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Dave W.
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USA
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Posted - 06/23/2004 :  09:29:55  Show Profile  Visit Dave W.'s Homepage Send Dave W. a Private Message
Check out this painting. Specifically, look at what's wading in the pond on the left, and flying in the air to the right.

Spot the tyrannical king and win a cookie.

According to the salespeople:
Hot off the painter's canvas is the first ever 'authentic Noah's Ark' painting by artist, Elfred Lee. 4500 years ago Noah's ark carried its precious cargo to safety. Now the most accurate and beautiful depiction of that event ever painted is released, exclusively, through Bibleland Studios.

- Dave W. (Private Msg, EMail)
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verlch
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Posted - 06/23/2004 :  09:47:00   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Send verlch an AOL message Send verlch a Private Message
Cool sounds like something I should buy!!!! How much is it?

What came first the chicken or the egg?

How do plants exist without bugs in the soil, and bugs in the soil without plants producing oxygen?

There are no atheists in foxholes

Underlying the evolutionary theory is not just the classic "stuff" of science — conclusions arrived at through prolonged observation and experimentation. Evolution is first an atheistic, materialistic world view. In other words, the primary reason for its acceptance has little to do with the evidence for or against it. Evolution is accepted because men are atheists by faith and thus interpret the evidence to cor-respond to their naturalistic philosophy.

For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears; And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables. II Timothy 4:3,4

II Thess. 2:11 And for this cause God shall
send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:

You can not see the 'wind', but you can see its effect!!!!

Evolution was caused by genetic mistakes at each stage?

Radical Evolution has 500 million years to find fossils of fictional drawings of (hard core)missing links, yet they find none.

We have not seen such moral darkness since the dark ages, coencides with
teaching evolution in schools. (Moral darkness)

For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places, EPH 6:12.

"Thus, many scientists embracing naturalism find themselves in the seeming dilemma recently articulated by biochemist Franklin Harold: "We should reject, as a matter of principle, the substitution of intelligent design for the dialogue of chance and necessity [i.e., Darwinian evolution]; but we must concede that there are presently no detailed Darwinian accounts of the evolution of any biochemical system, only a variety of wishful speculations."
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Maverick
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Sweden
385 Posts

Posted - 06/23/2004 :  09:50:07   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Maverick a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by Dave W.

Check out this painting. Specifically, look at what's wading in the pond on the left, and flying in the air to the right.

Spot the tyrannical king and win a cookie.

According to the salespeople:
Hot off the painter's canvas is the first ever 'authentic Noah's Ark' painting by artist, Elfred Lee. 4500 years ago Noah's ark carried its precious cargo to safety. Now the most accurate and beautiful depiction of that event ever painted is released, exclusively, through Bibleland Studios.


Ah, I see. Looks like a brachiosaurus (or similar) and pterodactyles. But you also see another anachronism, that is the guy wearing a shirt, carrying a book. I doubt those things existed 4500 years ago. But then again, this is a painting of a myth. They claim it to be accurate; how would they know...? They don't even know it didn't happen.

"Life is but a momentary glimpse of the wonder of this astonishing universe, and it is sad to see so many dreaming it away on spiritual fantasy." -- Carl Sagan
Edited by - Maverick on 06/23/2004 09:51:24
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Maglev
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Canada
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Posted - 06/23/2004 :  09:54:16   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Maglev's Homepage  Send Maglev an ICQ Message Send Maglev a Private Message
Hot off the painter's canvas is the first ever 'authentic Noah's Ark' painting by artist, Elfred Lee. 4500 years ago Noah's ark carried its precious cargo to safety. Now the most accurate and beautiful depiction of that event ever painted is released, exclusively, through Bibleland Studios.


What!??!?!??! Dinosaurs on Noah's Ark? So that's where all those fossils come from . Man, looking at this, I almost chocked on a cookie. Notice the velociraptor (sp) and trex next to the central tree.

It is accurate in a way; notice how the carnivores dont eat the bunnies etc. Or that Noah (afaik) doesn't save any plants, trees, instects, fresh water fishes, etc...

Is it just me or does many of the humans look strangely familiar? I think I see a Starr Jones looking woman, next to a Britney Spears like girl. Guess who wont be on the ark?

Maglev

"The awe it inspired in me made the awe that people talk about in respect of religious experience seem, frankly, silly beside it. I'd take the awe of understanding over the awe of ignorance any day."
--Douglas Adams, on evolutionary biology.
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Dave W.
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Posted - 06/23/2004 :  10:06:21   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Dave W.'s Homepage Send Dave W. a Private Message
Maglev wrote:
quote:
Notice the velociraptor (sp) and trex next to the central tree.
Very good, Maglev, you win the cookie! You'll find it on your hard drive.

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Dude
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USA
6891 Posts

Posted - 06/23/2004 :  10:10:15   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Dude a Private Message
quote:
It is accurate in a way; notice how the carnivores dont eat the bunnies etc


Yeah, the cats not eating the birds they are cuddling with is funny :)

Ignorance is preferable to error; and he is less remote from the truth who believes nothing, than he who believes what is wrong.
-- Thomas Jefferson

"god :: the last refuge of a man with no answers and no argument." - G. Carlin

Hope, n.
The handmaiden of desperation; the opiate of despair; the illegible signpost on the road to perdition. ~~ da filth
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Dave W.
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Posted - 06/23/2004 :  10:25:35   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Dave W.'s Homepage Send Dave W. a Private Message
Panda's Thumb has a message pointing out the legend for the painting. Note that the guy in the modern-day shirt with a Bible (!) under his arm is not numbered. And this is supposed to be an accurate desciption of the Ark before the Flood?

