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Doomar
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Posted - 12/02/2004 :  02:57:53   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Doomar's Homepage Send Doomar a Private Message
Kerry Team Seeks to Join Fight to Get Ohio County to Recount

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A23344-2004Nov30.html

The Washington Post
Wednesday 01 December 2004

Sen. John F. Kerry's presidential campaign asked an Ohio judge yesterday
to allow it....

Finally getting involved?

Mark 10:27 (NKJV) 27But Jesus looked at them and said, “With men it is impossible, but not with God; for with God all things are possible.”

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Doomar
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Posted - 12/02/2004 :  03:04:17   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Doomar's Homepage Send Doomar a Private Message
Hypocrisy Sans Irony

Double Standards on Exit Polls

http://www.counterpunch.org/lindorff11232004.html

November 24, 2004
By DAVE LINDORFF

A bitterly contested presidential election was held recently. The
opposition candidate lost narrowly, by less than three percent of the vote,
but now a large segment of the electorate is crying foul...




"Indeed, a University of Pennsylvania researcher, studying those exit poll
results, has concluded that the consistent shift from Kerry to Bush from
exit poll prediction to official tally result is a statistical
impossibility, leaving fraud as the only explanation."


Read this for some eye opening comparisons.

Mark 10:27 (NKJV) 27But Jesus looked at them and said, “With men it is impossible, but not with God; for with God all things are possible.”

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Doomar
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Posted - 12/02/2004 :  03:45:39   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Doomar's Homepage Send Doomar a Private Message
Taken from an article : 'Stinking Evidence' of Possible Election Fraud Found in Florida
by Thom Hartmann
http://www.commondreams.org/views04/1118-22.htm


"As she told me on her cell phone while driving toward their next destination, "We just put Volusia County and their lawyers on notice that they need to continue to keep a number of documents under seal, including all of the memory cards to the ballot boxes, and all of the signed poll tapes."

Why?

"Simple," she said. "Because we found anomalies indicative of fraud." "


Oh man! You've got to read this whole article!

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Doomar
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Posted - 12/02/2004 :  03:48:45   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Doomar's Homepage Send Doomar a Private Message
"Two aspects of this are immediately striking. One is the large size of the
variance, and the other is that in every case it favoured Bush."

Read the whole article at: http://www.commondreams.org/views04/1118-22.htm

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Doomar
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Posted - 12/02/2004 :  03:57:21   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Doomar's Homepage Send Doomar a Private Message
Taken from: http://www.opednews.com/fitrakis_111804_ohio_hearings.htm

Erin Deignan, Columbus:
“I was an official poll worker judge in precinct Columbus 25 F, at the East Linden School. We had between 1100 and 1200 people on the voter registry there. We had three voting machines. We did the math. I am sure lots of other people did too. With the five-minute limit, 13 hours the polls were open, three machines, that is 468 voters, that is less than half of the people we had on the registry. We stayed open three hours past 7:30 and got about 550 people through, but we had one Board of Elections worker come in the morning. We asked if he could bring more machines. He is said more machines had been delivered, but they didn't have any more. We had another Board of Elections official come later in the day, and he said that in Upper Arlington he had seen 12 machines.”
Is this evidence of voter suppression or what?

Mark 10:27 (NKJV) 27But Jesus looked at them and said, “With men it is impossible, but not with God; for with God all things are possible.”

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Doomar
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Posted - 12/02/2004 :  04:18:38   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Doomar's Homepage Send Doomar a Private Message
One key to the election theft of Ohio by GW Bush is voter suppression. This is what occurs when people are made to wait for extremely long times in poor conditions, or have polling places that are inaccessable to handicapped people, or various other means to limit the turn out. The most damning evidence of voter suppression in Ohio was the lack of voting machines provided in certain areas of the state. For the most part, these were urban areas with large numbers of democratic voters. This was the main reason for the long lines at the polls: not enough machines. Considering that the number of registered voters and the projected number of actual voters is easily figured for each area and the state as a whole, the only explanations for not providing this equipment is complete incompetence or planned voter suppression. This is criminal act in most states. Can anyone provide the law and its penalty for the state of Ohio?

Mark 10:27 (NKJV) 27But Jesus looked at them and said, “With men it is impossible, but not with God; for with God all things are possible.”

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Doomar
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Posted - 12/02/2004 :  04:45:45   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Doomar's Homepage Send Doomar a Private Message
Looks like it is a "fifth degree felony". Anyone know what the penalty of this crime is?

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Doomar
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Posted - 12/05/2004 :  22:20:58   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Doomar's Homepage Send Doomar a Private Message
Dead voters on rolls, other glitches found in 6 key states

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/chi-0412040222dec04,1,1925530.story?coll=chi-news-hed

By Geoff Dougherty, Tribune staff reporter. Tribune staff reporter Sarah
Frank contributed to this report from Washington
Published December 4, 2004


Some interesting stuff. Please read it.

