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Chippewa
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 Posted - 12/14/2004 : 01:13:04 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by verlch
...We have laws there, they break them and that is the punishment. When you break a law in America you get punished by the law. Only a liberal would question the logic of that!...
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Renae
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Posted - 12/14/2004 : 06:51:29 [Permalink]
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V-man, you're either a troll who deliberately provokes reactions in others, or you're one sick f**k.
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verlch
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Posted - 12/14/2004 : 07:04:52 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by Renae
V-man, you're either a troll who deliberately provokes reactions in others, or you're one sick f**k.
Love,
Renae
Oh go fly a kite, and discover lightning. For showing that video? Sick? I'm sorry to say but you've been brainwashed by the liberal wild childs! |
What came first the chicken or the egg?
How do plants exist without bugs in the soil, and bugs in the soil without plants producing oxygen?
There are no atheists in foxholes
Underlying the evolutionary theory is not just the classic "stuff" of science — conclusions arrived at through prolonged observation and experimentation. Evolution is first an atheistic, materialistic world view. In other words, the primary reason for its acceptance has little to do with the evidence for or against it. Evolution is accepted because men are atheists by faith and thus interpret the evidence to cor-respond to their naturalistic philosophy.
For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears; And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables. II Timothy 4:3,4
II Thess. 2:11 And for this cause God shall
send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:
You can not see the 'wind', but you can see its effect!!!!
Evolution was caused by genetic mistakes at each stage?
Radical Evolution has 500 million years to find fossils of fictional drawings of (hard core)missing links, yet they find none.
We have not seen such moral darkness since the dark ages, coencides with
teaching evolution in schools. (Moral darkness)
For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places, EPH 6:12.
"Thus, many scientists embracing naturalism find themselves in the seeming dilemma recently articulated by biochemist Franklin Harold: "We should reject, as a matter of principle, the substitution of intelligent design for the dialogue of chance and necessity [i.e., Darwinian evolution]; but we must concede that there are presently no detailed Darwinian accounts of the evolution of any biochemical system, only a variety of wishful speculations."
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Renae
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Posted - 12/14/2004 : 07:10:39 [Permalink]
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No, you sick f**k, I AM a liberal wild child. I'm your worst nightmare: a pagan leftist with a size four ass.
And you're sick for getting off on violence. Period.
Also, you seem to lack an understanding that Iraq is THEIR COUNTRY. We are killing Iraquis on Iraqui soil.
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verlch
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Posted - 12/14/2004 : 07:23:31 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by Chippewa
quote:
Originally posted by verlch
...We have laws there, they break them and that is the punishment. When you break a law in America you get punished by the law. Only a liberal would question the logic of that!...
Oh, a liberal, like Jesus.
Your an evolutionist remember, you evolved from fishes and monkies. I'm from ID. What does Jesus have to do with liberals? From what I read about him in the bible he sounds like a pretty well intending Being.
"Jesus said, If your leaders say to you, 'Look, the kingdom is in the sky,' then the birds of the sky will precede you. If they say, 'It is in the sea,' then the fish will precede you. Rather, the kingdom is within you and it is outside you." - The Gospel of Thomas
The Bible, Matthew 17:20: Bible Quotes
I tell you the truth, if you have faith as small as a mustard seed, you can say to this mountain, "Move from here to there" and it will move.
#8220;Teacher, which is the great commandment in the law? Jesus said to him, You shall love the Lord your God with all your heart, and with all your soul, and with all your mind. This is the great and first commandment. And a second is like it, You shall love your neighbor as yourself.
God blesses those whose hearts are pure, for they will see God.
--Matthew 5:8
Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth
--1 Corinthians 13:6
Do not store up for yourselves treasures on earth, where moth and rust destroy, and where thieves break in and steal. But store up for yourselves treasures in heaven, where moth and rust do not destroy, and where thieves do not break in and steal. For where your treasure is, there your heart will be also.
--Matthew 6:19-21
For what profit is it to a man if he gains the whole world, and lose his own soul? Or what will a man give in exchange for his soul?
--Matthew 16:26
If I speak in the tongues of men and of angels, but have not love, I am only a resounding gong or a clanging cymbal. If I have the gift of prophecy and can fathom all mysteries and all knowledge, and if I have a faith that can move mountains, but have not love, I am nothing. If I give all I possess to the poor and surrender my body to the flames, but have not love I gain nothing Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. It is not rude, it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. It always protects, always trusts, always perseveres. Love never fails. But where there are prophecies, they will cease; where there are tongues, they will be stilled; where there is knowledge, it will pass away...And now these things remain: faith, hope and love. But the greatest of these is love.
