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verlch
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781 Posts

Posted - 12/14/2004 :  19:18:54   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Send verlch an AOL message Send verlch a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by Renae

No, you sick f**k, I AM a liberal wild child. I'm your worst nightmare: a pagan leftist with a size four ass.

And you're sick for getting off on violence. Period.

Also, you seem to lack an understanding that Iraq is THEIR COUNTRY. We are killing Iraquis on Iraqui soil.

Got it yet?



Oh go shout at your kids. I bet if you were around in the American Revolution you would be the first one shouting 'Baby killers' at our troops! We are at war because our government thinks we should be there, how am I getting off on violence in your femmed out sphere? Did I declare war on Iraq, no lady. What should we send em' flowers instead of bombs. Yeah that will get the point across. Or better yet make em' all sit time out!

We have 3000 Americans jumping off a building to their deaths and you want to marry Iraq's terroists by defending them? Do you know that many of them beat their wives senseless every day? Here you are defending them?


I have to go to war to defend the likes of you. No thanks. If any foreign country invades the USA you can be the one out there doing their dishes. After they kill me and every other male in America, you can see how other men in different countries treat their women. Then for a few minutes you might actually miss us and all the freedom you had wandering around buying cats and a million pairs of shoes!

If you have kids do you kiss them with that filthy mouth of yours? Iraq hates America, Afganistan hates America there are men in these areas that fund terrorists that desire to have us dead. We are at war with these men, not the women, not the children. These men can stay at home and play hide and go seek with their families and 99.9% of these calm none warring men with remain alive. For the others that desire to explode a bomb over your head and the head of American men doing the wishes of the very nation they serve, you desire that there is no discipline for their actions? Your a wimp and you deserve whatever you get in life.

What came first the chicken or the egg?

How do plants exist without bugs in the soil, and bugs in the soil without plants producing oxygen?

There are no atheists in foxholes

Underlying the evolutionary theory is not just the classic "stuff" of science — conclusions arrived at through prolonged observation and experimentation. Evolution is first an atheistic, materialistic world view. In other words, the primary reason for its acceptance has little to do with the evidence for or against it. Evolution is accepted because men are atheists by faith and thus interpret the evidence to cor-respond to their naturalistic philosophy.

For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears; And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables. II Timothy 4:3,4

II Thess. 2:11 And for this cause God shall
send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:

You can not see the 'wind', but you can see its effect!!!!

Evolution was caused by genetic mistakes at each stage?

Radical Evolution has 500 million years to find fossils of fictional drawings of (hard core)missing links, yet they find none.

We have not seen such moral darkness since the dark ages, coencides with
teaching evolution in schools. (Moral darkness)

For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places, EPH 6:12.

"Thus, many scientists embracing naturalism find themselves in the seeming dilemma recently articulated by biochemist Franklin Harold: "We should reject, as a matter of principle, the substitution of intelligent design for the dialogue of chance and necessity [i.e., Darwinian evolution]; but we must concede that there are presently no detailed Darwinian accounts of the evolution of any biochemical system, only a variety of wishful speculations."
Edited by - verlch on 12/14/2004 19:56:18
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Ricky
SFN Die Hard

USA
4907 Posts

Posted - 12/14/2004 :  19:34:39   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Send Ricky an AOL message Send Ricky a Private Message
Ignoring the rest of the post for obvious reasons...

quote:
Do you know that many of them beat their wives senseless every day? Here you are defending them?


Verlch, congratulations. This is the closest I have seen you come to making a point. But what you fail to consider is that this happens in many countries, including our own. Why are we not attacking other countries where wives are beaten? Was that W's reason for going to war? Cause they beat their wives?

Edit:

quote:
Go make a baby.


Something you will most likely never do with your hatered of women.

Why continue? Because we must. Because we have the call. Because it is nobler to fight for rationality without winning than to give up in the face of continued defeats. Because whatever true progress humanity makes is through the rationality of the occasional individual and because any one individual we may win for the cause may do more for humanity than a hundred thousand who hug their superstitions to their breast.
- Isaac Asimov
Edited by - Ricky on 12/14/2004 19:35:43
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Paulos23
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USA
446 Posts

Posted - 12/14/2004 :  19:57:03   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Paulos23's Homepage Send Paulos23 a Private Message
Sorry Reene, but I just have to step in here....

quote:
Originally posted by verlch


Go make a baby.


Keep a civil tongue sir!

quote:
I bet if you were around in the American Revolution you would be the one shouting 'Baby killers' at our troops!



