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welshdean
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 Posted - 06/30/2004 : 18:34:19 [Permalink]
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| Verlch, by the way, can you point to the part in genesis where chemosynthesis was created? |
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Ricky
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Dr. Mabuse
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Posted - 06/30/2004 : 22:32:10 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by verlch
I have read more articles about evolution than I ever have, and all it did was raise my blood pressure and quetions that I have.
It looks like you lack the proper tools in order to understand what you read. Anyone 7 years old who have learned to read can also read Latin. Problem is, they will not understand what they read.
Verlch, before you start reading all those Evolution-sites that obviously give you a figurative headache, maybe you should start with Biology 101, Chemistry 101, Physics 101, and General Science for Beginners. Having basic knowledge of these subjects is a sound foundation, and thus far it looks like you lack most of it.
May I ask, before you got saved by His Grace, back when you were a lying, thieving bastard (as you have told us you were in other threads... my purpose for asking is not to antagonize you, but I'd like to know where you're coming from, what your past experience is, that motivates you...), were you a high-school drop-out also? It would explain your evident lack in natural sciences.
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Your facts should be able to answer my questions,
That depends entirely on how you formulate your questions. Most often you are asking the wrong questions, and too many times your questions "assumes facts and/or assertions not in evidence".
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Her qualites and life creating ability are masked in such darkness, we are to just 'believe' it, and question it later? I think not. Besides having a Phd in evolution what have I missed here besides the concept?
You need to chill down, and stop jumping to conclusion all the time. If a concept does not make sense at first glance you can't just summarily reject it. One of the reasons why it doesn't make sense is probably because you lack knowledge about one or more of the processes or steps involved in the concept you think doesn't make sense.
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Ummm, where did I miss some of the facts here? So I'm speechless!!!
Statements like that shows that you are not sincere in any question you ask. So why should we bother answering you?
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furshur
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Posted - 07/01/2004 : 05:53:58 [Permalink]
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The good Dr. wrote:
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Verlch, before you start reading all those Evolution-sites that obviously give you a figurative headache, maybe you should start with Biology 101, Chemistry 101, Physics 101, and General Science for Beginners. Having basic knowledge of these subjects is a sound foundation, and thus far it looks like you lack most of it.
By the 101 designations for the courses, I think you are assuming that Verlich is a High School graduate. Possibly, not a very sound assumption.
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Dr. Mabuse
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Posted - 07/01/2004 : 07:35:06 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by furshur
The good Dr. wrote:
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Verlch, before you start reading all those Evolution-sites that obviously give you a figurative headache, maybe you should start with Biology 101, Chemistry 101, Physics 101, and General Science for Beginners. Having basic knowledge of these subjects is a sound foundation, and thus far it looks like you lack most of it.
By the 101 designations for the courses, I think you are assuming that Verlich is a High School graduate. Possibly, not a very sound assumption.
Aha... Well, I've never attended an American School. It didn't occur to me that 101 designations meant college-level courses. I thoght it meant "the most basic entry-level in this field" as in...
Chemistry: "this is the difference between organic chmistry and non-organic", or like
Biology: "these are the basic organells in an animalic cell and here are two major features that differs from plant cells"
Physics: "This is what Rutherford did that made him realize that an atom consists of mostly empty space..."
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Posted - 07/01/2004 : 16:43:10 [Permalink]
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| 101 are entry level stuff for college. But they are always very basic, and have no prerequisites. |
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Dr. Mabuse
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Posted - 07/01/2004 : 17:10:54 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by Dude
101 are entry level stuff for college. But they are always very basic, and have no prerequisites.
Does this mean that Verlch could possibly start from scratch (as we have seen on this forum), take an 101-course even if he was a High School drop-out? |
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Dude
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Posted - 07/01/2004 : 19:40:26 [Permalink]
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| You have to have either a HS diploma or a GED to get entry into community colleges. So, if he's a dropout and has a GED, yes. He could get in. |
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Dave W.
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Posted - 07/01/2004 : 19:43:22 [Permalink]
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| "GED" being "General Equivalency Diploma," if I'm not mistaken. It means you've passed a test which shows that you know as much as the average high-school graduate. |
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Posted - 07/01/2004 : 19:46:23 [Permalink]
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| doh! Yeah, what dave W said. I forgot that you, living in Sweden, might not have the reference for that one. |
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Chippewa
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Posted - 07/01/2004 : 20:17:04 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by verlch...We still have not seen a new macro changed beast of the field....
The Auroch was the prehistoric ancestor of the modern dairy cow. Domesticated between 5 and 10 thousand years ago. That is a macro change helped along by artificial selection. The particular Auroch that the modern cow evolved from went extinct in the 15th century. There were no ancient dairy cows that were exactly like the modern dairy cow.
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Chippewa
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Posted - 07/02/2004 : 00:52:55 [Permalink]
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Chippewa, First time I'm hearing this, do you have any more information, such as the actual change that took place in the cow, or a possible link ...
Hi,
I'm remembering this from college biology 25 years ago, and not being a biologist I might be technically wrong in calling it a macro change, though 10,000 years is a short time for evolution. My point is, we've found no prehistoric cattle bones matching the modern cow.
Here's some information:
http://encyclopedia.thefreedictionary.com/aurochs |
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Dr. Mabuse
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Posted - 07/02/2004 : 14:17:08 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by Dave W.
"GED" being "General Equivalency Diploma," if I'm not mistaken. It means you've passed a test which shows that you know as much as the average high-school graduate.
That would obviously rule out Verlch when it comes to biology, chemistry(?), physics, and general science. And perhaps history as well... |
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