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Zandermann
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USA
431 Posts

Posted - 08/27/2001 :  17:17:10   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Send Zandermann an AOL message Send Zandermann a Private Message
...Thanks to Torsten for providing a little background...I knew there had to be a story behind Rosen's monolog re Velikovsky. Now that you've filled me in, it makes sense. Sort of a pre-emptive strike.

quote:
(Chip) ...It's nice to be among the sane for a change.(-;
Hey there...now just who are you calling 'sane' ??? Them's fightin' words!
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Chippewa
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USA
1496 Posts

Posted - 08/27/2001 :  21:41:06   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Chippewa's Homepage Send Chippewa a Private Message
quote:
(Chip) ...It's nice to be among the sane for a change.(-;


Zanderman:
Hey there...now just who are you calling 'sane' ??? Them's fightin' words!

Chip:
Uh...er...um...sorry, I was actually waxing poetically about a river...uh....a river in France...that runs through Paris, and I...um...er...misspelled it. Yeah, that's it. :-D
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Dog_Ed
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USA
126 Posts

Posted - 08/27/2001 :  23:14:44   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Dog_Ed's Homepage Send Dog_Ed a Private Message
rubysue ("By the way, have you heard of Dr. Michio Kaku?"): Good gosh, I heard Kaku on the infamous Art Bell show and subsequently took him to task via email for asserting that the entire Universe is inside a black hole. He pointed out that it fits one definition of a BH in that no light can escape it, and accused me of defining a BH in unnecessarily narrow terms. I have always felt he leans too much toward sensationalism when communicating physics to general audiences, and your information reinforces that opinion.

"Even Einstein put his foot in it sometimes"
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James
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USA
754 Posts

Posted - 08/28/2001 :  18:36:28   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Send James a Yahoo! Message Send James a Private Message
For those interested:

JOHN EDWARD, the renowned medium(moron) and star of -CROSSING OVER-, will be online for a real-time chat. Don't miss this rare chance to connect directly with John, starting Wednesday, August 29, at 9PM ET.

HOW TO CHAT:
To chat, visit http://www.scifi.com/chat/chatnow.html and join #auditorium on the appointed date and time. Requires a java-capable browser.

IRC USERS: Connect your chat client to http://events.scifi.com port 6667.

WebTV users: see http://www.scifi.com/chat/chat.faq.html for more information.


The way I see it, christians are godless too...they just don't know it yet.

Edited by - James on 08/28/2001 18:38:29
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Chippewa
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1496 Posts

Posted - 08/29/2001 :  00:07:35   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Chippewa's Homepage Send Chippewa a Private Message
quote:

For those interested:

JOHN EDWARD, the renowned medium(moron) and star of -CROSSING OVER-, will be online for a real-time chat. Don't miss this rare chance to connect directly with John, starting Wednesday, August 29, at 9PM ET.

HOW TO CHAT:
To chat, visit http://www.scifi.com/chat/chatnow.html and join #auditorium on the appointed date and time. Requires a java-capable browser.



I hate that fast talking conman! How dare he appear on the same network, just after that excellent fiction-yet-politically-true-to-life program, "Babylon 5!" (-;

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Valiant Dancer
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USA
4826 Posts

Posted - 08/29/2001 :  07:46:42   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Valiant Dancer's Homepage Send Valiant Dancer a Private Message
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Hmmm, I was about to say "I'm sorry, but when that happens I delete them", but you know, I'm not sorry. I've really had about enough of that kind of crap on my board. I will try very hard to get a new board up and running by mid-October. It has to wait until a big deadline passes at work.



BA,
I posted something I thought others might find funny on your board. It got deleted and while re-reading it I realized it could be taken as insulting. I appologize for it.

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Lisa
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USA
1223 Posts

Posted - 08/29/2001 :  10:32:55   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Lisa a Private Message
Bad sad news folks. After several quiet and peaceful days, the Pipmeister is back. Still has his knickers in a twist over his perceived anomolies. Now, are we all going to behave ourselves?
On a much brighter note, we are having so much fun with our new telescope. Last night was clear and beautiful. We were like a couple of kids on their first trip to Disneyworld. Tonight looks to be the same, so we'll probably be back out on the deck freezing our butts off. Can't wait.
Lisa

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Piltdown
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USA
312 Posts

Posted - 08/29/2001 :  10:47:25   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Send Piltdown an AOL message  Send Piltdown a Yahoo! Message Send Piltdown a Private Message
quote:

Bad sad news folks. After several quiet and peaceful days, the Pipmeister is back. Still has his knickers in a twist over his perceived anomolies. Now, are we all going to behave ourselves?
On a much brighter note, we are having so much fun with our new telescope. Last night was clear and beautiful. We were like a couple of kids on their first trip to Disneyworld. Tonight looks to be the same, so we'll probably be back out on the deck freezing our butts off. Can't wait.
Lisa



Great news about the telescope! As for drainpipe, I get to practice ignoring him, even though a variety of new insults have occurred to me viz "Your sword of truth is a prick of prevarication." He is simply proving this KO person's point about the relationship between wacko claimants and totalitarian ideology.
I am still wondering about legal remedies, but none of the real victims seem willing to pursue it. A class-action libel suit is technically possible, but there is no precedent for it in the US. I am also wondering if the moon-hoax liars can be prosecuted under the Canadian hate speech act, as Holocaust denialists have been. For me, an ACLU member for 25 years, to even consider this possibility is a good indication of just how far beyond the pale these nuts really are.