Not to put words in her Reene's mouth, but I am sure she would not be shouting that at the Americans, more likely she would be shouting that at the British who where the oppressers in that case, not us.

quote:
We are at war because our government thinks we should be there, how am I getting off on violence in your femmed out sphere? Did I declare war on Iraq, no lady. What should we send em' flowers instead of bombs. Yeah that will get the point across.



You are getting off on violence by posting a clip and saying how great it was. No you didn't delcare war on Iraq, but just because our government did does not make it a right and just war. It is against the UN rules, and unlike Afganistan, there was no clear link to the 9/11 attacks. We had no good reason to invade.

quote:

We have 3000 Americans jumping off a building to their deaths and you want to marry Iraq's terrorists by defending them? Do you know that many of them beat their wives senseless every day? Here you are defending them?



Now your being rude again. She is not defending Iraq's terrorists, she is making a point that some of the Iraq's fighting us think we should get out of their country and have little or no connection to terrorists. In fact many of them would not have joined the terrorists if we had not invaded Iraq. They see us as interlopers and medlers in their country and they want us out. This doesn't make them evil. In their minds they are doing what they think is right.

Now I am not saying we have our troops lay down their arms. They are in a combat zone and need to deffend themselves and the Iraqi civilans. But not every Iraqi is a terrorist, and not every Iraqi fighting us is a terrorist.


You can go wrong by being too skeptical as readily as by being too trusting. -- Robert A. Heinlein

Facts do not cease to exist because they are ignored. -- Aldous Huxley
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verlch
SFN Regular

781 Posts

Posted - 12/14/2004 :  20:21:41   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Send verlch an AOL message Send verlch a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by Paulos23

Sorry Reene, but I just have to step in here....

quote:
Originally posted by verlch


Go make a baby.


Keep a civil tongue sir!

quote:
I bet if you were around in the American Revolution you would be the one shouting 'Baby killers' at our troops!



Not to put words in her Reene's mouth, but I am sure she would not be shouting that at the Americans, more likely she would be shouting that at the British who where the oppressers in that case, not us.

quote:
We are at war because our government thinks we should be there, how am I getting off on violence in your femmed out sphere? Did I declare war on Iraq, no lady. What should we send em' flowers instead of bombs. Yeah that will get the point across.



You are getting off on violence by posting a clip and saying how great it was. No you didn't delcare war on Iraq, but just because our government did does not make it a right and just war. It is against the UN rules, and unlike Afganistan, there was no clear link to the 9/11 attacks. We had no good reason to invade.

quote:

We have 3000 Americans jumping off a building to their deaths and you want to marry Iraq's terrorists by defending them? Do you know that many of them beat their wives senseless every day? Here you are defending them?



Now your being rude again. She is not defending Iraq's terrorists, she is making a point that some of the Iraq's fighting us think we should get out of their country and have little or no connection to terrorists. In fact many of them would not have joined the terrorists if we had not invaded Iraq. They see us as interlopers and medlers in their country and they want us out. This doesn't make them evil. In their minds they are doing what they think is right.

Now I am not saying we have our troops lay down their arms. They are in a combat zone and need to deffend themselves and the Iraqi civilans. But not every Iraqi is a terrorist, and not every Iraqi fighting us is a terrorist.






Wow the knight in shining armor steps in. Didn't you know chivalry died in 1960. Along with the American dream. Defending her might get you a thank-you if your lucky. I better be careful she might stand inside a Pentagram and cast a spell on me!!! I'd better hide in the closet. I was born in March, what does that make me? A sagitoad? O Renae defender of all that is right and good? Lets consult those that mutter and peep to find out my f-u ture!

Don't tell me what to keep civil there defender of the free world. I think Renea has kept it wonderfully civil, wouldn't you say old chap?

What came first the chicken or the egg?

How do plants exist without bugs in the soil, and bugs in the soil without plants producing oxygen?

There are no atheists in foxholes

Underlying the evolutionary theory is not just the classic "stuff" of science — conclusions arrived at through prolonged observation and experimentation. Evolution is first an atheistic, materialistic world view. In other words, the primary reason for its acceptance has little to do with the evidence for or against it. Evolution is accepted because men are atheists by faith and thus interpret the evidence to cor-respond to their naturalistic philosophy.

For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears; And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables. II Timothy 4:3,4

II Thess. 2:11 And for this cause God shall
send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:

You can not see the 'wind', but you can see its effect!!!!