--1 Corinthians 13:1-8, 13
Be of good cheer; I have overcome the world
--John 16:33
Don't forget to be kind to strangers. For some who have done this have entertained angels without realizing it.
--Hebrews 13:2
For everything there is a season,
And a time for every matter under heaven:
A time to be born, and a time to die;
A time to plant, and a time to pluck up what is planted;
A time to kill, and a time to heal;
A time to break down, and a time to build up;
A time to weep, and a time to laugh;
A time to mourn, and a time to dance;
A time to throw away stones, And a time to gather stones together;
A time to embrace, And a time to refrain from embracing;
A time to seek, and a time to lose;
A time to keep, and a time to throw away;
A time to tear, and a time to sew;
A time to keep silence, and a time to speak;
A time to love, and a time to hate,
A time for war, and a time for peace.
--Ecclesiastes 3: 1-8
But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness and self-control.
--Galatians 5:22-23
For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.
--John 3:16
Seems like a wonderful Being to me! Full of love for us and commands that we love one another. This is the Lord of Hosts and you dislike Him? What has He done to you?
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What came first the chicken or the egg?
How do plants exist without bugs in the soil, and bugs in the soil without plants producing oxygen?
There are no atheists in foxholes
Underlying the evolutionary theory is not just the classic "stuff" of science — conclusions arrived at through prolonged observation and experimentation. Evolution is first an atheistic, materialistic world view. In other words, the primary reason for its acceptance has little to do with the evidence for or against it. Evolution is accepted because men are atheists by faith and thus interpret the evidence to cor-respond to their naturalistic philosophy.
For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears; And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables. II Timothy 4:3,4
II Thess. 2:11 And for this cause God shall
send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:
You can not see the 'wind', but you can see its effect!!!!
Evolution was caused by genetic mistakes at each stage?
Radical Evolution has 500 million years to find fossils of fictional drawings of (hard core)missing links, yet they find none.
We have not seen such moral darkness since the dark ages, coencides with
teaching evolution in schools. (Moral darkness)
For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places, EPH 6:12.
"Thus, many scientists embracing naturalism find themselves in the seeming dilemma recently articulated by biochemist Franklin Harold: "We should reject, as a matter of principle, the substitution of intelligent design for the dialogue of chance and necessity [i.e., Darwinian evolution]; but we must concede that there are presently no detailed Darwinian accounts of the evolution of any biochemical system, only a variety of wishful speculations."
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Ricky
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Valiant Dancer
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Posted - 12/14/2004 : 08:01:32 [Permalink]
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Here I was simply showing you aggressive dudes a video. I'm done with the personal attacks. I think for myself and nobody is going to think for me, no matter how liberal or Politically correct you are. The PC police can pound sand as far as I'm concerned!!!
Erm, I don't think people are criticizing you because of your politics here, and they aren't being "Politically correct". They are calling you on your hypocrisy, regardless of your politics. And anyway, you are calling us aggressive when you are the one with the post title "Kill Zone". How can you watch that video, but you can't take a little verbal criticism? What does "pound sand" mean anyway? 
"Pound sand" = part of a phrase "go pound sand up your ass". Indicates complete contempt for dissent. (I have an idea that this behavior is not surprising for you considering verlch's track record.) |
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Valiant Dancer
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Posted - 12/14/2004 : 08:10:26 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by filthy
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Originally posted by verlch
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Originally posted by Shacal
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Here I was simply showing you aggressive dudes a video. I'm done with the personal attacks. I think for myself and nobody is going to think for me, no matter how liberal or Politically correct you are. The PC police can pound sand as far as I'm concerned!!!
Erm, I don't think people are criticizing you because of your politics here, and they aren't being "Politically correct". They are calling you on your hypocrisy, regardless of your politics. And anyway, you are calling us aggressive when you are the one with the post title "Kill Zone". How can you watch that video, but you can't take a little verbal criticism? What does "pound sand" mean anyway?
I'm not going to let you or anybody think for me. Look there is a video, now lets judge the guy that put it there! Let's not just get behind our troops, lets get behind our leader. Or you can move to Canada or France!
No, no verlch. Canada and France are places I dearly love, having spent a fair amount of time in both, but I am an American. Currently a dissenting American. I served my country in uniform for many years and I will continue to serve. But that service does not mean I have to mindlessly support that despicable, little pig-fucker in the White House. Quite the contrary.
I think it was Bobby Kennedy, correct me if I'm wrong, that said something to the effect that often dissent is the highest form of patriotism.
