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Renae
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Posted - 12/15/2004 :  11:54:20   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Renae a Private Message
V, for the last time, I don't hate men. I really like men. I'm blessed to be surrounded by male friends, family members, and lovers who are kind, intelligent, and strong people. My grandfather was my hero, V.

I'm also not a pagan. Someone recently referred to Seattle as a "pagan leftist enclave" and it struck me as a funny phrase. I am a leftist, of course. But I don't do religion; I see no need for it in my life.

I shouldn't have used that kind of vulgarity with you. I get irritable when I'm sick (and I'm home sick today.)

I was angered by your post because you seem proud of the violence committed by our troops. Whether or not the Iraq war is justified has been debated endlessly, here and everywhere, and isn't really the point.

It bothers me that you lack the humanity to see the tragedy in the deaths of the Iraquis, regardless of which "side" they are on. It's possible to feel regret and sadness for the deaths of Americans and Iraquis. Neo-cons love to create random false dichotomies like this one. The key word here, though, is false.

I also get angry when you and other right-wingers use the phrase "Remember 9/11" not as an expression of genuine compassion but instead as a political tool to bludgeon anyone who expresses dissent or asks hard questions about the wars on terror and Iraq.

I do remember 9/11. I wept along with the rest of my country. I will not, however, use 9/11 as dispensation for America to do whatever it wants on the international stage.

PS Thanks, Dude.
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Dude
SFN Die Hard

USA
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Posted - 12/15/2004 :  12:29:50   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Dude a Private Message
quote:
If you must threaten verlch or anyone else, I suggest you do it with E-mail.



I'm just offering V an opprtunity to carry out the "ass-kicking" he said he'd deliver to any of his "buddies" if they said the stuff we have said to him here.

Childish, yes... it is. I know.


Ignorance is preferable to error; and he is less remote from the truth who believes nothing, than he who believes what is wrong.
-- Thomas Jefferson

"god :: the last refuge of a man with no answers and no argument." - G. Carlin

Hope, n.
The handmaiden of desperation; the opiate of despair; the illegible signpost on the road to perdition. ~~ da filth
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filthy
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USA
14408 Posts

Posted - 12/15/2004 :  13:27:03   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send filthy a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by Dude

quote:
If you must threaten verlch or anyone else, I suggest you do it with E-mail.



I'm just offering V an opprtunity to carry out the "ass-kicking" he said he'd deliver to any of his "buddies" if they said the stuff we have said to him here.

Childish, yes... it is. I know.





What it is, Dude, I like it here. Here, We can verbally rough-house without worrying about getting banned. However, if we go over the top, sooner or later, @tomic will be forced to turn his site into one of those where all the members are a bunch of snivvling pussies who are afraid of the moderators. No more mix-it-up. I've been kicked off those sites for far less than what I've posted many times here.

True, sometimes we get caught up in the heat of the moment. At that time, we must pause and consider what we are saying. If you will read back in various threads, you will find that I have apologised to verlch on several occasions.

Verlch and others even more outragious can be frustrating; no one knows that better than I. But had I the authority, I would not ban them nor even hollowly curse them, and certainly not threaten. That would take away the oportunity and the sweet pleasure of verbally flaying them alive and nailing up their bleeding hides on the side of the shed.

So, sez I, flame away, but thoughtfully.


"What luck for rulers that men do not think." -- Adolf Hitler (1889 - 1945)

"If only we could impeach on the basis of criminal stupidity, 90% of the Rethuglicans and half of the Democrats would be thrown out of office." ~~ P.Z. Myres


"The default position of human nature is to punch the other guy in the face and take his stuff." ~~ Dude

Brother Boot Knife of Warm Humanitarianism,

and Crypto-Communist!

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Dude
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Posted - 12/15/2004 :  14:21:46   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Dude a Private Message
All to true Filthy....

