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verlch
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Posted - 12/15/2004 : 00:51:39 [Permalink]
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quote: Originally posted by Paulos23
quote: Your just trying to piss me off your a twisted sister...Why don't you marry him? Your sexist as anybody, and the sister of misandry. I love how you are so sensitive, your sensitve like a 105lb man I know. The funny thing is I don't hate women, I hate feminism. I want a woman to be a lady that I'm married to. That doesn't make me hate women. You just don't like a man standing up for himself, you like em' weak. I think you and Paulie23 (Michael Jordan) would make a grrrreat couple...he could pay all the bills, cook and clean and you could shop till you drop.
*Sigh*
I am sorry you feel that way V. But the fact of the matter is you can stand up for yourself and be a sensitve man, you don't have to trample the other person to do it.
Now I agree that there are some women that do turn feminism into a hatered of men, but when they have had to be subservent to men for so long can you blame some of them going overboard?
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What came first the chicken or the egg?
How do plants exist without bugs in the soil, and bugs in the soil without plants producing oxygen?
There are no atheists in foxholes
Underlying the evolutionary theory is not just the classic "stuff" of science — conclusions arrived at through prolonged observation and experimentation. Evolution is first an atheistic, materialistic world view. In other words, the primary reason for its acceptance has little to do with the evidence for or against it. Evolution is accepted because men are atheists by faith and thus interpret the evidence to cor-respond to their naturalistic philosophy.
For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears; And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables. II Timothy 4:3,4
II Thess. 2:11 And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:
You can not see the 'wind', but you can see its effect!!!!
Evolution was caused by genetic mistakes at each stage?
Radical Evolution has 500 million years to find fossils of fictional drawings of (hard core)missing links, yet they find none.
We have not seen such moral darkness since the dark ages, coencides with teaching evolution in schools. (Moral darkness)
For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places, EPH 6:12.
"Thus, many scientists embracing naturalism find themselves in the seeming dilemma recently articulated by biochemist Franklin Harold: "We should reject, as a matter of principle, the substitution of intelligent design for the dialogue of chance and necessity [i.e., Darwinian evolution]; but we must concede that there are presently no detailed Darwinian accounts of the evolution of any biochemical system, only a variety of wishful speculations."
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verlch
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Posted - 12/15/2004 : 00:59:28 [Permalink]
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quote: Originally posted by Dude
quote: I bet if you were around in the American Revolution you would be the first one shouting 'Baby killers' at our troops!
Well, if I had been around during the American Revolution (and living here in the US at the time, of course) you know what they would have called me?
A TERRORIST.
I'd have been right up there dumping the tea into the harbor with the rest of those terrorists.
I love living in a country who's fight for freedom from opression was launched by a terrorist act. It's a great feeling. Knowing that my ancestors were willing to fight for what they believed in.
And verlch, you really do need to lay off. You started this thread, so you have to live with the reaction it generates. Your abusive treatment of people here is prettymuch unacceptable behavior. Lucky for you there is a very liberal policy on what can get you kicked off. Right now I think your pretty close to stepping over the line.
You don't like the fact that Renae is intelligent and unafraid to speak her mind. To bad for you. It's a quality that almost(I'm guessing here) everyone else on this site respects and admires (I know I do).
Let me guess she can speak her mind because she is so strong and independant! That's where we get the f#$k, yeah its cool when a chick does it, isn't it. Imagine what hell would have broken loose if I had called her a bitch? Then I would be the monster I already was and then a little more. Hmmm very interesting. Well maybe you can date her too, dude. Why is it funny when a man gets kicked in the nuts, but a travesty when a woman breaks a nail? Well the moral of the story is I let no man talk to me the way she did, why should I let a supposed lady? In fact I would kick a buddies ass for saying what she said. Just because your a woman you can say anything you like to anybody and expect everyonen to rush to your damsel in defense. I would have done that too before my last wife I suppose. I used to have a lot more admiration for Women in this country, I suppose I've lost that. Seeing what I and my buddies and their buddies buddies went through with women. |
What came first the chicken or the egg?
How do plants exist without bugs in the soil, and bugs in the soil without plants producing oxygen?
There are no atheists in foxholes
Underlying the evolutionary theory is not just the classic "stuff" of science — conclusions arrived at through prolonged observation and experimentation. Evolution is first an atheistic, materialistic world view. In other words, the primary reason for its acceptance has little to do with the evidence for or against it. Evolution is accepted because men are atheists by faith and thus interpret the evidence to cor-respond to their naturalistic philosophy.
For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears; And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables. II Timothy 4:3,4
II Thess. 2:11 And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:
You can not see the 'wind', but you can see its effect!!!!
