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verlch
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 Posted - 01/11/2005 : 13:31:12 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by Dude
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Igonrance? there is no direct evidence of evolving from monkies.
And you so kindly demonstrate your TOTAL ignorance, yet again, as you have done countless times here, about the ToE.
Thank you for driving my point home with that bit of evidence verlch.
Maybe one of these days you will bother to learn the concept of common decent, rather than the straw-man bullshit about monkies that you are so fond of. The evidence in support of common decent is staggering in it's volume. You chose to ignore all of it.
Your ignorance stands unparalleled on the SFN. (though some do come close)
Yeah uh huh, with all those 500 million year old "perfect" fossils we should find some perfect, many million perhaps, of fish transforming into a higher order, and our recent realations with the order of monkies.
Anyways, science has done something right and true for a change. They found three stars so big, that there are bigger than the orbit of Jupiter! I almost lost my lunch at the size of those babies.
The last stars I heard about where around mars orbit, and I thought those where huge. I'm sure there are bigger ones! |
What came first the chicken or the egg?
How do plants exist without bugs in the soil, and bugs in the soil without plants producing oxygen?
There are no atheists in foxholes
Underlying the evolutionary theory is not just the classic "stuff" of science — conclusions arrived at through prolonged observation and experimentation. Evolution is first an atheistic, materialistic world view. In other words, the primary reason for its acceptance has little to do with the evidence for or against it. Evolution is accepted because men are atheists by faith and thus interpret the evidence to cor-respond to their naturalistic philosophy.
For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears; And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables. II Timothy 4:3,4
II Thess. 2:11 And for this cause God shall
send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:
You can not see the 'wind', but you can see its effect!!!!
Evolution was caused by genetic mistakes at each stage?
Radical Evolution has 500 million years to find fossils of fictional drawings of (hard core)missing links, yet they find none.
We have not seen such moral darkness since the dark ages, coencides with
teaching evolution in schools. (Moral darkness)
For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places, EPH 6:12.
"Thus, many scientists embracing naturalism find themselves in the seeming dilemma recently articulated by biochemist Franklin Harold: "We should reject, as a matter of principle, the substitution of intelligent design for the dialogue of chance and necessity [i.e., Darwinian evolution]; but we must concede that there are presently no detailed Darwinian accounts of the evolution of any biochemical system, only a variety of wishful speculations."
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verlch
SFN Regular
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Posted - 01/11/2005 : 13:59:26 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by Valiant Dancer
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Originally posted by Starman
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Originally posted by Valiant Dancer
1) We are the highest evolved mammals on this planet...
Where did this strange claim come from? 
From my ass. It is widely believed and something verlch might accept.
Oh for crying out loud. You guys don't believe you are at the top of the food chain on this planet? The bible says we are the highest authority of all the species on the planet that you seem to believe, with alot of faith, that we evolved from. Now you are competing with Dolphins for the top spot. Hmmm, sometimes the evolving stuff, really throws me for a loop....lol.... |
What came first the chicken or the egg?
How do plants exist without bugs in the soil, and bugs in the soil without plants producing oxygen?
There are no atheists in foxholes
Underlying the evolutionary theory is not just the classic "stuff" of science — conclusions arrived at through prolonged observation and experimentation. Evolution is first an atheistic, materialistic world view. In other words, the primary reason for its acceptance has little to do with the evidence for or against it. Evolution is accepted because men are atheists by faith and thus interpret the evidence to cor-respond to their naturalistic philosophy.
For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears; And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables. II Timothy 4:3,4
II Thess. 2:11 And for this cause God shall
send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:
You can not see the 'wind', but you can see its effect!!!!
Evolution was caused by genetic mistakes at each stage?
Radical Evolution has 500 million years to find fossils of fictional drawings of (hard core)missing links, yet they find none.
We have not seen such moral darkness since the dark ages, coencides with
teaching evolution in schools. (Moral darkness)
For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places, EPH 6:12.
"Thus, many scientists embracing naturalism find themselves in the seeming dilemma recently articulated by biochemist Franklin Harold: "We should reject, as a matter of principle, the substitution of intelligent design for the dialogue of chance and necessity [i.e., Darwinian evolution]; but we must concede that there are presently no detailed Darwinian accounts of the evolution of any biochemical system, only a variety of wishful speculations."
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filthy
SFN Die Hard
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Posted - 01/11/2005 : 15:11:14 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by verlch
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Originally posted by Valiant Dancer
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Originally posted by Starman
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Originally posted by Valiant Dancer
1) We are the highest evolved mammals on this planet...
Where did this strange claim come from?
From my ass. It is widely believed and something verlch might accept.
Oh for crying out loud. You guys don't believe you are at the top of the food chain on this planet? The bible says we are the highest authority of all the species on the planet that you seem to believe, with alot of faith, that we evolved from. Now you are competing with Dolphins for the top spot. Hmmm, sometimes the evolving stuff, really throws me for a loop....lol....
No verlch, we are not at the top of the food chain. Lots of beasties feast upon our succulent bodies and some are quite likely to be doing so, even as we speak. And when we become naked beach-apes, we enter a whole 'nother food chain that we are even farther from the top of than ever.
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Dude
SFN Die Hard
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Posted - 01/11/2005 : 19:21:28 [Permalink]
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Bacteria are clearly at the top of the food chain on this planet. They consume us indiscriminately, and often there is little or nothing we can do about it.
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Starman
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Posted - 01/12/2005 : 00:27:19 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by verlch
Oh for crying out loud. You guys don't believe you are at the top of the food chain on this planet?