Abducting UFOs and conspiring against conspiracy theorists since 1980.
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Lisa
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USA
1223 Posts

Posted - 08/29/2001 :  11:01:02   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Lisa a Private Message
There is one of the HBers favourite charges I'd love to see NASA and the government jump on with both feet. HBers seem fond of the claim that Grissom et. al. and the Challenger crew were murdered. Now you can charge NASA with a lot, including fiscal irresponsibility, but murder is a whole other ball game. It would be fun, in a way, to see some HBer (and you know who I mean) on a witness stand spinning his candyfloss conspiracy theories. That would almost make it worth turning on the TV!
Lisa

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NubiWan
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USA
424 Posts

Posted - 08/29/2001 :  11:13:28   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send NubiWan a Private Message
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rubysue ("By the way, have you heard of Dr. Michio Kaku?"): Good gosh, I heard Kaku on the infamous Art Bell show and subsequently took him to task via email for asserting that the entire Universe is inside a black hole. He pointed out that it fits one definition of a BH in that no light can escape it, and accused me of defining a BH in unnecessarily narrow terms. I have always felt he leans too much toward sensationalism when communicating physics to general audiences, and your information reinforces that opinion.

"Even Einstein put his foot in it sometimes"



His book Hyperspace was my introduction to superstring theory, and thought it was pretty good, too. But do understand your reservations, did search out his web site and forum, all bun and no meat. *L* And for good or ill, eventually lead me to here via the BABB. Dunno, he seems to have a social agenda as well...


"If we believe absurdities, we shall commit atrocities." -Voltaire
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Rift
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USA
333 Posts

Posted - 08/29/2001 :  15:42:22   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Rift a Private Message
What the hell is it about that Salon article that drives JW into a were-pseudoscientist?

EVERYTIME a link to that thing has been posted JW goes INSANE.

And here I thought JW was reforming, lol.

"Goddammit! The world is just filling up with more and more idiots! And the computer is giving them access to the world! They're
spreading their stupidity! At least they were contained before--now they're on the loose everywhere!"?
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Zandermann
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USA
431 Posts

Posted - 08/29/2001 :  17:43:32   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Send Zandermann an AOL message Send Zandermann a Private Message
quote:
And here I thought JW was reforming, lol.
Yeah...and here I said just about a week ago that it seemed that JW was mellowing.

It seemed, for a few posts, that he might be willing to concede that people who disagree with him may just possibly not be dunderheads.

Now I have to take it all back.

"If in the last few years you haven't discarded a major opinion or acquired a new one, check your pulse. You may be dead."
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Rift
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USA
333 Posts

Posted - 08/30/2001 :  01:54:45   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Rift a Private Message
I really don't think I did anything to get that Salon Article thread deleted.

In fact I wish the part about that article not containing the word "nazi" at all had remained.

I apologize if I did get out of hand, but, again, I thought I was realtively civil compared to what JW was dishing out.

And oh joy, JW is going to bless someone with a review of that article. :)

"Goddammit! The world is just filling up with more and more idiots! And the computer is giving them access to the world! They're
spreading their stupidity! At least they were contained before--now they're on the loose everywhere!"?
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Dog_Ed
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USA
126 Posts

Posted - 08/30/2001 :  10:42:59   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Dog_Ed's Homepage Send Dog_Ed a Private Message
I suspect I should have kept my hands in my pockets and off the keyboard, but JW's response to Chip was so bastardly that I got carried away. Well, he and I are off into email land now so at least you guys don't have to see it on the BABB. I'm sure I'm going to learn a lot of relativity equations very fast just in self-defense. Like I don't have enough demands on my time already *snarl*.

"Even Einstein put his foot in it sometimes"
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Rift
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USA
333 Posts

Posted - 08/30/2001 :  16:38:15   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Rift a Private Message
::biting hand to keep from responding to JW's 'superluminal galaxy' post and his post to Jill Swift::

Poor girl... RUN!!!

We need a support group for JW too :(

"Goddammit! The world is just filling up with more and more idiots! And the computer is giving them access to the world! They're
spreading their stupidity! At least they were contained before--now they're on the loose everywhere!"?
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