Evolution was caused by genetic mistakes at each stage?

Radical Evolution has 500 million years to find fossils of fictional drawings of (hard core)missing links, yet they find none.

We have not seen such moral darkness since the dark ages, coencides with
teaching evolution in schools. (Moral darkness)

For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places, EPH 6:12.

"Thus, many scientists embracing naturalism find themselves in the seeming dilemma recently articulated by biochemist Franklin Harold: "We should reject, as a matter of principle, the substitution of intelligent design for the dialogue of chance and necessity [i.e., Darwinian evolution]; but we must concede that there are presently no detailed Darwinian accounts of the evolution of any biochemical system, only a variety of wishful speculations."
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verlch
SFN Regular

781 Posts

Posted - 12/14/2004 :  20:37:31   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Send verlch an AOL message Send verlch a Private Message




You are getting off on violence by posting a clip and saying how great it was. No you didn't delcare war on Iraq, but just because our government did does not make it a right and just war. It is against the UN rules, and unlike Afganistan, there was no clear link to the 9/11 attacks. We had no good reason to invade.


I didn't realize how many fluffy fluffs there are around here. I was in shock and awe after viewing it. That's it, I didnt' state this 'rocks'. In fact I was taken back at the view of death.







What came first the chicken or the egg?

How do plants exist without bugs in the soil, and bugs in the soil without plants producing oxygen?

There are no atheists in foxholes

Underlying the evolutionary theory is not just the classic "stuff" of science — conclusions arrived at through prolonged observation and experimentation. Evolution is first an atheistic, materialistic world view. In other words, the primary reason for its acceptance has little to do with the evidence for or against it. Evolution is accepted because men are atheists by faith and thus interpret the evidence to cor-respond to their naturalistic philosophy.

For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears; And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables. II Timothy 4:3,4

II Thess. 2:11 And for this cause God shall
send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:

You can not see the 'wind', but you can see its effect!!!!

Evolution was caused by genetic mistakes at each stage?

Radical Evolution has 500 million years to find fossils of fictional drawings of (hard core)missing links, yet they find none.

We have not seen such moral darkness since the dark ages, coencides with
teaching evolution in schools. (Moral darkness)

For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places, EPH 6:12.

"Thus, many scientists embracing naturalism find themselves in the seeming dilemma recently articulated by biochemist Franklin Harold: "We should reject, as a matter of principle, the substitution of intelligent design for the dialogue of chance and necessity [i.e., Darwinian evolution]; but we must concede that there are presently no detailed Darwinian accounts of the evolution of any biochemical system, only a variety of wishful speculations."
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Paulos23
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USA
446 Posts

Posted - 12/14/2004 :  21:16:59   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Paulos23's Homepage Send Paulos23 a Private Message
quote:
Wow the knight in shining armor steps in. Didn't you know chivalry died in 1960. Along with the American dream. Defending her might get you a thank-you if your lucky. I better be careful she might stand inside a Pentagram and cast a spell on me!!! I'd better hide in the closet. I was born in March, what does that make me? A sagitoad? O Renae defender of all that is right and good? Lets consult those that mutter and peep to find out my f-u ture!

Don't tell me what to keep civil there defender of the free world. I think Renea has kept it wonderfully civil, wouldn't you say old chap?



I am begining to see why so many people have become uncivil to you V as well as ignore you, you mock and you rant, trying to push buttons to 'win' your arguments.

The code of chivalry died way before 1960, but being a gentalman did not. Really V, you need to stop jumping to conclutions. Pentagrams, spells, and astrological signs? How is that conected to chivalry?

Renea may not have been civil to you, but your aditue to women brought it forth. You sir need to step into the 21st century, not I.


You can go wrong by being too skeptical as readily as by being too trusting. -- Robert A. Heinlein

Facts do not cease to exist because they are ignored. -- Aldous Huxley
Edited by - Paulos23 on 12/14/2004 21:20:12
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Paulos23
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USA
446 Posts

Posted - 12/14/2004 :  21:27:32   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Paulos23's Homepage Send Paulos23 a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by verlch



I didn't realize how many fluffy fluffs there are around here. I was in shock and awe after viewing it. That's it, I didnt' state this 'rocks'. In fact I was taken back at the view of death.



My apologizes, but at no point did you indicate this. Your first post may have been more of a 'look at this', but your later posts where more for the killing of the three men in the video. You where so callous about it I thought you where for the bloodshed.