Think about it.
"To announce that there must be no criticism of the president, or that we are to stand by the president, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public." -- President Theodore Roosevelt, 1918
"Dissent is the highest form of patriotism." -- Thomas Jefferson
"Patriotism means to stand by the country. It does not mean to stand by the president or any other public official, save exactly to the degree in which he himself stands by the country. It is patriotic to support him insofar as he efficiently serves the country. It is unpatriotic not to oppose him to the exact extent that by inefficiently or otherwise he fails in his duty to stand by the country. In either event, it is unpatriotic not to tell the truth, whether about the president or anyone else." -- President Theodore Roosevelt, 1899
"Here in America we are descended in spirit from revolutionaries and rebels—men and women who dare to dissent from accepted opinion." -- President Dwight D. Eisenhower
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filthy
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Posted - 12/14/2004 : 09:17:52 [Permalink]
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Thanks, Val. I knew that Bobby said a profound one. but I didn't remember what. I'll look it up a little later.
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"What luck for rulers that men do not think." -- Adolf Hitler (1889 - 1945)
"If only we could impeach on the basis of criminal stupidity, 90% of the Rethuglicans and half of the Democrats would be thrown out of office." ~~ P.Z. Myres
"The default position of human nature is to punch the other guy in the face and take his stuff." ~~ Dude
Brother Boot Knife of Warm Humanitarianism,
and Crypto-Communist! 
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filthy
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Posted - 12/14/2004 : 09:38:31 [Permalink]
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Oh go fly a kite, and discover lightning. For showing that video? Sick? I'm sorry to say but you've been brainwashed by the liberal wild childs!
Lightning was not discovered by flying a kite. What Doctor Franklin (a personal hero of mine) established was that lightning was a form of electricity, a phenomena already pretty well known.
I have no problem with the posting of the video, even though it was in questionable taste. The problem I have is with the attitude it was presented with.
Verlch, you ignore history as does our current 'war president'  , and his equally ignorant minions. It has been said that those who do not learn from history are doomed to repeat it. And so, we are repeating history, to our detrement. Iraq will be the downfall of many, and not just Iraqis.
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"What luck for rulers that men do not think." -- Adolf Hitler (1889 - 1945)
"If only we could impeach on the basis of criminal stupidity, 90% of the Rethuglicans and half of the Democrats would be thrown out of office." ~~ P.Z. Myres
"The default position of human nature is to punch the other guy in the face and take his stuff." ~~ Dude
Brother Boot Knife of Warm Humanitarianism,
and Crypto-Communist!
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Ricky
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Shacal
Skeptic Friend
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Posted - 12/14/2004 : 09:59:14 [Permalink]
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originally posted by Verlch
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originally posted by Chippewa
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Originally posted by verlch
...We have laws there, they break them and that is the punishment. When you break a law in America you get punished by the law. Only a liberal would question the logic of that!...
Oh, a liberal, like Jesus.
originally posted by Verlch
Your an evolutionist remember, you evolved from fishes and monkies. I'm from ID. What does Jesus have to do with liberals? From what I read about him in the bible he sounds like a pretty well intending Being.
You then go on to quote bible verses with no explanation of their significance.
I think Chippewa was trying to get you to see the ways in which Jesus was like contemporary liberals. Your verses don't disprove this in any way. By "well intending Being", I assume you are implying that liberals can't be well-intending. That is a faulty argument, and if you'd like I could list well-intending liberals, but I think you don't really believe this.
If you would like some examples of Jesus having liberal tendecies, how about the verse about a rich man being unable to get into heaven? How about leave what is Ceaser's to Ceaser (suggesting seperation of church and state). What about all that stuff about peace?
By the way thanks for the definition, Valiant Dancer. Nice guy, that Verlch, a real Christian...
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Valiant Dancer
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Posted - 12/14/2004 : 11:10:38 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by filthy
Thanks, Val. I knew that Bobby said a profound one. but I didn't remember what. I'll look it up a little later.
"What is objectionable, what is dangerous about extremists, is not that they are extreme, but that they are intolerant. The evil is not what they say about their cause, but what they say about their opponents." -- Robert Kenedy
"The sharpest criticism often goes hand in hand with the deepest idealism and love of country." -- Robert Kennedy, Address, Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, February 24, 1967
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Chippewa
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Posted - 12/14/2004 : 11:36:08 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by verlch
...What does Jesus have to do with liberals? From what I read about him in the bible he sounds like a pretty well intending Being. Seems like a wonderful Being to me! Full of love for us and commands that we love one another...
Oh, Jesus, like a liberal.
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