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welshdean
Skeptic Friend
United Kingdom
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 Posted - 07/22/2004 : 14:24:15
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Funeral? NO!
I've pleaded with my Missus about this, the only response I get is; "According to you, you're dead! You won't know what's going on will you? Although I've tried to explain that it doesn't fit with peoples memory of me, she still persists.
She has agreed to burn me and scatter my ashes in the Millennium Stadium* (It's highly illegal - but she'll do it 'great escape style', ie, down the old trouser leg on a tour of the ground). But she still insists on a service - which I detest the idea of.
I would like a 'wedding' type send off. Stand me up in a box, I'll provide for the party, and every one of my loved ones and friends can eat drink and be merry, whilst remembering the good times. No lamenting over the death of a friend. The only caveat being - they have to throw a drink over me - one per 'round'.
Why can't theists understand this.
*Millennium Stadium - Home ground of the Welsh Rugby Union. http://www.wru.co.uk/
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Ricky
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Dude
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Posted - 07/22/2004 : 15:34:36 [Permalink]
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| I'm going to be burned on a massive funeral pyre, and anyone who expects to get any of my stuff is going to have to come watch me burn and dance naked around the fire while drinking large ammounts of beer. |
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Ricky
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filthy
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Posted - 07/22/2004 : 18:43:15 [Permalink]
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As I am a Frisbeetarian, I will be tossed up on the roof never to come down.
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Dave W.
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Posted - 07/22/2004 : 19:52:14 [Permalink]
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When my wife dies, she says if anyone insists on a "viewing," I've got to rig her body up so that at random times, she'll sit up in the coffin and wave, at which point a recorded voice will say, "don't I look natural?"
I'm of the same mind as her. We've both decided on cremation, after which we'll have a nice party with lots of food and drink, the urn sitting in a corner someplace. After the party, the urn gets shoved underneath a particular floorboard. A second urn will join the first when the time comes. That's as much sentimentality as we can handle. |
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Renae
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Posted - 07/22/2004 : 20:23:22 [Permalink]
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You guys are funny. In a GOOD way.
My grandmother bought me a funeral plot next to hers and my grandfather's just before she died. So when I visit her grave, I'm actually walking over my OWN grave.
Almost-kinda-creepy. Sorta. |
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Ricky
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ConsequentAtheist
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Posted - 07/23/2004 : 03:44:01 [Permalink]
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quote:
Originally posted by welshdean
Funeral? NO!
Funerals, including humanist services, are means by which the living begin to deal with loss. Condider being less thoughtless and more compassionate towards your wife and, if/should you have any, children. |
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Valiant Dancer
Forum Goalie
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Posted - 07/23/2004 : 05:59:28 [Permalink]
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quote:
Originally posted by welshdean
Funeral? NO!
I've pleaded with my Missus about this, the only response I get is; "According to you, you're dead! You won't know what's going on will you? Although I've tried to explain that it doesn't fit with peoples memory of me, she still persists.
She has agreed to burn me and scatter my ashes in the Millennium Stadium* (It's highly illegal - but she'll do it 'great escape style', ie, down the old trouser leg on a tour of the ground). But she still insists on a service - which I detest the idea of.
I would like a 'wedding' type send off. Stand me up in a box, I'll provide for the party, and every one of my loved ones and friends can eat drink and be merry, whilst remembering the good times. No lamenting over the death of a friend. The only caveat being - they have to throw a drink over me - one per 'round'.
Why can't theists understand this.
*Millennium Stadium - Home ground of the Welsh Rugby Union. http://www.wru.co.uk/
Sort of like the stereotypical Irish wake where the mourners get blotto and celebrate the deceased life.
My service, as my wife knows and accepts, is that there is no viewing of the shell, or embalming. I am to be cremated and spread in a forest preserve. The service will reflect my faith and serve to comfort those I leave behind. After all, I'm not there to direct it or enjoy it. The service only exists to give a sense of closure to the survivors. |
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ktesibios
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Posted - 07/23/2004 : 12:22:54 [Permalink]
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quote:
Originally posted by Ricky
As for me, right now I really don't care what happens to me after I die, as I think that my consciousness will also go with me, so what exactly happens doesn't make a difference. (Hahaha, sorry, I couldn't resist, but lets try to keep that in only one topic...) The one thing that I will do is leave my wife my 2nd best bed.
Shakespeare fan, eh?
As for me, I'd really prefer that my carcass be drug out in the woods and left on the ground so as to put my nutrients back into circulation properly.
That's probably totally illegal, so I guess I'd settle for having my cremated remains scattered on ground where plants are growing. At least I ought to contribute some minerals that way.  |
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Ricky
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tomk80
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Posted - 07/23/2004 : 15:47:33 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by Ricky
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That's probably totally illegal, so I guess I'd settle for having my cremated remains scattered on ground where plants are growing. At least I ought to contribute some minerals that way.
I don't know, are there any laws concering with how to deal with dead bodies? Has it ever been a problem?
Well, without having read anything about it, I could imagine there being laws about where to put your dead bodies. I mean, wouldn't want to walk around in the forest with my dogs, and have them returning with a piece of human bone (some flesh still atached). And then the explanation of the police: "yeah, the guy wanted to return his minerals to the earth, so we thought we'd just leave him there." 
I could imagine that you'd want to regulate things a bit. |
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Dave W.
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Posted - 07/23/2004 : 18:43:10 [Permalink]
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Ricky wrote:quote:
I don't know, are there any laws concering with how to deal with dead bodies? Has it ever been a problem?
Yes. Down in Florida just a year or so ago (if memory serves), a few people were charged with "improper handling of human remains." Seems they were offering "discount crematorium" services, but just dumping the bodies in a big hole and handing the bereaved an urn full of wood ash.
On the other hand, about five or so years ago (again, if memory serves) a couple of guys in California stole a friend's body, and the state could only charge them with theft - or something to that effect. It wasn't illegal for them to have a dead human body, but it was illegal for them to steal it. This one is awfully faded in my head, though. I seem to recall that the dead guy's wife wanted to do something (like cremate him) which the friends didn't think their buddy wanted.
At any rate, both stories serve as a reminder that state and local laws are many and varied from jurisdiction to juridiction. Calling your local magistrate's office could be a good way to find out about dead body laws. They're used to getting (and answering) all sorts of wacky questions, especially when the weather is bad and the citizenry has nothing better to do than think up bizarre stuff. The nearest state police barracks will usually have someone knowledgable in the law answering the phone, too - I've called mine numerous times with strange law questions, and received straight-forward answers. |
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Trish
SFN Addict
USA
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Posted - 07/23/2004 : 19:04:02 [Permalink]
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| My kid has been instructed to cremate me and toss the ashes. If she wants, she can have some kind of party, but nothing religious. I should at least make it long enough where she can make the decision. |
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Dude
SFN Die Hard
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Posted - 07/23/2004 : 19:41:13 [Permalink]
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I don't know, are there any laws concering with how to deal with dead bodies? Has it ever been a problem?
Human remains, nowdays, fall under biohazardous waste in alot of places. Proper disposal is needed.
But historically I bet the idea of burial rituals and the like were created to deal with the hazard dead bodies represent. Alot of dead bodies will lead to sickness.
Leonardo da Vinci (I think, or one of his famous contemporaries) became very sick when he got permission to disect some human remains back in the day.... he was wanting to make more accurate depictions of the human form... |
Ignorance is preferable to error; and he is less remote from the truth who believes nothing, than he who believes what is wrong.
-- Thomas Jefferson
"god :: the last refuge of a man with no answers and no argument." - G. Carlin
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