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Ricky, you might consider submitting these to WinAce's Fundies Say the Darndest Things. I would guesstimate that most creationists are fundamentalists.

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I don't know that atheists should be considered citizens, nor should they be
considered patriots. This is one nation under God.
- George H. W. Bush

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I do further promise and declare, that I will, when opportunity presents, make and wage relentless
war, secretly or openly, against all heretics, Protestants and Liberals, as I am directed to do and to
extirpate and exterminate them from the face of the whole earth, and that I will spare neither sex,
age nor condition and that I will hang, waste, boil, flay, strangle and bury alive these infamous
heretics; rip up the stomachs and wombs of their women and crush their infants' heads against
the wall, in order to annihilate forever their execrable race.
- Pope Paul III, 1576

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(talking about apartheid South Africa) "I think 'one man, one vote,' just unrestricted
democracy, would not be wise. There needs to be some kind of protection for the minority
which the white people represent now, a minority, and they need and have a right to
demand a protection of their rights.
- Pat Robertson,

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"Just like what Nazi Germany did to the Jews, so liberal America
is now doing to the evangelical Christians. It's no different. It is the same thing. It is
happening all over again. It is the Democratic Congress, the liberal-based media and the
homosexuals who want to destroy the Christians. Wholesale abuse and discrimination
and the worst bigotry directed toward any group in America today. More terrible than
anything suffered by any minority in history.
- Pat Robertson

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"You say you're supposed to be nice to the Episcopalians and the Presbyterians and the
Methodists and this, that, and the other thing. Nonsense. I don't have to be nice to the spirit of
the Antichrist. I can love the people who hold false opinions but I don't have to be
nice to them.
- Pat Robertson

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The Constitution of the United States, for instance, is a marvelous document for self-government by the Christian people. But the minute you turn the document into the hands of non-Christian people and atheistic people they can use it to destroy the very foundation of our society. And that's what's been happening.
-- Pat Robertson, The 700 Club television program, December 30, 1981

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When I said during my presidential bid that I would only bring Christians and Jews into the government, I hit a firestorm. "What do you mean?" the media challenged me. "You're not going to bring atheists into the government? How dare you maintain that those who believe in the Judeo-Christian values are better qualified to govern America than Hindus and Muslims?" My simple answer is, "Yes, they are."
-- Pat Robertson, The New World Order, p. 218

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If anybody understood what Hindus really believe, there would be no doubt that they have no business administering government policies in a country that favors freedom and equality.... Can you imagine having the Ayatollah Ruhollah Khomeini as defense minister, or Mahatma Gandhi as minister of health, education, and welfare? The Hindu and Buddhist idea of karma and the Muslim idea of kismet, or fate condemn the poor and the disabled to their suffering.... It's the will of Allah. These beliefs are nothing but abject fatalism, and they would devastate the social gains this nation has made if they were ever put into practice.
-- Pat Robertson, The New World Order, p. 219

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It is interesting, that termites don't build things, and the great builders of our nation almost to a man have been Christians, because Christians have the desire to build something. He is motivated by love of man and God, so he builds. The people who have come into [our] institutions [today] are primarily termites. They are into destroying institutions that have been built by Christians, whether it is universities, governments, our own traditions, that we have.... The termites are in charge now, and that is not the way it ought to be, and the time has arrived for a godly fumigation.
-- Pat Robertson, New York Magazine, August 18, 1986

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"Here is another example of the way Robertson would mix church and state, rather than keep them separate. Let's say that a Christian thinks God is directing him or her to blow up an abortion clinic or kill a doctor who performs abortions, and this Christian does in fact commit such a crime. In a September of 1984 edition of The 700 Club, Robertson suggested that special church tribunals could be called upon to discern if a believer had in fact received an authentic word from God which compelled him to break a civil law. According to Robertson, if this church tribunal did determine the believer had in fact received an authentic message from God -- how they could reach this conclusion without issuing God a suboena wasn't made clear -- then, Robertson said, the church tribunal would have the civil authority to provide the believer with immunity from prosecution."
-- Gerard Thomas Straub, speech before the San Fernando Valley Chapter of Americans United for Separation of Church and State, September 11, 1995, quoted from Harry Schwartzbart, "Pat Robertson Proposes Immunity From Prosecution For Criminals Who Commit Crimes On Instructions From God"

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"I want you to just let a wave of intolerance wash over you. I want you to let a wave of hatred wash over you. Yes, hate is good... Our goal is a Christian nation. We have a biblical duty, we are called on by God to conquer this country. We don't want equal time. We don't want pluralism."
--Randall Terry, The News Sentinel, (Ft. Wayne, IN.), 8/16/93


"We are to make Bible-obeying disciples of anybody that gets in our way."
--Jay Grimstead, February 1987



"This is God's world, not Satan's. Christians are the lawful heirs, not non-Christians."
--Gary North, Political Polytheism: The Myth of Pluralism (Tyler, TX: Institute for Christian Economics, 1989), p. 102




"If you're not a born-again Christian, you're a failure as a human being."
--Jerry Falwell



"The public school system is damned. Let me tell you how radical I am. Christian students should be in Christian schools. If you have to sell your car, live in a smaller house, or work a night job, put your child in Christian schools. If you can't afford it, home school."
--Jerry Falwell, "Trends in Christian Higher Education," Regent University, 9/22/93



"AIDS is the wrath of a just God against homosexuals. To oppose it would be like an Israelite jumping in the Red Sea to save one of Pharaoh's charioteers."
--Jerry Falwell



"God Hates Fags!"
--Rev. Fred Phelps

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And so forth. I really think that you've got to work at it to be as hateful as these low-lifes are.

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Verso:
Third - I don't mean this post as a concession of my beliefs in any way. I believe in God, Jesus, Creation and a lot of other things that make me a fundamentalist. Does this make me a "low-lifer?" For most, I know it will. But, for those who like to have a good, respectful debate without the extreme levels of scientific chauvinism that plague BOTH sides of the Christian/Atheist and Creationist/Evolutionist debates - bring it on.

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Originally posted by verso
I know it IS tempting - because the loud, annoying fundamentalist Christians are, by their very nature, going to be the tip of the iceberg. In other words - of the entire fundamentalist community, THEY will be the most visible. That is what MAKES them annoying fundamentalists.

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Does this make me a "low-lifer?" For most, I know it will.

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But, for those who like to have a good, respectful debate without the extreme levels of scientific chauvinism that plague BOTH sides of the Christian/Atheist and Creationist/Evolutionist debates - bring it on.

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