You can go wrong by being too skeptical as readily as by being too trusting. -- Robert A. Heinlein

Facts do not cease to exist because they are ignored. -- Aldous Huxley
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Renae
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Posted - 12/14/2004 :  21:51:23   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Renae a Private Message
Paulos, thank you.

V, Paulos is likely to get more than a thank you from me. He works downstairs from me and I consider him a friend. He's might get a hug and maybe a cup of hot chocolate. In fact, I had lunch with him today. *waves at the Bishop*

You're a sick f**k, V. Every time you post to me, you prove it. I'll ignore your pointless, rude comments and also the irony of you criticizing how Iraqui men treat women, seeing as how you are their brother in misogyny.

I'm a little baffled as to why you haven't been banned.
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gezzam
SFN Regular

Australia
751 Posts

Posted - 12/14/2004 :  22:03:24   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit gezzam's Homepage Send gezzam a Private Message
quote:
We have 3000 Americans jumping off a building to their deaths and you want to marry Iraq's terroists by defending them?


Fallen for the Whitehouse spin V....that's O.K. though, you are not alone, 59 odd million Americans fell for it as well.


quote:
Do you know that many of them beat their wives senseless every day? Here you are defending them?


I am sure there are quite a few Republicans (and Democrats) that beat their wives as well!!!!

quote:
Iraq hates America, Afganistan hates America there are men in these areas that fund terrorists that desire to have us dead.


You reap what you sow!!!! Maybe you should delve into history a little and ask WHY they hate America (and the rest of the west).

quote:
Your a wimp and you deserve whatever you get in life.


You're a dickhead, if you weren't so amusing, I wish you would just piss off.

Mistakes are a part of being human. Appreciate your mistakes for what they are: precious life lessons that can only be learned the hard way. Unless it's a fatal mistake, which, at least, others can learn from.

Al Franken
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verlch
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Posted - 12/14/2004 :  22:33:20   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Send verlch an AOL message Send verlch a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by Renae

Paulos, thank you.

V, Paulos is likely to get more than a thank you from me. He works downstairs from me and I consider him a friend. He's might get a hug and maybe a cup of hot chocolate. In fact, I had lunch with him today. *waves at the Bishop*

You're a sick f**k, V. Every time you post to me, you prove it. I'll ignore your pointless, rude comments and also the irony of you criticizing how Iraqui men treat women, seeing as how you are their brother in misogyny.

I'm a little baffled as to why you haven't been banned.



Your just trying to piss me off your a twisted sister...Why don't you marry him? Your sexist as anybody, and the sister of misandry. I love how you are so sensitive, your sensitve like a 105lb man I know. The funny thing is I don't hate women, I hate feminism. I want a woman to be a lady that I'm married to. That doesn't make me hate women. You just don't like a man standing up for himself, you like em' weak. I think you and Paulie23 (Michael Jordan) would make a grrrreat couple...he could pay all the bills, cook and clean and you could shop till you drop.

http://www.freenewmexican.com/news/7878.html

I hate that...