V brings out the obnoxious in me sometimes though :)

Now, If I can just convince you to fed-ex me, in one of those dry-ice containers, a nice big plate of leftovers from your christmas dinner.....


Ignorance is preferable to error; and he is less remote from the truth who believes nothing, than he who believes what is wrong.
-- Thomas Jefferson

"god :: the last refuge of a man with no answers and no argument." - G. Carlin

Hope, n.
The handmaiden of desperation; the opiate of despair; the illegible signpost on the road to perdition. ~~ da filth
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Siberia
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Brazil
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Posted - 12/15/2004 :  15:16:10   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Siberia's Homepage  Send Siberia an AOL message  Send Siberia a Yahoo! Message Send Siberia a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by Dude

Now, If I can just convince you to fed-ex me, in one of those dry-ice containers, a nice big plate of leftovers from your christmas dinner.....


Hey, I want too!

"Why are you afraid of something you're not even sure exists?"
- The Kovenant, Via Negativa

"People who don't like their beliefs being laughed at shouldn't have such funny beliefs."
-- unknown
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verlch
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Posted - 12/15/2004 :  16:08:58   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Send verlch an AOL message Send verlch a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by filthy






The point is that women are fully as capable of thinking for themselves as men, and demonstrate it.

Let me ask you something, V. Would you vote for a woman, not necessarly Hillary, for president if she were the best qualified of the candidates?

As for the 3,000 who died in the WTC, that was caused by Osama bin Laden, not Saddam Hussain. And where exactly is Osama? It's been something like three years now, and he's still loose in spite of all of the wind and puffery put forth by the inept Bush. Can you think of a woman that could do a better job than he?

I can. Plenty of 'em. Hell, just select one from the above list, including Heidi.





Whats up there man?

Um, I would vote for a woman if the only issuses she cared about are womans issues. I just don't see a woman being president as a good idea until they get the idea they have been held down out of their minds! Do you think the idea will ever come when a woman can stay home and not get chided by other working women?
http://www.yourdictionary.com/ahd/c/c0288800.html

Hussein was still responsible to supporting terrorism! In an indirect why Hussein's name was splashed across WTC....Osama will be caught when Iraq is stable. When the elite in the world desire to exit Iraq, they will devise an exit strategy...


What came first the chicken or the egg?

How do plants exist without bugs in the soil, and bugs in the soil without plants producing oxygen?

There are no atheists in foxholes

Underlying the evolutionary theory is not just the classic "stuff" of science — conclusions arrived at through prolonged observation and experimentation. Evolution is first an atheistic, materialistic world view. In other words, the primary reason for its acceptance has little to do with the evidence for or against it. Evolution is accepted because men are atheists by faith and thus interpret the evidence to cor-respond to their naturalistic philosophy.

For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears; And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables. II Timothy 4:3,4

II Thess. 2:11 And for this cause God shall
send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:

You can not see the 'wind', but you can see its effect!!!!

Evolution was caused by genetic mistakes at each stage?

Radical Evolution has 500 million years to find fossils of fictional drawings of (hard core)missing links, yet they find none.

We have not seen such moral darkness since the dark ages, coencides with
teaching evolution in schools. (Moral darkness)

For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places, EPH 6:12.

"Thus, many scientists embracing naturalism find themselves in the seeming dilemma recently articulated by biochemist Franklin Harold: "We should reject, as a matter of principle, the substitution of intelligent design for the dialogue of chance and necessity [i.e., Darwinian evolution]; but we must concede that there are presently no detailed Darwinian accounts of the evolution of any biochemical system, only a variety of wishful speculations."
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verlch
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Posted - 12/15/2004 :  16:12:55   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Send verlch an AOL message Send verlch a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by Dude

quote:
Why is it funny when a man gets kicked in the nuts, but a travesty when a woman breaks a nail? Well the moral of the story is I let no man talk to me the way she did, why should I let a supposed lady? In fact I would kick a buddies ass for saying what she said.


