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Stargirl
Skeptic Friend
USA
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 Posted - 06/04/2004 : 05:26:11 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by chaloobi
Maybe they should go to the Middle-East, chase a bunch of Arabs into exile, and build a new state on their land. It's not an unprecedented model for the creation of a religion-based state. 
Hey, being the Christian fundamentalist he is you don't suppose that's what Bush had planed for Iraq all along do you? |
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chaloobi
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Posted - 06/04/2004 : 06:15:01 [Permalink]
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I think that'd actually be giving him too much credit. He's a  |
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Maverick
Skeptic Friend
Sweden
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Posted - 06/04/2004 : 09:03:39 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by chaloobi
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Originally posted by Gorgo
EDIT: This quote from the site really gives you a feel for how far their heads have gone up their asses:
[quote]Matter of factly, the liberties we have lost to liberalism over the past century will be restored in one fell swoop.
I'd be interested to know which liberties these folks think they have lostto liberalism in the past century. I suppose they feel their greatest enemy on the civil liberties front is the ACLU! LMAO! It's like something out of 1984. Creepy, really.
Yeah. One of these days I'll only be able to act surprised to the constant stream of utter nonsense originating from the fundamentalists. I knew that a lot of people had very little knowledge of what liberalism was, but this is just ridiculous. |
"Life is but a momentary glimpse of the wonder of this astonishing universe, and it is sad to see so many dreaming it away on spiritual fantasy." -- Carl Sagan |
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Maverick
Skeptic Friend
Sweden
385 Posts |
Posted - 06/04/2004 : 09:10:58 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by moakley
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Originally posted by tomk80
Amish revisited. ...
Dark Ages revisited ???
Well, I'm not sure. One the one hand, they hate liberalism; on the other they claim to love liberties. Still, very little of what they say seem to support that claim. So they want a free society with liberties, but without liberties... or something. And yes, I am sure some of them want the Dark Ages back. A thread on this board (something about fundies and how they say the darndest things) led me to the RaptureReady Board, where they seem to actually believe all that crap about the end times, the rapture and creationism and other outlandish (interesting word, isn't it) concepts. |
"Life is but a momentary glimpse of the wonder of this astonishing universe, and it is sad to see so many dreaming it away on spiritual fantasy." -- Carl Sagan |
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Dr. Mabuse
Septic Fiend
Sweden
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Posted - 06/06/2004 : 16:05:33 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by Maverick
And yes, I am sure some of them want the Dark Ages back. A thread on this board (something about fundies and how they say the darndest things) led me to the RaptureReady Board, where they seem to actually believe all that crap about the end times, the rapture and creationism and other outlandish (interesting word, isn't it) concepts.
I hope you're not easily scared. I used to read and post there (under different nick) but I got a bit anti-RR when they booted me for a ridiculous reason. |
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Dude
SFN Die Hard
USA
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Posted - 06/06/2004 : 16:20:31 [Permalink]
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I have a great idea for a business....
I research up the various groups who believe in the rapture and find ones who have specific dates for the occurence. I will get some financial backing, and offer these people 10% of their personal worth in cash right now... in exchange for them signing over all their assets to me effective on the date of their scheduled rapture. House, cars, stocks, bank accounts, ect.... I get all their stuff with no obligation to make their payments of take their debt.
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Ignorance is preferable to error; and he is less remote from the truth who believes nothing, than he who believes what is wrong.
-- Thomas Jefferson
"god :: the last refuge of a man with no answers and no argument." - G. Carlin
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The handmaiden of desperation; the opiate of despair; the illegible signpost on the road to perdition. ~~ da filth |
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tomk80
SFN Regular
Netherlands
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Posted - 06/07/2004 : 12:53:11 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by Dude
I have a great idea for a business....
I research up the various groups who believe in the rapture and find ones who have specific dates for the occurence. I will get some financial backing, and offer these people 10% of their personal worth in cash right now... in exchange for them signing over all their assets to me effective on the date of their scheduled rapture. House, cars, stocks, bank accounts, ect.... I get all their stuff with no obligation to make their payments of take their debt.
Is it just me, or are there others here who seriously think this might actually work. |
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`Contrariwise,' continued Tweedledee, `if it was so, it might be; and if it were so, it would be; but as it isn't, it ain't. That's logic.'