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Dave W.
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Posted - 06/23/2004 :  10:34:03   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Dave W.'s Homepage Send Dave W. a Private Message
And the artist appears to really enjoy womens' boobs. Not that I blame him, it just seems a little incongruous with the Ark painting.

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Ricky
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USA
4907 Posts

Posted - 06/23/2004 :  18:30:19   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Send Ricky an AOL message Send Ricky a Private Message
"Note that the guy in the modern-day shirt with a Bible (!) under his arm is not numbered. And this is supposed to be an accurate desciption of the Ark before the Flood?"

Hey, the guy in the modern-day shirt with a Bible under his arm is much more accurate than a rain that flooded the entire Earth.

Why continue? Because we must. Because we have the call. Because it is nobler to fight for rationality without winning than to give up in the face of continued defeats. Because whatever true progress humanity makes is through the rationality of the occasional individual and because any one individual we may win for the cause may do more for humanity than a hundred thousand who hug their superstitions to their breast.
- Isaac Asimov
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furshur
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USA
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Posted - 06/24/2004 :  05:53:53   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send furshur a Private Message
I noticed that there are African elephants, Indian elephants, and a Mammoth. Since this is an accurate account of the flood - we have a little more information on what a 'kind' is.
I also noticed that on the right side of the picture one of the ostriches has it's head stuck in the sand. So I guess before the flood they actually did stick their heads in the sand. Imagine that!



If I knew then what I know now then I would know more now than I know.
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chaloobi
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Posted - 06/24/2004 :  06:24:42   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Send chaloobi a Yahoo! Message Send chaloobi a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by Dave W.

Check out this painting. Specifically, look at what's wading in the pond on the left, and flying in the air to the right.

Spot the tyrannical king and win a cookie.

According to the salespeople:
Hot off the painter's canvas is the first ever 'authentic Noah's Ark' painting by artist, Elfred Lee. 4500 years ago Noah's ark carried its precious cargo to safety. Now the most accurate and beautiful depiction of that event ever painted is released, exclusively, through Bibleland Studios.


LMAO - so the flood killed the dinosaurs? Didn't God tell Noah to bring two of every animal? So Noah disregarded God's command. I'm sure he's burning in Hell today for that screw-up.

-Chaloobi

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filthy
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USA
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Posted - 06/24/2004 :  06:24:59   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send filthy a Private Message
Actually, I rather like it. It's a nice picture and if it didn't have the DO NOT PRINT on it, I'd use it for wallpaper.

Can I get an honorable mention for pointing out that a wooden vessel that size would break up from stresses sitting unleveled and not chocked on the ground? Also, I thought the modern double-faced hammer in Noah's belt was a nice touch.



Edited to add: Y'know, the thought just occured to me; what with one thing and a lot of others, this painting just might be a very subtle spoof. Damn! now I like it even better!

"What luck for rulers that men do not think." -- Adolf Hitler (1889 - 1945)

"If only we could impeach on the basis of criminal stupidity, 90% of the Rethuglicans and half of the Democrats would be thrown out of office." ~~ P.Z. Myres


"The default position of human nature is to punch the other guy in the face and take his stuff." ~~ Dude

Brother Boot Knife of Warm Humanitarianism,

and Crypto-Communist!

Edited by - filthy on 06/24/2004 06:52:00
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chaloobi
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Posted - 06/24/2004 :  08:02:10   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Send chaloobi a Yahoo! Message Send chaloobi a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by filthy
<snip>
Edited to add: Y'know, the thought just occured to me; what with one thing and a lot of others, this painting just might be a very subtle spoof. Damn! now I like it even better! <snip>

Are you implying that Dave's lack of a sense of humor has caused him to miss a very funny, very sarcastic joke? Just the fact that this has been called into question reflects strongly how bizarre that painting is.

-Chaloobi

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TG
Skeptic Friend

USA
121 Posts

Posted - 06/24/2004 :  09:30:16   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send TG a Private Message
It has the same artistic cheesiness of the stuff that appears in virtually all Jehovah's Witness literature. Where's the Australopithecus afarensis? Surely it's in there somewhere.

Tom
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R.Wreck
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USA
1191 Posts

Posted - 06/27/2004 :  10:36:29   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send R.Wreck a Private Message
I think some of the crowd on the lower left took a wrong turn on the way to a Dead show. Still, a breath-taking I mean mind-numbing piece of art.

The foundation of morality is to . . . give up pretending to believe that for which there is no evidence, and repeating unintelligible propositions about things beyond the possibliities of knowledge.
T. H. Huxley

The Cattle Prod of Enlightened Compassion
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wajo
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Posted - 07/07/2004 :  06:04:27   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send wajo a Private Message
What are those shapes to the left of the volcano? They look like skyscrapers to me...possibly even the twin towers.
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