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Doomar
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Posted - 12/05/2004 :  22:27:14   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Doomar's Homepage Send Doomar a Private Message
A verifiable-voting insurgency

http://www.roanoke.com/editorials/commentary%5C14736.html

December 02, 2004
by Colleen Redman
Redman, of Floyd, is a writer and poet.

Just as the U.S. invasion of Iraq seemed over with the fall of Baghdad, so
did the 2004 presidential election seem to end when John Kerry conceded.
But the war was hardly over when Bush prematurely claimed victory, and the
election isn't over, either...


Some good facts and points!

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Dr. Mabuse
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Posted - 12/06/2004 :  00:51:09   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Send Dr. Mabuse an ICQ Message Send Dr. Mabuse a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by Doomar

Dead voters on rolls, other glitches found in 6 key states

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/chi-0412040222dec04,1,1925530.story?coll=chi-news-hed

By Geoff Dougherty, Tribune staff reporter. Tribune staff reporter Sarah
Frank contributed to this report from Washington
Published December 4, 2004


Some interesting stuff. Please read it.

That page is inaccessable to me. Can you please do a rundown on what was said?

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Support American Troops in Iraq:
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Wendy
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Posted - 12/06/2004 :  11:23:28   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Send Wendy a Yahoo! Message Send Wendy a Private Message
Dr. Mabuse it's an article from the Chicago Tribune. Here are some highlights:

quote:
Dead voters on rolls, other glitches found in 6 key states
By Geoff Dougherty


A Tribune analysis of voter records suggests that more than 5,000 dead people remained on the rolls on Election Day in New Mexico. The presidential election there was decided by 6,000 votes.

And New Mexico is not alone. The Tribune's review of voter data there and in five other key states--Florida, Iowa, Ohio, Michigan and Minnesota--found widespread flaws in the integrity of voter rolls.

More than 181,000 dead people were listed on the rolls in the six swing states, despite efforts to clean up the country's voting system after the 2000 election.

Thousands more voters were registered to vote in two places, which could have allowed them to cast more than one ballot.

Further, more than 90,000 voters in Ohio cast ballots without a valid presidential choice. Either they decided not to choose a candidate, the machine failed to register their choice, or they mistakenly voted for more than one candidate.

And the FBI is investigating allegations that Republicans in Florida mounted a large-scale campaign to tamper with ballots.




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Doomar
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Posted - 12/06/2004 :  22:19:54   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Doomar's Homepage Send Doomar a Private Message
Warren County, Ohio: most successful voter registration drive in American
political history, or stuffing the ballot box

http://www.freepress.org/departments/display/19/2004/957

by Richard Hayes Phillips, Ph.D.
December 1, 2004

Everyone should be able to read this one. Sorry about the one requiring membership.

Mark 10:27 (NKJV) 27But Jesus looked at them and said, “With men it is impossible, but not with God; for with God all things are possible.”

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Doomar
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714 Posts

Posted - 12/06/2004 :  22:23:06   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Doomar's Homepage Send Doomar a Private Message
"Because there is no paper trail, our
current system does not offer grounds to question election results or
perform any type of honest recount. We would have no way of knowing if
ballots with a straight party ticket were being inadvertently tabulated for
the Libertarian candidate, as occurred this year in Indiana's 9th District.
Fortunately, the 9th District was able to catch this error because there
were paper ballots to recount. "

taken from Indiana elections need a voter-verified paper trail

http://www.courierpress.com/ecp/opinion/article/0,1626,ECP_794_3364378,00.html

By TAMMY BARNETT Special to the Courier & Press
December 1, 2004

I couldn't agree more that we need a verifiable paper trail in our ballot system!

Mark 10:27 (NKJV) 27But Jesus looked at them and said, “With men it is impossible, but not with God; for with God all things are possible.”

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Doomar
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Posted - 12/06/2004 :  22:25:15   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Doomar's Homepage Send Doomar a Private Message
"Green and Libertarian party candidates have raised the $113,600 required
to pay for a recount. A ruling by U.S. District Judge Edmund A. Sargus Jr.
on Friday, rejecting Delaware County's attempt to stop a recount, paved the
way for it to begin after Ohio's electors meet on Dec. 13."

from:

Challenges Planned to Ohio's Presidential Vote Totals

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A38036-2004Dec5.html

The Associated Press
Monday 06 December 2004


Mark 10:27 (NKJV) 27But Jesus looked at them and said, “With men it is impossible, but not with God; for with God all things are possible.”

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Doomar
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Posted - 12/06/2004 :  22:39:49   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Doomar's Homepage Send Doomar a Private Message
This should be in national headlines! This stuff makes Watergate look like kindergartner work.


Voter Suppression: STEALING VOTES IN OHIO URBAN AREAS (full documentation)

http://www.freepress.org/departments/display/19/2004/972

by Richard Hayes Phillips, Ph.D.
December 3, 2004

Voter Suppression: STEALING VOTES IN COLUMBUS

Mark 10:27 (NKJV) 27But Jesus looked at them and said, “With men it is impossible, but not with God; for with God all things are possible.”

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