"Women have their faults / men have only two: / everything they say / everything they do."
Popular Feminist Graffiti -
"The institution of sexual intercourse is anti-feminist"
Amazon Odyssey (p. 86) - Ti-Grace Atkinson
"(Rape) is nothing more or less than a conscious process of intimidation by which all men keep all women in a state of fear"
Against Our Will p.6. - Susan Brownmiller
"We are taught, encouraged, moulded by and lulled into accepting a range of false notions about the family. As a source of some of our most profound experiences, it continues to be such an integral part of our emotional lives that it appears beyond criticism. Yet hiding from the truth of family life leaves women and children vulnerable."
- Canadian Panel on Violence Against Women
"Men who are unjustly accused of rape can sometimes gain from the experience."
Vassar College. Assistant Dean of Students - Catherine Comin
"The male is a domestic animal which, if treated with firmness...can be trained to do most things."
SCUM (Society For Cutting Up Men.) - Jilly Cooper
" How will the family unit be destroyed? ...[T]he demand alone will throw the whole ideology of the family into question, so that women can begin establishing a community of work with each other and we can fight collectively. Women will feel freer to leave their husbands and become economically independent, either through a job or welfare."
In "Female Liberation" - Roxanne Dunbarr
"Men are rapists, batterers, plunderers, killers; these same men are religious prophets, poets, heroes, figures of romance, adventure, accomplishment, figures ennobled by tragedy and defeat. Men have claimed the earth, called it "Her". Men ruin Her. Men have airplanes, guns, bombs, poisonous gases, weapons so perverse and deadly that they defy any authentically human imagination."
Pornography: Men Possessing Women - Andrea Dworkin
"The traditional flowers of courtship are the traditional flowers of the grave, delivered to the victim before the kill. The cadaver is dressed up and made up and laid down and ritually violated and consecrated to an eternity of being used."
- Andrea Dworkin
"Men renounce whatever they have in common with women so as to experience no commonality with women; and what is left...is one piece of flesh a few inches long, the penis. The penis is the man; the man is human; the penis signifies humanity."
- Andrea Dworkin
"I want to see a man beaten to a bloody pulp with a high-heel shoved in his mouth, like an apple in the mouth of a pig."
Ice And Fire - Andrea Dworkin
"On the Left, on the Right, in the Middle; Authors, statesmen, thieves; so-called humanists and self-declared fascists; the adventurous and the contemplative, in every realm of male expression and action, violence is experienced and articulated as love and freedom."
Pornography: Men Possessing Women - Andrea Dworkin
"Heterosexual intercourse is the pure, formalized expression of contempt for women's bodies."
- Andrea Dworkin
"The cultural institutions which embody and enforce those interlocked aberrations - for instance, law, art, religion, nation-states, the family, tribe, or commune based on father-right - these institutions are real and they must be destroyed."
- Andrea Dworkin
"Marriage as an institution developed from rape as a practice. Rape, originally defined as abduction, became marriage by capture. Marriage meant the taking was to extend in time, to be not only use of but possession of, or ownership."
- Andrea Dworkin
"Ninety-five percent of women's experiences are about being a victim. Or about being an underdog, or having to survive... women didn't go to Vietnam and blow things up. They are not Rambo."
in The New York Times Magazine - Jodie Foster
"I was, in reality, bred by my parents as my father's concubine...What we take for granted as the stability of family life may well depend on the sexual slavery of our children. What's more, this is a cynical arrangement our institutions have colluded to conceal."
- Sylvia Fraser
"My feelings about men are the result of my experience. I have little sympathy for them. Like a Jew just released from Dachau, I watch the handsome young Nazi soldier fall writhing to the ground with a bullet in his stomach and I look briefly and walk on. I don't even need to shrug. I simply don't care. What he was, as a person, I mean, what his shames and yearnings were, simply don't matter."
The Woman's Room - Marilyn French
"All patriarchists exalt the home and family as sacred, demanding it remain inviolate from prying eyes. Men want privacy for their violations of women... All women learn in childhood that women as a sex are men's prey."
The Woman's Room - Marilyn French
"All men are rapists and that's all they are."
Author; (later, advisor to Al Gore's Presidential Campaign.) - Marilyn French
"As long as some men use physical force to subjugate females, all men need not. The knowledge that some men do suffices to threaten all women. He can beat or kill the woman he claims to love; he can rape women...he can sexually molest his daughters... THE VAST MAJORITY OF MEN IN THE WORLD DO ONE OR MORE OF THE ABOVE."
(Her emphasis) - Marilyn French
"The media treat male assaults on women like rape, beating, and murder of wives and female lovers, or male incest with children, as individual aberrations...obscuring the fact that all male violence toward women is part of a concerted campaign."
- Marilyn French
"The nuclear family must be destroyed, and people must find better ways of living together.... Whatever its ultimate meaning, the breakup of families now is an objectively revolutionary process.... No woman should have to deny herself any opportunities because of her special responsibilities to her children...."
"Functions of the Family," WOMEN: A Journal of Liberation, Fall, 1969 - Linda Gordon
"Probably the only place where a man can feel really secure is in a maximum security prison, except for the imminent threat of release."
- Germaine Greer
"And if the professional rapist is to be separated from the average dominant heterosexual (male), it may be mainly a quantitative difference."
Rape: The All-American Crime - Susan Griffin
"When a woman reaches orgasm with a man she is only collaborating with the patriarchal system, eroticizi

What came first the chicken or the egg?

How do plants exist without bugs in the soil, and bugs in the soil without plants producing oxygen?

There are no atheists in foxholes

Underlying the evolutionary theory is not just the classic "stuff" of science — conclusions arrived at through prolonged observation and experimentation. Evolution is first an atheistic, materialistic world view. In other words, the primary reason for its acceptance has little to do with the evidence for or against it. Evolution is accepted because men are atheists by faith and thus interpret the evidence to cor-respond to their naturalistic philosophy.