You're an idiot.

So, where ya wanna meet for that ass-kicking? I have to tell you tho, I'm 6'1", 290lb, and in decent shape. (not full on military fighting, not enough time in the day to maintain that level of fitness anymore).







Your calling me out? Well I live in Portland Or, Tualatin Oregon to be exact. You can come see me anytime. Where do you live, dude? I'm 6' 6" and 275 at the moment. Are you quick on your feet? Usually in this day and age of prison terms and such, I usually settle duels at a boxing arena. We box and last man standing wins! If your serious of course! It can be a friday night fight and they will pay us to box if your any good!

What came first the chicken or the egg?

How do plants exist without bugs in the soil, and bugs in the soil without plants producing oxygen?

There are no atheists in foxholes

Underlying the evolutionary theory is not just the classic "stuff" of science — conclusions arrived at through prolonged observation and experimentation. Evolution is first an atheistic, materialistic world view. In other words, the primary reason for its acceptance has little to do with the evidence for or against it. Evolution is accepted because men are atheists by faith and thus interpret the evidence to cor-respond to their naturalistic philosophy.

For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears; And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables. II Timothy 4:3,4

II Thess. 2:11 And for this cause God shall
send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:

You can not see the 'wind', but you can see its effect!!!!

Evolution was caused by genetic mistakes at each stage?

Radical Evolution has 500 million years to find fossils of fictional drawings of (hard core)missing links, yet they find none.

We have not seen such moral darkness since the dark ages, coencides with
teaching evolution in schools. (Moral darkness)

For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places, EPH 6:12.

"Thus, many scientists embracing naturalism find themselves in the seeming dilemma recently articulated by biochemist Franklin Harold: "We should reject, as a matter of principle, the substitution of intelligent design for the dialogue of chance and necessity [i.e., Darwinian evolution]; but we must concede that there are presently no detailed Darwinian accounts of the evolution of any biochemical system, only a variety of wishful speculations."
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verlch
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Posted - 12/15/2004 :  16:22:27   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Send verlch an AOL message Send verlch a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by Valiant Dancer

quote:
Originally posted by verlch

quote:
Originally posted by Paulos23

Sorry Reene, but I just have to step in here....

quote:
Originally posted by verlch


Go make a baby.


Keep a civil tongue sir!

quote:
I bet if you were around in the American Revolution you would be the one shouting 'Baby killers' at our troops!



Not to put words in her Reene's mouth, but I am sure she would not be shouting that at the Americans, more likely she would be shouting that at the British who where the oppressers in that case, not us.

quote:
We are at war because our government thinks we should be there, how am I getting off on violence in your femmed out sphere? Did I declare war on Iraq, no lady. What should we send em' flowers instead of bombs. Yeah that will get the point across.



You are getting off on violence by posting a clip and saying how great it was. No you didn't delcare war on Iraq, but just because our government did does not make it a right and just war. It is against the UN rules, and unlike Afganistan, there was no clear link to the 9/11 attacks. We had no good reason to invade.

quote:

We have 3000 Americans jumping off a building to their deaths and you want to marry Iraq's terrorists by defending them? Do you know that many of them beat their wives senseless every day? Here you are defending them?



Now your being rude again. She is not defending Iraq's terrorists, she is making a point that some of the Iraq's fighting us think we should get out of their country and have little or no connection to terrorists. In fact many of them would not have joined the terrorists if we had not invaded Iraq. They see us as interlopers and medlers in their country and they want us out. This doesn't make them evil. In their minds they are doing what they think is right.

Now I am not saying we have our troops lay down their arms. They are in a combat zone and need to deffend themselves and the Iraqi civilans. But not every Iraqi is a terrorist, and not every Iraqi fighting us is a terrorist.






