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Doomar
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USA
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 Posted - 11/18/2004 : 12:16:39
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Depends on your point of view. If you're a huge tobacco company like Philip Morris, then tort reform is a great idea that will save you billions. If you are part of a group of smokers, dying from lung cancer, or some other horrible smoker related disease, tort reform will lower the value of your life. If you are the President of the U.S. with many big buddies with big corporations having muliple huge suits agains them for harmful activity, then tort reform is excellant and will get you goodies from these big buddies. If you are one of the unfortunates hurt by the practices of these large corps, then too bad, you can only sue for so much.
What is your point of view---any lawyers in the bunch?
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BigPapaSmurf
SFN Die Hard
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Posted - 11/18/2004 : 12:18:48 [Permalink]
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| My view, screw the tobacco companies, yet I still blame the smokers for the most part. |
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Doomar
SFN Regular
USA
714 Posts |
Posted - 11/18/2004 : 12:43:42 [Permalink]
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quote:
Originally posted by BigPapaSmurf
My view, screw the tobacco companies, yet I still blame the smokers for the most part. In September, according to a report in Tehran's daily Mardomsalari newspaper, a local court ordered a husband to stop beating his wife. However, the Iranian woman, identified only as Maryam J, said she would have accepted an order that just limited the beatings to once a week. "Beating is part of his nature," she said, "and he cannot stop it." The disconsolate husband said, "If I do not beat her, she will not be scared enough to obey me." [Indian Express-Press Trust of India, 9-22-04]
So, in context, we must beat the tobacco companies with huge lawsuits to limit their influence and spewing of death smoke? |
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beskeptigal
SFN Die Hard
USA
3834 Posts |
Posted - 11/18/2004 : 13:10:33 [Permalink]
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I think we need jury system reform, not tort reform. Jury science has become a method of manipulating court case outcomes. That can't be good.
And most of those big rewards get reduced by appellate courts or people settle for less so they can get the money before they die of old age.
The Innocence Project has pretty much proved how screwed up our criminal court system is. I would imagine the civil courts reflect the same problems with juries being found who can make the worst 'informed' decisions rather than the best informed. |
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BigPapaSmurf
SFN Die Hard
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Posted - 11/18/2004 : 13:32:03 [Permalink]
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No Im just saying most smokers should receive 0 benefits, maybe some of the really old folks who thought Smoking might actually cure something...
Gotta love the "he needs to beat me to let off aggression defense" |
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"...They accept such things on faith alone, without any evidence. So if a fraudulent and cunning person who knows how to take advantage of a situation comes among them, he can make himself rich in a short time." -Lucian critical of early Christians c.166 AD From his book, De Morte Peregrini |
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@tomic
Administrator
USA
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Posted - 11/18/2004 : 13:40:14 [Permalink]
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This is not just about tobacco. Many companies will allow harmful practices to continue whether that means selling bad product or having an unsafe working environment if their analysis concludes that they will lose less money in court than they will conducting business ethically. The threat of lawsuit is one of the checks and balances of our society that helps some corporations make the tough business decision to do the right thing.
Tobacco companies also misled many people for many years and use their money to buy influence so that they could go on as usual as long as possible. They did not always play fair and often targeted lesser educated groups and children with the likes of Joe Camel. Yeah, smokers be damned. But advertising works or there wouldn't be advertising. Promoting a lifystyle or a sense of coolness to those that really don't know better is not right. There is no penalty great enough for this kind of predatory behavior
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