For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears; And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables. II Timothy 4:3,4

II Thess. 2:11 And for this cause God shall
send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:

You can not see the 'wind', but you can see its effect!!!!

Evolution was caused by genetic mistakes at each stage?

Radical Evolution has 500 million years to find fossils of fictional drawings of (hard core)missing links, yet they find none.

We have not seen such moral darkness since the dark ages, coencides with
teaching evolution in schools. (Moral darkness)

For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places, EPH 6:12.

"Thus, many scientists embracing naturalism find themselves in the seeming dilemma recently articulated by biochemist Franklin Harold: "We should reject, as a matter of principle, the substitution of intelligent design for the dialogue of chance and necessity [i.e., Darwinian evolution]; but we must concede that there are presently no detailed Darwinian accounts of the evolution of any biochemical system, only a variety of wishful speculations."
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verlch
SFN Regular

781 Posts

Posted - 12/14/2004 :  22:53:55   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Send verlch an AOL message Send verlch a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by Paulos23

quote:
Wow the knight in shining armor steps in. Didn't you know chivalry died in 1960. Along with the American dream. Defending her might get you a thank-you if your lucky. I better be careful she might stand inside a Pentagram and cast a spell on me!!! I'd better hide in the closet. I was born in March, what does that make me? A sagitoad? O Renae defender of all that is right and good? Lets consult those that mutter and peep to find out my f-u ture!

Don't tell me what to keep civil there defender of the free world. I think Renea has kept it wonderfully civil, wouldn't you say old chap?



I am begining to see why so many people have become uncivil to you V as well as ignore you, you mock and you rant, trying to push buttons to 'win' your arguments.

The code of chivalry died way before 1960, but being a gentalman did not. Really V, you need to stop jumping to conclutions. Pentagrams, spells, and astrological signs? How is that conected to chivalry?

Renea may not have been civil to you, but your aditue to women brought it forth. You sir need to step into the 21st century, not I.






Ok you step into it, just wait until your ex-wife sits in your house you worked your buns off for! To top it off she gets a tip (alimoney) and child support. Just wait, we'll see how your love for western women is after that. You'll be like me, hanging out with your buddies in your 520 sq. ft apartment! Half of my friends have had the same thing happen. Try being civil and just see how civil I can be.

I still don't dislike women, I just can't afford to date em' or marry for that matter! You need to step into 21st century reality there pal.
I'm not going to let that happen again. I'll be single my life over, I'm NEVER going to support one again. I can't tell you the feeling of hoplessness that falls around you. I liken it to taking a 100 mph fast ball in the back. She theatens to leave, whap! She leaves and comes back, Whap, Whap! She leaves, takes the kids for another week, Whap, Whap Whap! Finally she leaves for good, Whap. You get papers in the mail and nasty phone calls about how your never going to see your kids and she is going to take you for what your worth, whap whap whap. You go to court, Whap. You work it out, a daily whap. You set the price to get this over with, whap whap. You hardly get to see your kids, whap. Your ass is on the street, whap. She still calls you to argue and try to anger you, whap. Your children turn into different children, whap.

I can't tell you level of horribleness you feel. You wanna weep and there is no one there to listen or comfort you, so you grin and bear it all. Do I hate women, no. I just don't like being married to em', and I can't afford them. I'm not going to roll over. I am the man of my house, any woman that doesn't like it can leave. Period. I'm no pushover. You fight only if somebody picks a fight with you, thats what my father taught me as a boy. So don't war with me and I won't war with you.

The spirt of feminism has rubbed off on most women. I don't like it and I'm not going to stand for it. I want a traditional family. I work, my wife stays at home and raises my child. I want a lady, that is sweet and a joy. One that wants nothign but happiness for her family. I will love and provide for her like Christ loves the church. How is that bad. You can marry em' Paul...enjoy. If you can make them happy, let me know how!

What came first the chicken or the egg?

How do plants exist without bugs in the soil, and bugs in the soil without plants producing oxygen?

There are no atheists in foxholes

Underlying the evolutionary theory is not just the classic "stuff" of science — conclusions arrived at through prolonged observation and experimentation. Evolution is first an atheistic, materialistic world view. In other words, the primary reason for its acceptance has little to do with the evidence for or against it. Evolution is accepted because men are atheists by faith and thus interpret the evidence to cor-respond to their naturalistic philosophy.