Wow the knight in shining armor steps in. Didn't you know chivalry died in 1960. Along with the American dream. Defending her might get you a thank-you if your lucky. I better be careful she might stand inside a Pentagram and cast a spell on me!!! I'd better hide in the closet. I was born in March, what does that make me? A sagitoad? O Renae defender of all that is right and good? Lets consult those that mutter and peep to find out my f-u ture!

Don't tell me what to keep civil there defender of the free world. I think Renea has kept it wonderfully civil, wouldn't you say old chap?



That's it, fuckwad!

Since you cannot defend your fucking position without resorting to insults and flat out lies, I'll use the language you might have a chance to understand.

You, sir, are no Christian. You are instead a Xtian because you have removed the Christ right out of it.

Here's some basics, Paulos23 wasn't defending Renea because she is a woman, he was defending her because you made an assinine comment equating logic with wanting to marry the opposition. This isn't the first time that tiny brain of yours which makes you sound like a police whistle when you stand crosswise in the wind has jumped to that logically invalid conclusion. Although, why I expect logic out of you is beyond me.

Your complete ignorance of the Neo-Pagan and pagan religions is truely astounding. Although it has been pointed out several times, your addled brain still cannot grasp the concept that pagans are ethically barred from casting harmful spells. But that seems to be ok since it can't grasp the concept of the teachings of Jesus, either. You seem blissfully happy in your hypocricy, but have to revert to demonizing your opponents when it is pointed out.

I can only conclude that you are the epitome of the ass-kicking quotient. That is since there is little to no chance that someone would be able to find you to kick your ass for the insulting manner in which you post, you are more likely to continue. Had there been any chance that someone could actually call you out, you wouldn't have the balls to say what you do.

Rage on, Xtian fundie coward.




I'll give you my address if you want it...Don't get your panties all in a ruffle. Don't tell me what I am. You don't know me and you can pound sand too chicken liver. Do you live anywhere near me? You want what with me again? I'm having a bad day don't make me take it out on you. Tiny little brain? I think mine is bigger than yours, how tall are you again? Did you know if your hand is bigger than your face you have cancer?

No one is kicking my ass by the way. I haven't lost one yet and I don't plan on losing one now. Anybody want to settle it like men in the ring can come and bring it.

What came first the chicken or the egg?

How do plants exist without bugs in the soil, and bugs in the soil without plants producing oxygen?

There are no atheists in foxholes

Underlying the evolutionary theory is not just the classic "stuff" of science — conclusions arrived at through prolonged observation and experimentation. Evolution is first an atheistic, materialistic world view. In other words, the primary reason for its acceptance has little to do with the evidence for or against it. Evolution is accepted because men are atheists by faith and thus interpret the evidence to cor-respond to their naturalistic philosophy.

For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears; And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables. II Timothy 4:3,4

II Thess. 2:11 And for this cause God shall
send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:

You can not see the 'wind', but you can see its effect!!!!

Evolution was caused by genetic mistakes at each stage?

Radical Evolution has 500 million years to find fossils of fictional drawings of (hard core)missing links, yet they find none.

We have not seen such moral darkness since the dark ages, coencides with
teaching evolution in schools. (Moral darkness)

For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places, EPH 6:12.

"Thus, many scientists embracing naturalism find themselves in the seeming dilemma recently articulated by biochemist Franklin Harold: "We should reject, as a matter of principle, the substitution of intelligent design for the dialogue of chance and necessity [i.e., Darwinian evolution]; but we must concede that there are presently no detailed Darwinian accounts of the evolution of any biochemical system, only a variety of wishful speculations."
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filthy
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USA
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Posted - 12/15/2004 :  16:31:13   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send filthy a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by verlch

quote:
Originally posted by Dude

quote:
Why is it funny when a man gets kicked in the nuts, but a travesty when a woman breaks a nail? Well the moral of the story is I let no man talk to me the way she did, why should I let a supposed lady? In fact I would kick a buddies ass for saying what she said.


You're an idiot.

