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latinijral
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Posted - 01/10/2005 :  20:55:21  Show Profile Send latinijral a Private Message
Some good examples we can share.

Father of the new skepticism

Cuneiformist "But yeah, I'm sick of latinijral. And his "new "skepticism"!

Dave W.
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Posted - 01/10/2005 :  20:56:34   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Dave W.'s Homepage Send Dave W. a Private Message
Your hatred for James Randi?

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Why not question something for a change?
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latinijral
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197 Posts

Posted - 01/10/2005 :  20:59:17   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send latinijral a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by Dave W.

Your hatred for James Randi?



Relax ----stay on topic.

Father of the new skepticism

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Dave W.
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Posted - 01/10/2005 :  21:35:04   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Dave W.'s Homepage Send Dave W. a Private Message
That was on topic.

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Ricky
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Posted - 01/10/2005 :  22:07:16   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Send Ricky an AOL message Send Ricky a Private Message
Science can not explain why woo-woo's think science should explain everything.

Why continue? Because we must. Because we have the call. Because it is nobler to fight for rationality without winning than to give up in the face of continued defeats. Because whatever true progress humanity makes is through the rationality of the occasional individual and because any one individual we may win for the cause may do more for humanity than a hundred thousand who hug their superstitions to their breast.
- Isaac Asimov
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Dude
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Posted - 01/10/2005 :  22:43:23   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Dude a Private Message
Ohhh! I have one!

Why anyone would call themselves "Father of the New Skepticism", and then refuse to respond to multiple requests to explain their self proclaimed title and provide evidence that demonstrates why they would be qualified to hold such a title.


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-- Thomas Jefferson

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filthy
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Posted - 01/11/2005 :  03:17:51   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send filthy a Private Message
Ok, I'll bite: Science cannot explain the nature of God(s).


"What luck for rulers that men do not think." -- Adolf Hitler (1889 - 1945)

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Plyss
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Netherlands
231 Posts

Posted - 01/11/2005 :  03:36:36   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Plyss a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by latinijral

Some good examples we can share.




Do you mean "Things science cannot explain, ever, period." or "Things science cannot explain yet" ?

'Cause if you mean the latter, i have plenty of suggestions from my own research :)
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furshur
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USA
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Posted - 01/11/2005 :  07:26:47   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send furshur a Private Message
Science cannot explain the mechanism of gravitational attraction. We are great at measuring it's effects but at this point there are several different theories about the mechanism. Searches are being done for gravitational waves and gravitrons, etc. It is a very exciting investigation. No answers yet though.




If I knew then what I know now then I would know more now than I know.
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Valiant Dancer
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USA
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Posted - 01/11/2005 :  08:53:51   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Valiant Dancer's Homepage Send Valiant Dancer a Private Message
Science cannot explain human philosophy.

Science cannot explain why women don't flock to verlch in terms that he can understand.

Science cannot explain theological constructs.

Science cannot explain why you feel it necessary to attack James Randi's integrity without evidence.

Science cannot explain the US tax code.


Cthulhu/Asmodeus when you're tired of voting for the lesser of two evils

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Rubicon95
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USA
220 Posts

Posted - 01/11/2005 :  10:24:02   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Rubicon95 a Private Message
Science cannot explain anything. It is not sentient.

Science is the creation of human curiosity.

Science is a tool, a rational/logical process of discovery.
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Wendy
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USA
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Posted - 01/11/2005 :  10:58:16   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Send Wendy a Yahoo! Message Send Wendy a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by Rubicon95
Science cannot explain anything. It is not sentient.

I was going to say that science does not explain, it describes - but you said it better, Rubicon95. Guess that wraps up this thread.

BTW, do we all have to call latinijral Dad now?

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Dude
SFN Die Hard

USA
6891 Posts

Posted - 01/11/2005 :  11:43:03   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Dude a Private Message
quote:
Science cannot explain the mechanism of gravitational attraction. We are great at measuring it's effects but at this point there are several different theories about the mechanism. Searches are being done for gravitational waves and gravitrons, etc. It is a very exciting investigation


Off topic... but I agree. Very exiting. The implications for discovering the mechanism involved are immense. World changing. Being able to detect something is often the first step in being able to replicate and control it.


Ignorance is preferable to error; and he is less remote from the truth who believes nothing, than he who believes what is wrong.
-- Thomas Jefferson

"god :: the last refuge of a man with no answers and no argument." - G. Carlin

Hope, n.
The handmaiden of desperation; the opiate of despair; the illegible signpost on the road to perdition. ~~ da filth
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Ricky
SFN Die Hard

USA
4907 Posts

Posted - 01/11/2005 :  12:28:31   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Send Ricky an AOL message Send Ricky a Private Message
quote:
BTW, do we all have to call latinijral Dad now?


No, he is the father of new skepticism, not skepticism (whatever that is). Keep in mind he is also the son, the grandfather, the daughter, and the mother becaues I think he may be the only one in new skepticism.

Why continue? Because we must. Because we have the call. Because it is nobler to fight for rationality without winning than to give up in the face of continued defeats. Because whatever true progress humanity makes is through the rationality of the occasional individual and because any one individual we may win for the cause may do more for humanity than a hundred thousand who hug their superstitions to their breast.
- Isaac Asimov
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Wendy
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USA
614 Posts

Posted - 01/11/2005 :  13:45:39   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Send Wendy a Yahoo! Message Send Wendy a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by Ricky

No, he is the father of new skepticism, not skepticism (whatever that is). Keep in mind he is also the son, the grandfather, the daughter, and the mother becaues I think he may be the only one in new skepticism.

I wonder if science can prove he is the "father of new skepticism". Anyone know of a paternity test for that sort of thing?

Care to submit any proof, latinijral?

Millions long for immortality who don't know what to do on a rainy afternoon.
-- Susan Ertz
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Ricky
SFN Die Hard

USA
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Posted - 01/11/2005 :  13:50:16   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Send Ricky an AOL message Send Ricky a Private Message
If he could drink 2 cups of bleach without dying, he is the father of new skepticism.

(Come on natural selection...)

Why continue? Because we must. Because we have the call. Because it is nobler to fight for rationality without winning than to give up in the face of continued defeats. Because whatever true progress humanity makes is through the rationality of the occasional individual and because any one individual we may win for the cause may do more for humanity than a hundred thousand who hug their superstitions to their breast.
- Isaac Asimov
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