For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears; And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables. II Timothy 4:3,4

II Thess. 2:11 And for this cause God shall
send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:

You can not see the 'wind', but you can see its effect!!!!

Evolution was caused by genetic mistakes at each stage?

Radical Evolution has 500 million years to find fossils of fictional drawings of (hard core)missing links, yet they find none.

We have not seen such moral darkness since the dark ages, coencides with
teaching evolution in schools. (Moral darkness)

For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places, EPH 6:12.

"Thus, many scientists embracing naturalism find themselves in the seeming dilemma recently articulated by biochemist Franklin Harold: "We should reject, as a matter of principle, the substitution of intelligent design for the dialogue of chance and necessity [i.e., Darwinian evolution]; but we must concede that there are presently no detailed Darwinian accounts of the evolution of any biochemical system, only a variety of wishful speculations."
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verlch
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Posted - 12/14/2004 :  23:13:18   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Send verlch an AOL message Send verlch a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by gezzam

quote:
We have 3000 Americans jumping off a building to their deaths and you want to marry Iraq's terroists by defending them?


Fallen for the Whitehouse spin V....that's O.K. though, you are not alone, 59 odd million Americans fell for it as well.

quote:
Iraq hates America, Afganistan hates America there are men in these areas that fund terrorists that desire to have us dead.


You reap what you sow!!!! Maybe you should delve into history a little and ask WHY they hate America (and the rest of the west).

quote:
Your a wimp and you deserve whatever you get in life.


You're a dickhead, if you weren't so amusing, I wish you would just piss off.



I don't know what you are, care to give me some ammo there softy?


I saw Americans jumping and falling to the ground! I heard Americans landing on the roof of WTC and my heart was vexed. Renae must think that was just great! All you heard in the video was thump, thump, thump, each one was a body blasting the roof of the lobby. Human beings and Americans at that, smashed into a million peices falling from tens of tens of stories up. You guys make me sick, how you defend that. We are following the money trail to the men that would love to do something like that again! Time to learn to step up to be men and not wimps with your tails tucked between your legs!

What came first the chicken or the egg?

How do plants exist without bugs in the soil, and bugs in the soil without plants producing oxygen?

There are no atheists in foxholes

Underlying the evolutionary theory is not just the classic "stuff" of science — conclusions arrived at through prolonged observation and experimentation. Evolution is first an atheistic, materialistic world view. In other words, the primary reason for its acceptance has little to do with the evidence for or against it. Evolution is accepted because men are atheists by faith and thus interpret the evidence to cor-respond to their naturalistic philosophy.

For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears; And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables. II Timothy 4:3,4

II Thess. 2:11 And for this cause God shall
send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:

You can not see the 'wind', but you can see its effect!!!!

Evolution was caused by genetic mistakes at each stage?

Radical Evolution has 500 million years to find fossils of fictional drawings of (hard core)missing links, yet they find none.

We have not seen such moral darkness since the dark ages, coencides with
teaching evolution in schools. (Moral darkness)

For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places, EPH 6:12.

"Thus, many scientists embracing naturalism find themselves in the seeming dilemma recently articulated by biochemist Franklin Harold: "We should reject, as a matter of principle, the substitution of intelligent design for the dialogue of chance and necessity [i.e., Darwinian evolution]; but we must concede that there are presently no detailed Darwinian accounts of the evolution of any biochemical system, only a variety of wishful speculations."
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Paulos23
Skeptic Friend

USA
446 Posts

Posted - 12/14/2004 :  23:38:27   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Paulos23's Homepage Send Paulos23 a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by verlch



Ok you step into it, just wait until your ex-wife sits in your house you worked your buns off for! To top it off she gets a tip (alimoney) and child support. Just wait, we'll see how your love for western women is after that. You'll be like me, hanging out with your buddies in your 520 sq. ft apartment! Half of my friends have had the same thing happen. Try being civil and just see how civil I can be.

I still don't dislike women, I just can't afford to date em' or marry for that matter! You need to step into 21st century reality there pal.
I'm not going to let that happen again. I'll be single my life over, I'm NEVER going to support one again. I can't tell you the feeling of hoplessness that falls around you. I liken it to taking a 100 mph fast ball in the back. She theatens to leave, whap! She leaves and comes back, Whap, Whap! She leaves, takes the kids for another week, Whap, Whap Whap! Finally she leaves for good, Whap. You get papers in the mail and nasty phone calls about how your never going to see your kids and she is going to take you for what your worth, whap whap whap. You go to court, Whap. You work it out, a daily whap. You set the price to get this over with, whap whap. You hardly get to see your kids, whap. Your ass is on the street, whap. She still calls you to argue and try to anger you, whap. Your children turn into different children, whap.