Evolution was caused by genetic mistakes at each stage?
Radical Evolution has 500 million years to find fossils of fictional drawings of (hard core)missing links, yet they find none.
We have not seen such moral darkness since the dark ages, coencides with teaching evolution in schools. (Moral darkness)
For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places, EPH 6:12.
"Thus, many scientists embracing naturalism find themselves in the seeming dilemma recently articulated by biochemist Franklin Harold: "We should reject, as a matter of principle, the substitution of intelligent design for the dialogue of chance and necessity [i.e., Darwinian evolution]; but we must concede that there are presently no detailed Darwinian accounts of the evolution of any biochemical system, only a variety of wishful speculations."
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filthy
SFN Die Hard
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Posted - 12/15/2004 : 04:56:37 [Permalink]
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Damn! That's what I get for going to bed early; I miss all the fun.
V, I see you're back on your anti-feminism kick again. You should have realized by now that it really won't wash. Over the last century or so, women in this country have demanded equality, fought for it, and have gotten it, as is proper.
Of course, there are still a lot of brain-damaged troglodytes who regard women as chattle, but their numbers are gradually thinning.
Women have made many contributions to their various societies beyond being pregnent in the kitchen. Here's a few noteworthy women:
Madame Curie (scientist, not a brothl keeper) Nefertiti (ruler of ancient Egypt} Jenny Clack (paleoentologist} Florence Nightingale (started the British nursing corp) Mrs. Betty Bowers (worlds best Christian, and council to the famous) Emily Dickenson (poetess) Dr. Harriet Gillette (specialist in childrens medicine) Joan D'Arc (warrior) Condeleeza Rice (Russian specialist and attainer of high office) Ma Barker (leader of a vicious bank-robbing gang) Anne Bonney (pirate sailing with Calico Jack Rackham) Helen Keller (blind, deaf and dumb herself, she started a shcool for others so afflicted) Joan Baez (singer and anti-war activist) Hillary Clinton (former First Lady and Senator from New York) Charlotte Church (Prodigy opera singer. Began at age 13) Susan B. Anthony (sufferage leader) Anna May Wong (silent film star at a time when orientals were discriminated against in Hollywood) Xena (warrior princess) Mata Hari (spy) Leni Name-I-can't-spell (Nazi proagandist and the premier cinamatographer of her era) Madeline Murry O'Hare (Atheist leader supporting the separation of church and state) Bella Abzug (congresswoman) Golda Meir (Israli leader) Benazir Bhutto (Pakistani leader) Margeret Thatcher (British P.M.) Buffy St. Marie (singer, Indian activist) Barbera Streisand (singer, actress, political activist) Catheren the Great (Russian leader)
And so forth. The list could go on forever. I could even have added Heidi Fleiss, former madam to the stars and hot chick. She was a quite succssful businesswoman, until busted.
The point is that women are fully as capable of thinking for themselves as men, and demonstrate it.
Let me ask you something, V. Would you vote for a woman, not necessarly Hillary, for president if she were the best qualified of the candidates?
As for the 3,000 who died in the WTC, that was caused by Osama bin Laden, not Saddam Hussain. And where exactly is Osama? It's been something like three years now, and he's still loose in spite of all of the wind and puffery put forth by the inept Bush. Can you think of a woman that could do a better job than he?
I can. Plenty of 'em. Hell, just select one from the above list, including Heidi.
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Robb
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Posted - 12/15/2004 : 06:28:37 [Permalink]
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quote: Originally posted by filthy
Women have made many contributions to their various societies beyond being pregnent in the kitchen.
I think many women would be offended by this statement. You seem to be saying that staying home and raising a family is not as noteworthy as the following list of women's accomplishments.
quote: Here's a few noteworthy women:
Madame Curie (scientist, not a brothl keeper) Nefertiti (ruler of ancient Egypt} Jenny Clack (paleoentologist} Florence Nightingale (started the British nursing corp) Mrs. Betty Bowers (worlds best Christian, and council to the famous) Emily Dickenson (poetess) Dr. Harriet Gillette (specialist in childrens medicine) Joan D'Arc (warrior) Condeleeza Rice (Russian specialist and attainer of high office) Ma Barker (leader of a vicious bank-robbing gang) Anne Bonney (pirate sailing with Calico Jack Rackham) Helen Keller (blind, deaf and dumb herself, she started a shcool for others so afflicted) Joan Baez (singer and anti-war activist) Hillary Clinton (former First Lady and Senator from New York) Charlotte Church (Prodigy opera singer. Began at age 13) Susan B. Anthony (sufferage leader) Anna May Wong (silent film star at a time when orientals were discriminated against in Hollywood) Xena (warrior princess) Mata Hari (spy) Leni Name-I-can't-spell (Nazi proagandist and the premier cinamatographer of her era) Madeline Murry O'Hare (Atheist leader supporting the separation of church and state) Bella Abzug (congresswoman) Golda Meir (Israli leader) Benazir Bhutto (Pakistani leader) Margeret Thatcher (British P.M.) Buffy St. Marie (singer, Indian activist) Barbera Streisand (singer, actress, political activist) Catheren the Great (Russian leader)
And so forth. The list could go on forever. I could even have added Heidi Fleiss, former madam to the stars and hot chick. She was a quite succssful businesswoman, until busted.