So, where ya wanna meet for that ass-kicking? I have to tell you tho, I'm 6'1", 290lb, and in decent shape. (not full on military fighting, not enough time in the day to maintain that level of fitness anymore).







Your calling me out? Well I live in Portland Or, Tualatin Oregon to be exact. You can come see me anytime. Where do you live, dude? I'm 6' 6" and 275 at the moment. Are you quick on your feet? Usually in this day and age of prison terms and such, I usually settle duels at a boxing arena. We box and last man standing wins! If your serious of course! It can be a friday night fight and they will pay us to box if your any good!

Hey, put it in an E-mail! Nobody else is interested in that cheap crap.

Bullshit! The unchangable fact remains that we had no reason to invade Iraq. Further, I rather doubt that that unhappy country will ever be stable as long as we have troops there.

A woman president must be able to address all issues regardless of gender, regardless of political affilation; same for a man. I really don't care whether the prez is a mna of a woman as long as the candidate is honest and qualified. Unfortunatly, what we have now is neither.


"What luck for rulers that men do not think." -- Adolf Hitler (1889 - 1945)

"If only we could impeach on the basis of criminal stupidity, 90% of the Rethuglicans and half of the Democrats would be thrown out of office." ~~ P.Z. Myres


"The default position of human nature is to punch the other guy in the face and take his stuff." ~~ Dude

Brother Boot Knife of Warm Humanitarianism,

and Crypto-Communist!

Edited by - filthy on 12/15/2004 16:32:54
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Renae
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Posted - 12/15/2004 :  16:47:48   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Renae a Private Message
While acknowledging the irony of the likes of me saying this:

Y'all chill out.
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Ricky
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USA
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Posted - 12/15/2004 :  17:21:38   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Send Ricky an AOL message Send Ricky a Private Message
Verlch, if you wish to start fights, do so elsewhere. Please keep it civilized everyone.

Why continue? Because we must. Because we have the call. Because it is nobler to fight for rationality without winning than to give up in the face of continued defeats. Because whatever true progress humanity makes is through the rationality of the occasional individual and because any one individual we may win for the cause may do more for humanity than a hundred thousand who hug their superstitions to their breast.
- Isaac Asimov
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gezzam
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Australia
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Posted - 12/15/2004 :  17:29:17   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit gezzam's Homepage Send gezzam a Private Message
quote:
Your calling me out? Well I live in Portland Or, Tualatin Oregon to be exact. You can come see me anytime. Where do you live, dude? I'm 6' 6" and 275 at the moment. Are you quick on your feet? Usually in this day and age of prison terms and such, I usually settle duels at a boxing arena. We box and last man standing wins! If your serious of course! It can be a friday night fight and they will pay us to box if your any good!


Good to see you are living by that christian ethic of turning the other cheek...

Chill out V.....I might not post much, but I read all and you are pretty close to getting moderated outta here with your insulting and immature comments.

I have never had the need to delete any posts, but anymore insults to respected members of this board and they are gone...

Regards,

Gezza

Mistakes are a part of being human. Appreciate your mistakes for what they are: precious life lessons that can only be learned the hard way. Unless it's a fatal mistake, which, at least, others can learn from.

Al Franken
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verlch
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Posted - 12/16/2004 :  00:27:37   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Send verlch an AOL message Send verlch a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by gezzam

quote:
Your calling me out? Well I live in Portland Or, Tualatin Oregon to be exact. You can come see me anytime. Where do you live, dude? I'm 6' 6" and 275 at the moment. Are you quick on your feet? Usually in this day and age of prison terms and such, I usually settle duels at a boxing arena. We box and last man standing wins! If your serious of course! It can be a friday night fight and they will pay us to box if your any good!


Good to see you are living by that christian ethic of turning the other cheek...

Chill out V.....I might not post much, but I read all and you are pretty close to getting moderated outta here with your insulting and immature comments.