I can't tell you level of horribleness you feel. You wanna weep and there is no one there to listen or comfort you, so you grin and bear it all. Do I hate women, no. I just don't like being married to em', and I can't afford them. I'm not going to roll over. I am the man of my house, any woman that doesn't like it can leave. Period. I'm no pushover. You fight only if somebody picks a fight with you, thats what my father taught me as a boy. So don't war with me and I won't war with you.

The spirt of feminism has rubbed off on most women. I don't like it and I'm not going to stand for it. I want a traditional family. I work, my wife stays at home and raises my child. I want a lady, that is sweet and a joy. One that wants nothign but happiness for her family. I will love and provide for her like Christ loves the church. How is that bad. You can marry em' Paul...enjoy. If you can make them happy, let me know how!



Well...

First off I am sorry for the way your divorce went, and saddly that is the way to many marriages have ended in our modern age.

However, something I have understood before I even dated was that the traditional family model was not the only way for a family to work. How do I know this? Because both of my parents worked. To me it was and is a nother way for a family to work.

Now I am not saying my folks marriage was trouble free, but they stuck with it and worked things out. And they did this by both of them talking to each other, lissening to what the other said, and compramising. But it took work, and it took dedication. Saddly I see to many married couples that don't want to do this for their marriage.

As far as keeping women happy V, I am still learning. But I do know I will not wed quickly and without an expectation that it will take work at times to keep my wife, unless she wants to go and then I will work with her to make it an easy seperation.

You can go wrong by being too skeptical as readily as by being too trusting. -- Robert A. Heinlein

Facts do not cease to exist because they are ignored. -- Aldous Huxley
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Paulos23
Skeptic Friend

USA
446 Posts

Posted - 12/14/2004 :  23:57:06   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Paulos23's Homepage Send Paulos23 a Private Message
quote:
Your just trying to piss me off your a twisted sister...Why don't you marry him? Your sexist as anybody, and the sister of misandry. I love how you are so sensitive, your sensitve like a 105lb man I know. The funny thing is I don't hate women, I hate feminism. I want a woman to be a lady that I'm married to. That doesn't make me hate women. You just don't like a man standing up for himself, you like em' weak. I think you and Paulie23 (Michael Jordan) would make a grrrreat couple...he could pay all the bills, cook and clean and you could shop till you drop.


*Sigh*

I am sorry you feel that way V. But the fact of the matter is you can stand up for yourself and be a sensitve man, you don't have to trample the other person to do it.

Now I agree that there are some women that do turn feminism into a hatered of men, but when they have had to be subservent to men for so long can you blame some of them going overboard?

You can go wrong by being too skeptical as readily as by being too trusting. -- Robert A. Heinlein

Facts do not cease to exist because they are ignored. -- Aldous Huxley
Edited by - Paulos23 on 12/15/2004 00:42:27
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Dude
SFN Die Hard

USA
6891 Posts

Posted - 12/15/2004 :  00:32:45   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Dude a Private Message
quote:
I bet if you were around in the American Revolution you would be the first one shouting 'Baby killers' at our troops!


Well, if I had been around during the American Revolution (and living here in the US at the time, of course) you know what they would have called me?

A TERRORIST.

I'd have been right up there dumping the tea into the harbor with the rest of those terrorists.

I love living in a country who's fight for freedom from opression was launched by a terrorist act. It's a great feeling. Knowing that my ancestors were willing to fight for what they believed in.

And verlch, you really do need to lay off. You started this thread, so you have to live with the reaction it generates. Your abusive treatment of people here is prettymuch unacceptable behavior. Lucky for you there is a very liberal policy on what can get you kicked off. Right now I think your pretty close to stepping over the line.

You don't like the fact that Renae is intelligent and unafraid to speak her mind. To bad for you. It's a quality that almost(I'm guessing here) everyone else on this site respects and admires (I know I do).


Ignorance is preferable to error; and he is less remote from the truth who believes nothing, than he who believes what is wrong.
-- Thomas Jefferson

"god :: the last refuge of a man with no answers and no argument." - G. Carlin

Hope, n.
The handmaiden of desperation; the opiate of despair; the illegible signpost on the road to perdition. ~~ da filth
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