I would like to add to your list my wife, mother of two children, educated, teaches our children daily to become good citizens of society, serves others outside our home, works hard to keep the home organized and comfortable for the whole family, etc. My wife is not alone doing this in this country. I would say that it is people like my wife that have more of an impact on our society than any of the women on your list. To say Heidi Fleiss is more noteworthy than being a homemaker is disgusting.
quote: The point is that women are fully as capable of thinking for themselves as men, and demonstrate it.
My wife has to think on her feet being a stay at home mom everyday. She does quite well thinking for herself. I don't have a problem with women having careers or doing whatever they want but our society and feminists need to not demean homemakers.
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Starman
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Posted - 12/15/2004 : 07:07:47 [Permalink]
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quote: Originally posted by Robbquote: Originally posted by filthy Women have made many contributions to their various societies beyond being pregnent in the kitchen.
I think many women would be offended by this statement.
Why?quote: You seem to be saying that staying home and raising a family is not as noteworthy as the following list of women's accomplishments.
What ?!? He most definitely did not!
He said that many women have made contributions to their societies. Nothing negative about pregnancy and/or housework, which also is a contribution to society.
Was this a joke?
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Siberia
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Posted - 12/15/2004 : 07:07:59 [Permalink]
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May I add Miss Luiza Marques, single mother of two kids, who was the one to keep her family tight when her so-called husband ran away with a girl by V's standards, because he couldn't handle his daughter being ill? Oh yeah, V, he doesn't pay anything, either, and her place was bought with HER MONEY. Where's he now? Stuck with a woman who can't think for herself, who cheats on him and poisons his mind so much that he cries everytime he speaks to his former wife, because he regrets wanting a 'nice lady who only thinks of her family and stays home'. He couldn't see his ex-wife was exactly what he wanted, only she'd to work to complement their income. He was threatened by her position, now he's reaping the consequences.
That'd be my mom, and that man would be my father. Do I hate him? No. Does he have to pay me anything? No. Does he even come visit his daughter? No, not really. She's much more of a christian than you are, V, that's for sure. She's got more of a spine than you, too. |
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Paulos23
Skeptic Friend
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Posted - 12/15/2004 : 07:31:47 [Permalink]
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quote: Do you think things are needed for women to go overboard or is it bad math?
Actully it was a poor choice of words. I ment women taking things to far as a reaction to chauvinism. I have been on the recieving end of that many times, mostly in my college days.
For example, I have had women get angry at me opening a door for them. But I have also have had women that I have open doors for open the next one for me. The former is a reaction based out of misplaced anger (I was just trying to be polite), the later was a good way of them showing she wanted to be treated as a equal. I don't blame the lady that got angry, she may had a bad experence whith men holding doors open, but it was an overreaction to the situation. The other lady's action was not an overreaction and got the message that she was not a fragule women from the 1800's. |
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filthy
SFN Die Hard
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Posted - 12/15/2004 : 08:34:15 [Permalink]
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quote: Women have made many contributions to their various societies beyond being pregnent in the kitchen.
quote: I think many women would be offended by this statement.
You seem to be saying that staying home and raising a family is not as noteworthy as the following list of women's accomplishments.
You are attributing words to me that I did not write. I've no doubt that some would be offended. Some folks get offended over anything.
quote: I would like to add to your list my wife, mother of two children, educated, teaches our children daily to become good citizens of society, serves others outside our home, works hard to keep the home organized and comfortable for the whole family, etc. My wife is not alone doing this in this country. I would say that it is people like my wife that have more of an impact on our society than any of the women on your list. To say Heidi Fleiss is more noteworthy than being a homemaker is disgusting.
You have of course, noticed that Ms. Fleiss was not on the list proper. I added her as an afterthought to demonstrate that she is far more competent than the failure Bush. She actually ran a successful business.