I will bring it into discussion if I ever meet a Panthera tigris or perhaps a Carcharodon carcharias. I hope they will be impressed.quote:
The bible says we are the highest authority of all the species on the planet that you seem to believe, with alot of faith, that we evolved from.
The Bible is full of absurd and outdated ideas.
The species that we evolved from are long gone. quote:
Hmmm, sometimes the evolving stuff, really throws me for a loop....lol....
Try to duck a bit. It usually seems to pass way above your head.. |
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Starman
SFN Regular
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Posted - 01/12/2005 : 01:43:19 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by Valiant Dancer
It is widely believed and something verlch might accept.
The claim or... ...ehrm... ...your donkey?
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verlch
SFN Regular
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Posted - 01/12/2005 : 01:56:01 [Permalink]
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The Bible is full of absurd and outdated ideas.
The species that we evolved from are long gone.
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Yeah the fossils are long gone....ehrm....also!!!
Oh so now I evolved from a donkey...I'll buy it, since I can see so many creatures making GIANT leaps and transforming...keif...tuff...chee...teech....into other creatures. Macro Evolution is something I observe in nature every single day! |
What came first the chicken or the egg?
How do plants exist without bugs in the soil, and bugs in the soil without plants producing oxygen?
There are no atheists in foxholes
Underlying the evolutionary theory is not just the classic "stuff" of science — conclusions arrived at through prolonged observation and experimentation. Evolution is first an atheistic, materialistic world view. In other words, the primary reason for its acceptance has little to do with the evidence for or against it. Evolution is accepted because men are atheists by faith and thus interpret the evidence to cor-respond to their naturalistic philosophy.
For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears; And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables. II Timothy 4:3,4
II Thess. 2:11 And for this cause God shall
send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:
You can not see the 'wind', but you can see its effect!!!!
Evolution was caused by genetic mistakes at each stage?
Radical Evolution has 500 million years to find fossils of fictional drawings of (hard core)missing links, yet they find none.
We have not seen such moral darkness since the dark ages, coencides with
teaching evolution in schools. (Moral darkness)
For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places, EPH 6:12.
"Thus, many scientists embracing naturalism find themselves in the seeming dilemma recently articulated by biochemist Franklin Harold: "We should reject, as a matter of principle, the substitution of intelligent design for the dialogue of chance and necessity [i.e., Darwinian evolution]; but we must concede that there are presently no detailed Darwinian accounts of the evolution of any biochemical system, only a variety of wishful speculations."
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Starman
SFN Regular
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Posted - 01/12/2005 : 02:11:41 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by verlch
Oh so now I evolved from a donkey...
With this lack of reading comprehension it is easy to understand how you can believe in biblical inerrancy. |
"Any religion that makes a form of torture into an icon that they worship seems to me a pretty sick sort of religion quite honestly"
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furshur
SFN Regular
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Posted - 01/12/2005 : 06:30:28 [Permalink]
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Verlich I would agree that we are at the top of the food chain. Sharks sometimes eat people, but we eat about 10,000 sharks for each person eaten. We are also the most intelligent creatures on the planet.
We are NOT the most evolved however. Apes are just as evolved as we are. I know that this probably seems incredible to you, but that is because you don't have a clue about the TOE.
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Valiant Dancer
Forum Goalie
USA
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Posted - 01/12/2005 : 08:13:19 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by Starman
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Originally posted by Valiant Dancer
It is widely believed and something verlch might accept.
The claim or... ...ehrm... ...your donkey?
The unsupported assertation. It is a perception that is common in the US. |
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Mathew
New Member
Sweden
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Posted - 01/17/2005 : 15:24:17 [Permalink]
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Okay I'm new here and read the Forum-rules to pay some respect!
The first thread I open shock me with a Flamewar and imature Blamegames
Verlich constantly referes to the Bibleverses and in return you insult him.
Instead of Question Him you Ought to bring up some Evidence of your Evolutionary belief
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Valiant Dancer
Forum Goalie
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Posted - 01/17/2005 : 15:37:21 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by Mathew
Okay I'm new here and read the Forum-rules to pay some respect!
The first thread I open shock me with a Flamewar and imature Blamegames
Verlich constantly referes to the Bibleverses and in return you insult him.
Instead of Question Him you Ought to bring up some Evidence of your Evolutionary belief
Been there. Done that. verlch responds with arguements on Satan, women are evil, claims that he is speaking for God, and general dick waving. He has yet to directly respond to any refutation.
Welcome to the board. Perhaps if you checked some earlier posts by verlch, our frustration and vehemence might be better understood. |
Cthulhu/Asmodeus when you're tired of voting for the lesser of two evils
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Dude
SFN Die Hard
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Posted - 01/17/2005 : 17:51:52 [Permalink]
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Instead of Question Him you Ought to bring up some Evidence of your Evolutionary belief
We have presented evidence to verlch repeatedly, extensively, and in abundance.
He totally ignores it.
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Ignorance is preferable to error; and he is less remote from the truth who believes nothing, than he who believes what is wrong.
-- Thomas Jefferson
"god :: the last refuge of a man with no answers and no argument." - G. Carlin
Hope, n.
The handmaiden of desperation; the opiate of despair; the illegible signpost on the road to perdition. ~~ da filth |
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Mathew
New Member
Sweden
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Posted - 01/17/2005 : 18:36:26 [Permalink]
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OK, thnx maybe I will find some objective respons in the older threads then |
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Dr. Mabuse
Septic Fiend
Sweden
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Posted - 01/17/2005 : 21:35:39 [Permalink]
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Välkommen hit, Mathew!
Indeed, Valiant Dancer is right. There are numerous old threads in which Verlch just go on like a broken record. |
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