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Dude
SFN Die Hard
USA
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Posted - 06/07/2004 : 21:08:35 [Permalink]
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| I think it would work.... just don't think I could do it to people :) |
Ignorance is preferable to error; and he is less remote from the truth who believes nothing, than he who believes what is wrong.
-- Thomas Jefferson
"god :: the last refuge of a man with no answers and no argument." - G. Carlin
Hope, n.
The handmaiden of desperation; the opiate of despair; the illegible signpost on the road to perdition. ~~ da filth |
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Maverick
Skeptic Friend
Sweden
385 Posts |
Posted - 06/08/2004 : 02:42:33 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by Dr. Mabuse
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Originally posted by Maverick
And yes, I am sure some of them want the Dark Ages back. A thread on this board (something about fundies and how they say the darndest things) led me to the RaptureReady Board, where they seem to actually believe all that crap about the end times, the rapture and creationism and other outlandish (interesting word, isn't it) concepts.
I hope you're not easily scared. I used to read and post there (under different nick) but I got a bit anti-RR when they booted me for a ridiculous reason.
I found its "mother site" as well, raptureready.com. It's a bizarre place to say the least, but somehow interesting. Apparently, sexual orientation has to do with morality, the European Union is the "revived Roman Empire"(!), and increasing knowledge is one of many signs of the end times. It's not like most religious people that I've met, those who say "god could exist, never know" and "Jesus was a cool guy, really nice and all" and then that's how religious they'll ever be. No, here it is several lightyears beyond that. It's an unquestionable and naturally unquestioned part of their reality. It's fascinating. Independent thought and skepticism is not an option. How sad! Anyway, I might register. But what would I be allowed to say in there? I imagine I could, unintentionally, even, stir up some debates in there that might get me booted as well. |
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chaloobi
SFN Regular
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Posted - 06/08/2004 : 06:18:36 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by Dude
I have a great idea for a business....
I research up the various groups who believe in the rapture and find ones who have specific dates for the occurence. I will get some financial backing, and offer these people 10% of their personal worth in cash right now... in exchange for them signing over all their assets to me effective on the date of their scheduled rapture. House, cars, stocks, bank accounts, ect.... I get all their stuff with no obligation to make their payments of take their debt.
This is a great business model. You could frame the whole thing as a test of their Faith - proving to God that they truly believe. Afterall, if their Faith isn't strong enough, they'll be, ah, left behind. Right? |
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chaloobi
SFN Regular
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Posted - 06/08/2004 : 06:23:12 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by Maverick<snip>and increasing knowledge is one of many signs of the end times. <snip>
Makes sense to me. That 'increasing knowledge' thing is like we are feasting no the Tree of Knowledge. Didn't God say NO? This is why they can turn their back on the obvious truth of theories like evolution without feeling negligent to their brains and society as a whole. It DOESN'T matter if it's true. Knowledge is forbidden! We SHOULD NOT KNOW this stuff. |
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thecor
New Member
Italy
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Posted - 06/08/2004 : 06:47:14 [Permalink]
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| I guess I'm goin straight to the 7th heaven, cause I knownothin! |
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Dave W.
Info Junkie
USA
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Posted - 06/08/2004 : 07:00:35 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by thecor
I guess I'm goin straight to the 7th heaven, cause I knownothin!
They do say that ignorance is bliss. |
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Ricky
SFN Die Hard
USA
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Maverick
Skeptic Friend
Sweden
385 Posts |
Posted - 06/10/2004 : 07:56:13 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by chaloobi
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Originally posted by Maverick<snip>and increasing knowledge is one of many signs of the end times. <snip>
Makes sense to me. That 'increasing knowledge' thing is like we are feasting no the Tree of Knowledge. Didn't God say NO? This is why they can turn their back on the obvious truth of theories like evolution without feeling negligent to their brains and society as a whole. It DOESN'T matter if it's true. Knowledge is forbidden! We SHOULD NOT KNOW this stuff.
It's with biology today as it once was with astronomy. It gives us way too much knowledge, and should therefor be banned. The very idea to go after ideas that threaten one's fairytales rather than to revise the tales themselves, i strange. It's also so obvious that's what they're doing, you'd think they would suspect us to know what's going on. They wouldn't have to go to court to exterminate inconvinient science if they really had something to show scientists. It's puzzling why one would rather *decide* how things are rather than to constantly try to learn more and more on how things are. |
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