I wonder why you object to Ms. Fleiss and not Ma Barker, Anne Bonney, Mata Hari, and Cathern the Great. The worst Heidi would do to you is give you a dose. The others would as soon kill you as look at you. Sooner, even.
But again, you are adding words that I did not write. This is becoming a habit that you need to break.
quote: The point is that women are fully as capable of thinking for themselves as men, and demonstrate it.
quote: My wife has to think on her feet being a stay at home mom everyday. She does quite well thinking for herself. I don't have a problem with women having careers or doing whatever they want but our society and feminists need to not demean homemakers.
Who is demaning home makers and when's it being done?
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Valiant Dancer
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Posted - 12/15/2004 : 08:42:46 [Permalink]
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quote: Originally posted by verlch
quote: Originally posted by Paulos23
Sorry Reene, but I just have to step in here....
quote: Originally posted by verlch
Go make a baby.
Keep a civil tongue sir!
quote: I bet if you were around in the American Revolution you would be the one shouting 'Baby killers' at our troops!
Not to put words in her Reene's mouth, but I am sure she would not be shouting that at the Americans, more likely she would be shouting that at the British who where the oppressers in that case, not us.
quote: We are at war because our government thinks we should be there, how am I getting off on violence in your femmed out sphere? Did I declare war on Iraq, no lady. What should we send em' flowers instead of bombs. Yeah that will get the point across.
You are getting off on violence by posting a clip and saying how great it was. No you didn't delcare war on Iraq, but just because our government did does not make it a right and just war. It is against the UN rules, and unlike Afganistan, there was no clear link to the 9/11 attacks. We had no good reason to invade.
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We have 3000 Americans jumping off a building to their deaths and you want to marry Iraq's terrorists by defending them? Do you know that many of them beat their wives senseless every day? Here you are defending them?
Now your being rude again. She is not defending Iraq's terrorists, she is making a point that some of the Iraq's fighting us think we should get out of their country and have little or no connection to terrorists. In fact many of them would not have joined the terrorists if we had not invaded Iraq. They see us as interlopers and medlers in their country and they want us out. This doesn't make them evil. In their minds they are doing what they think is right.
Now I am not saying we have our troops lay down their arms. They are in a combat zone and need to deffend themselves and the Iraqi civilans. But not every Iraqi is a terrorist, and not every Iraqi fighting us is a terrorist.
Wow the knight in shining armor steps in. Didn't you know chivalry died in 1960. Along with the American dream. Defending her might get you a thank-you if your lucky. I better be careful she might stand inside a Pentagram and cast a spell on me!!! I'd better hide in the closet. I was born in March, what does that make me? A sagitoad? O Renae defender of all that is right and good? Lets consult those that mutter and peep to find out my f-u ture!
Don't tell me what to keep civil there defender of the free world. I think Renea has kept it wonderfully civil, wouldn't you say old chap?
That's it, fuckwad!
Since you cannot defend your fucking position without resorting to insults and flat out lies, I'll use the language you might have a chance to understand.
You, sir, are no Christian. You are instead a Xtian because you have removed the Christ right out of it.
Here's some basics, Paulos23 wasn't defending Renea because she is a woman, he was defending her because you made an assinine comment equating logic with wanting to marry the opposition. This isn't the first time that tiny brain of yours which makes you sound like a police whistle when you stand crosswise in the wind has jumped to that logically invalid conclusion. Although, why I expect logic out of you is beyond me.
Your complete ignorance of the Neo-Pagan and pagan religions is truely astounding. Although it has been pointed out several times, your addled brain still cannot grasp the concept that pagans are ethically barred from casting harmful spells. But that seems to be ok since it can't grasp the concept of the teachings of Jesus, either. You seem blissfully happy in your hypocricy, but have to revert to demonizing your opponents when it is pointed out.
I can only conclude that you are the epitome of the ass-kicking quotient. That is since there is little to no chance that someone would be able to find you to kick your ass for the insulting manner in which you post, you are more likely to continue. Had there been any chance that someone could actually call you out, you wouldn't have the balls to say what you do.
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Robb
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Posted - 12/15/2004 : 08:46:23 [Permalink]
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quote: Originally posted by filthy
quote: Women have made many contributions to their various societies beyond being pregnent in the kitchen.
quote: I think many women would be offended by this statement.
You seem to be saying that staying home and raising a family is not as noteworthy as the following list of women's accomplishments.
You are attributing words to me that I did not write. I've no doubt that some would be offended. Some folks get offended over anything.
quote: I would like to add to your list my wife, mother of two children, educated, teaches our children daily to become good citizens of society, serves others outside our home, works hard to keep the home organized and comfortable for the whole family, etc. My wife is not alone doing this in this country. I would say that it is people like my wife that have more of an impact on our society than any of the women on your list. To say Heidi Fleiss is more noteworthy than being a homemaker is disgusting.
