knows the law very well and he also knows how to tell people what they want to hear. When you hear him address the audience he sounds like a politician and not a judge. I hope the people of Alabama can figure out the difference in time.

Roy is a dangerous man that knows how to work the people or he is totally insane.
You make the call.

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Valiant Dancer
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Posted - 11/13/2003 :  12:39:24   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Valiant Dancer's Homepage Send Valiant Dancer a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by @tomic

What bothers me is that Roy is not bothered at all by what happened today. It also bothers me that Roy doesn't even believe what he says. If you listen to him speak he contradicts himself. First he talked about how laws don't matter, that the natural law of God is the supreme judgement, and then he finishes with how the Constitution recognizes God. He wants it both ways, and as a lawyer, I think Roy knows better. I think he is nothing more than a dangerous demogogue. I wish hs followers would be more careful and listen to what he says but I know that's unlikely to happen.

Roy knows better. He was Chief Justice for Alabama and you would think he knows the law yet to hear him speak you would think he's some yokel from idiot county. I think he knows the law very well and he also knows how to tell people what they want to hear. When you hear him address the audience he sounds like a politician and not a judge. I hope the people of Alabama can figure out the difference in time.

Roy is a dangerous man that knows how to work the people or he is totally insane.
You make the call.

@tomic



I vote dangerous. His removal should slow down his persuit of illegal means to forward religion.

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Maglev
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Posted - 11/13/2003 :  15:43:41   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Maglev's Homepage  Send Maglev an ICQ Message Send Maglev a Private Message
Here's another article, with a few more details:

http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/news/archive/2003/11/13/national1241EST0598.DTL

My favourite quote:

quote:
Jones asked Moore why he didn't just go ahead and move the monument as Thompson ordered.

"It would have violated my conscience, violated my oath of office and violated every rule of law I had sworn to uphold," Moore said.






Maglev

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Randy
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Posted - 11/13/2003 :  16:58:30   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Randy a Private Message
Whadda hypocrite, and double standard!

Course, now Mr. Roy 'Martyrdom' will no doubt run for guv with a 'monument on his knee'.

"We are all connected; to each other biologically, to the earth chemically, to the rest of the universe atomically."

"So you're made of detritus [from exploded stars]. Get over it. Or better yet, celebrate it. After all, what nobler thought can one cherish than that the universe lives within us all?"
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gezzam
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Posted - 11/13/2003 :  17:00:52   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit gezzam's Homepage Send gezzam a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by Randy

Whadda hypocrite, and double standard!

Course, now Mr. Roy 'Martyrdom' will no doubt run for guv with a 'monument on his knee'.



"Martyr" was the story title behind the newsreader on FOX News

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Randy
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Posted - 11/13/2003 :  17:55:16   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Randy a Private Message
And, from the AU site...

http://www.au.org/press/pr031113.htm

"We are all connected; to each other biologically, to the earth chemically, to the rest of the universe atomically."

"So you're made of detritus [from exploded stars]. Get over it. Or better yet, celebrate it. After all, what nobler thought can one cherish than that the universe lives within us all?"
-Neil DeGrasse Tyson
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Renae
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Posted - 11/14/2003 :  07:00:55   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Renae a Private Message
He's gonna push for legislation that will "alter the direction of the country"? Considering it's already going to hell in a Christian neo-con Fox-News-endorsed handbasket, LOL, wouldn't a change of direction be a GOOD thing? LOL I suspect irony is lost on People of Moore's Ilk.

Christians are whiners. Christians are free to worship in any way they choose, really--except via government endorsement of their religion. Big frickin' deal! Why don't Christians try gratitude rather than entitlement? Or tolerance rather than. . . .

....nevermind.



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