I have never had the need to delete any posts, but anymore insults to respected members of this board and they are gone...

Regards,

Gezza




It's boxing you can't get hurt at that lol....With gloves and pads...lol, its kinda fun...

What came first the chicken or the egg?

How do plants exist without bugs in the soil, and bugs in the soil without plants producing oxygen?

There are no atheists in foxholes

Underlying the evolutionary theory is not just the classic "stuff" of science — conclusions arrived at through prolonged observation and experimentation. Evolution is first an atheistic, materialistic world view. In other words, the primary reason for its acceptance has little to do with the evidence for or against it. Evolution is accepted because men are atheists by faith and thus interpret the evidence to cor-respond to their naturalistic philosophy.

For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears; And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables. II Timothy 4:3,4

II Thess. 2:11 And for this cause God shall
send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:

You can not see the 'wind', but you can see its effect!!!!

Evolution was caused by genetic mistakes at each stage?

Radical Evolution has 500 million years to find fossils of fictional drawings of (hard core)missing links, yet they find none.

We have not seen such moral darkness since the dark ages, coencides with
teaching evolution in schools. (Moral darkness)

For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places, EPH 6:12.

"Thus, many scientists embracing naturalism find themselves in the seeming dilemma recently articulated by biochemist Franklin Harold: "We should reject, as a matter of principle, the substitution of intelligent design for the dialogue of chance and necessity [i.e., Darwinian evolution]; but we must concede that there are presently no detailed Darwinian accounts of the evolution of any biochemical system, only a variety of wishful speculations."
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filthy
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USA
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Posted - 12/16/2004 :  02:18:39   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send filthy a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by verlch

quote:
Originally posted by gezzam

quote:
Your calling me out? Well I live in Portland Or, Tualatin Oregon to be exact. You can come see me anytime. Where do you live, dude? I'm 6' 6" and 275 at the moment. Are you quick on your feet? Usually in this day and age of prison terms and such, I usually settle duels at a boxing arena. We box and last man standing wins! If your serious of course! It can be a friday night fight and they will pay us to box if your any good!


Good to see you are living by that christian ethic of turning the other cheek...

Chill out V.....I might not post much, but I read all and you are pretty close to getting moderated outta here with your insulting and immature comments.

I have never had the need to delete any posts, but anymore insults to respected members of this board and they are gone...

Regards,

Gezza




It's boxing you can't get hurt at that lol....With gloves and pads...lol, its kinda fun...

Then E-mail whoever, make the arraingments, and go box. Very simple. But this is a discussion forum, not a gymnasium. Unless you want to start a thread on the finer points of pugilisim, it is inapprote here.

That might be an interesting topic, by the bye.


"What luck for rulers that men do not think." -- Adolf Hitler (1889 - 1945)

"If only we could impeach on the basis of criminal stupidity, 90% of the Rethuglicans and half of the Democrats would be thrown out of office." ~~ P.Z. Myres


"The default position of human nature is to punch the other guy in the face and take his stuff." ~~ Dude

Brother Boot Knife of Warm Humanitarianism,

and Crypto-Communist!

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Valiant Dancer
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USA
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quote:
Originally posted by verlch

quote:
Originally posted by Valiant Dancer

quote:
Originally posted by verlch

quote:
Originally posted by Paulos23

Sorry Reene, but I just have to step in here....

quote:
Originally posted by verlch


Go make a baby.


Keep a civil tongue sir!

quote:
I bet if you were around in the American Revolution you would be the one shouting 'Baby killers' at our troops!



Not to put words in her Reene's mouth, but I am sure she would not be shouting that at the Americans, more likely she would be shouting that at the British who where the oppressers in that case, not us.

quote:
We are at war because our government thinks we should be there, how am I getting off on violence in your femmed out sphere? Did I declare war on Iraq, no lady. What should we send em' flowers instead of bombs. Yeah that will get the point across.