You have of course, noticed that Ms. Fleiss was not on the list proper. I added her as an afterthought to demonstrate that she is far more competent than the failure Bush. She actually ran a successful business.
I wonder why you object to Ms. Fleiss and not Ma Barker, Anne Bonney, Mata Hari, and Cathern the Great. The worst Heidi would do to you is give you a dose. The others would as soon kill you as look at you. Sooner, even.
But again, you are adding words that I did not write. This is becoming a habit that you need to break.
I apologize for putting words in your mouth. I took the term "pregnent in the kitchen" as having a demeaning connotation. As you can tell it is a touchy issue with me and it got the better of me. I guess it stems from the fact that my family does not agree with my lifestyle choices including my wife not working and I hear about it often. But that is my problem, not yours. Sorry again. |
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Dr. Mabuse
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Posted - 12/15/2004 : 09:37:44 [Permalink]
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For a while now I've been wondering when V's hatred of women would rear it's ugly head again.
And here it is. Hating his mom and two ex-wives for being man-hating feminists and not being able to separate them from otherwise strong women, you have to wonder what kind of mental masochist Verlch is, as he keeps coming here where he knows he'll find strong women. Why a fuck-up like Verlch stays is beyond my comprehension. |
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filthy
SFN Die Hard
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Posted - 12/15/2004 : 09:48:38 [Permalink]
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quote: Originally posted by Robb
quote: Originally posted by filthy
quote: Women have made many contributions to their various societies beyond being pregnent in the kitchen.
quote: I think many women would be offended by this statement.
You seem to be saying that staying home and raising a family is not as noteworthy as the following list of women's accomplishments.
You are attributing words to me that I did not write. I've no doubt that some would be offended. Some folks get offended over anything.
quote: I would like to add to your list my wife, mother of two children, educated, teaches our children daily to become good citizens of society, serves others outside our home, works hard to keep the home organized and comfortable for the whole family, etc. My wife is not alone doing this in this country. I would say that it is people like my wife that have more of an impact on our society than any of the women on your list. To say Heidi Fleiss is more noteworthy than being a homemaker is disgusting.
You have of course, noticed that Ms. Fleiss was not on the list proper. I added her as an afterthought to demonstrate that she is far more competent than the failure Bush. She actually ran a successful business.
I wonder why you object to Ms. Fleiss and not Ma Barker, Anne Bonney, Mata Hari, and Cathern the Great. The worst Heidi would do to you is give you a dose. The others would as soon kill you as look at you. Sooner, even.
But again, you are adding words that I did not write. This is becoming a habit that you need to break.
I apologize for putting words in your mouth. I took the term "pregnent in the kitchen" as having a demeaning connotation. As you can tell it is a touchy issue with me and it got the better of me. I guess it stems from the fact that my family does not agree with my lifestyle choices including my wife not working and I hear about it often. But that is my problem, not yours. Sorry again.
De nada, my friend. I realize that sometimes my writing can get a little salty.
I was mostly trying to make the point that women are fully as qualified as men for a great many things beyond their so-called traditional roles. Perhaps, I made it a little too well?
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Robb
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Posted - 12/15/2004 : 10:11:18 [Permalink]
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quote: Originally posted by filthy
I was mostly trying to make the point that women are fully as qualified as men for a great many things beyond their so-called traditional roles.
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Dude
SFN Die Hard
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Posted - 12/15/2004 : 10:15:49 [Permalink]
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quote: Why is it funny when a man gets kicked in the nuts, but a travesty when a woman breaks a nail? Well the moral of the story is I let no man talk to me the way she did, why should I let a supposed lady? In fact I would kick a buddies ass for saying what she said.
You're an idiot.
So, where ya wanna meet for that ass-kicking? I have to tell you tho, I'm 6'1", 290lb, and in decent shape. (not full on military fighting, not enough time in the day to maintain that level of fitness anymore).
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filthy
SFN Die Hard
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Posted - 12/15/2004 : 10:23:33 [Permalink]
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Order gentlemen, order!
Threats of violence are not appropriate in the fora. They're also not cool. Cuss if you must, but leave the other out.
If you must threaten verlch or anyone else, I suggest you do it with E-mail.
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"If only we could impeach on the basis of criminal stupidity, 90% of the Rethuglicans and half of the Democrats would be thrown out of office." ~~ P.Z. Myres
"The default position of human nature is to punch the other guy in the face and take his stuff." ~~ Dude
Brother Boot Knife of Warm Humanitarianism,
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