You are getting off on violence by posting a clip and saying how great it was. No you didn't delcare war on Iraq, but just because our government did does not make it a right and just war. It is against the UN rules, and unlike Afganistan, there was no clear link to the 9/11 attacks. We had no good reason to invade.

quote:

We have 3000 Americans jumping off a building to their deaths and you want to marry Iraq's terrorists by defending them? Do you know that many of them beat their wives senseless every day? Here you are defending them?



Now your being rude again. She is not defending Iraq's terrorists, she is making a point that some of the Iraq's fighting us think we should get out of their country and have little or no connection to terrorists. In fact many of them would not have joined the terrorists if we had not invaded Iraq. They see us as interlopers and medlers in their country and they want us out. This doesn't make them evil. In their minds they are doing what they think is right.

Now I am not saying we have our troops lay down their arms. They are in a combat zone and need to deffend themselves and the Iraqi civilans. But not every Iraqi is a terrorist, and not every Iraqi fighting us is a terrorist.






Wow the knight in shining armor steps in. Didn't you know chivalry died in 1960. Along with the American dream. Defending her might get you a thank-you if your lucky. I better be careful she might stand inside a Pentagram and cast a spell on me!!! I'd better hide in the closet. I was born in March, what does that make me? A sagitoad? O Renae defender of all that is right and good? Lets consult those that mutter and peep to find out my f-u ture!

Don't tell me what to keep civil there defender of the free world. I think Renea has kept it wonderfully civil, wouldn't you say old chap?



That's it, fuckwad!

Since you cannot defend your fucking position without resorting to insults and flat out lies, I'll use the language you might have a chance to understand.

You, sir, are no Christian. You are instead a Xtian because you have removed the Christ right out of it.

Here's some basics, Paulos23 wasn't defending Renea because she is a woman, he was defending her because you made an assinine comment equating logic with wanting to marry the opposition. This isn't the first time that tiny brain of yours which makes you sound like a police whistle when you stand crosswise in the wind has jumped to that logically invalid conclusion. Although, why I expect logic out of you is beyond me.

Your complete ignorance of the Neo-Pagan and pagan religions is truely astounding. Although it has been pointed out several times, your addled brain still cannot grasp the concept that pagans are ethically barred from casting harmful spells. But that seems to be ok since it can't grasp the concept of the teachings of Jesus, either. You seem blissfully happy in your hypocricy, but have to revert to demonizing your opponents when it is pointed out.

I can only conclude that you are the epitome of the ass-kicking quotient. That is since there is little to no chance that someone would be able to find you to kick your ass for the insulting manner in which you post, you are more likely to continue. Had there been any chance that someone could actually call you out, you wouldn't have the balls to say what you do.

Rage on, Xtian fundie coward.




I'll give you my address if you want it...Don't get your panties all in a ruffle. Don't tell me what I am. You don't know me and you can pound sand too chicken liver. Do you live anywhere near me? You want what with me again? I'm having a bad day don't make me take it out on you.


Gee, the way you post here, I wonder why you're having a bad day. If you had bothered reading the post, which why I actually expect you to do that is beyond me, you would have noticed that I never called you out nor claimed I wanted to kick your ass. What I said, and I'll use small words so your tiny mind can understand it, was people on BBS's can't be found easily so they do not fear others wanting to beat them up.

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Tiny little brain? I think mine is bigger than yours, how tall are you again?


Infentessimal. You have clearly shown that you cannot address the simplest position without degenerating into insults. You cannot argue a point with females without claiming that they somehow want to marry or produce progeny with a group or person whom you consider evil. (Darwin, terrorists, etc) What's with the questions about my height?

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Did you know if your hand is bigger than your face you have cancer?


Got a source for this, or can we safely chalk this up to yet another verlch unsupported assertation? I'm betting on the latter because it's your arguement style.

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No one is kickin

Cthulhu/Asmodeus when you're tired of voting for the lesser of two evils

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