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Siberia
SFN Addict
Brazil
2322 Posts |
 Posted - 01/18/2005 : 06:12:43 [Permalink]
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| Yes he did, but people simply don't get it. They get stuck in the details, y'know? |
"Why are you afraid of something you're not even sure exists?"
- The Kovenant, Via Negativa
"People who don't like their beliefs being laughed at shouldn't have such funny beliefs."
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beskeptigal
SFN Die Hard
USA
3834 Posts |
Posted - 01/19/2005 : 14:46:41 [Permalink]
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| You all say with such certainty that a person 2,000 or so years ago said a particular thing. It might be more accurate to say he was reported to have said it. |
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latinijral
Banned
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Posted - 01/24/2005 : 15:03:58 [Permalink]
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Explain why "skeptics" believe in democracy and polls.
Jerks ., poor jerks. |
Father of the new skepticism
Cuneiformist "But yeah, I'm sick of latinijral. And his "new "skepticism"! |
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filthy
SFN Die Hard
USA
14408 Posts |
Posted - 01/24/2005 : 15:41:53 [Permalink]
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quote:
Originally posted by latinijral
Explain why "skeptics" believe in democracy and polls.
Jerks ., poor jerks.
Polls exist. Demorcratcy exists. What's not to believe?
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"What luck for rulers that men do not think." -- Adolf Hitler (1889 - 1945)
"If only we could impeach on the basis of criminal stupidity, 90% of the Rethuglicans and half of the Democrats would be thrown out of office." ~~ P.Z. Myres
"The default position of human nature is to punch the other guy in the face and take his stuff." ~~ Dude
Brother Boot Knife of Warm Humanitarianism,
and Crypto-Communist! 
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Siberia
SFN Addict
Brazil
2322 Posts |
Posted - 01/24/2005 : 15:43:23 [Permalink]
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| Who said I believe in democracy? |
"Why are you afraid of something you're not even sure exists?"
- The Kovenant, Via Negativa
"People who don't like their beliefs being laughed at shouldn't have such funny beliefs."
-- unknown
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Dr. Mabuse
Septic Fiend
Sweden
9688 Posts |
Posted - 01/24/2005 : 17:49:51 [Permalink]
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I believe in enlightened despotism. Since I'm enlighted, I should be in the governing body.
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Dr. Mabuse - "When the going gets tough, the tough get Duct-tape..."
Dr. Mabuse whisper.mp3
"Equivocation is not just a job, for a creationist it's a way of life..." Dr. Mabuse
Support American Troops in Iraq:
Send them unarmed civilians for target practice..
Collateralmurder. |
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filthy
SFN Die Hard
USA
14408 Posts |
Posted - 01/24/2005 : 18:29:32 [Permalink]
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quote:
Originally posted by Dr. Mabuse
I believe in enlightened despotism. Since I'm enlighted, I should be in the governing body.
You got my vote! 
Need a Secratary of Something Important?
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"What luck for rulers that men do not think." -- Adolf Hitler (1889 - 1945)
"If only we could impeach on the basis of criminal stupidity, 90% of the Rethuglicans and half of the Democrats would be thrown out of office." ~~ P.Z. Myres
"The default position of human nature is to punch the other guy in the face and take his stuff." ~~ Dude
Brother Boot Knife of Warm Humanitarianism,
and Crypto-Communist!
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Dr. Mabuse
Septic Fiend
Sweden
9688 Posts |
Posted - 01/24/2005 : 22:32:35 [Permalink]
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| Since you're proficient with handling snakes, why not Secretary of Snake-oil Oversight Committee? |
Dr. Mabuse - "When the going gets tough, the tough get Duct-tape..."
Dr. Mabuse whisper.mp3
"Equivocation is not just a job, for a creationist it's a way of life..." Dr. Mabuse
Support American Troops in Iraq:
Send them unarmed civilians for target practice..
Collateralmurder. |
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Starman
SFN Regular
Sweden
1613 Posts |
Posted - 01/25/2005 : 02:04:32 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by latinijral
Jerks ., poor jerks.
I belive in those to.
They come to SFN now and then.... |
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filthy
SFN Die Hard
USA
14408 Posts |
Posted - 01/25/2005 : 02:24:48 [Permalink]
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quote:
Originally posted by Dr. Mabuse
Since you're proficient with handling snakes, why not Secretary of Snake-oil Oversight Committee?
Right up my alley! Just call me the Viceroy of Venom, with emphasis on the 'Vice' . It will be a good chance for me to legally peddle off dispose of those 36 cases of Columbian Cancer Cure and All-Around Rejuvinator merchandise that the police failed to find that time when they had to drop the charges for lack of evidence.
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"What luck for rulers that men do not think." -- Adolf Hitler (1889 - 1945)
"If only we could impeach on the basis of criminal stupidity, 90% of the Rethuglicans and half of the Democrats would be thrown out of office." ~~ P.Z. Myres
"The default position of human nature is to punch the other guy in the face and take his stuff." ~~ Dude
Brother Boot Knife of Warm Humanitarianism,
and Crypto-Communist!
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Valiant Dancer
Forum Goalie
USA
4826 Posts |
Posted - 01/25/2005 : 08:27:41 [Permalink]
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quote:
Originally posted by Dr. Mabuse
I believe in enlightened despotism. Since I'm enlighted, I should be in the governing body.
Need a Minister of Mead? I have some Asatru friends who I might be able to talk out of a recipe or two.
How about the Exchequer of Being Fine and Dandy? |
Cthulhu/Asmodeus when you're tired of voting for the lesser of two evils
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Wendy
SFN Regular
USA
614 Posts |
Posted - 01/25/2005 : 08:37:31 [Permalink]
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This thread is so derailed.
Science cannot explain where socks go in the dryer.
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Millions long for immortality who don't know what to do on a rainy afternoon.
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filthy
SFN Die Hard
USA
14408 Posts |
Posted - 01/25/2005 : 09:30:27 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by Wendy
This thread is so derailed.
Science cannot explain where socks go in the dryer.
:laughter!!!:
Nor can it why the last bolt holding the machine together is always the one with the stripped thread cold welded to it's nut, or rusted in solid
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"What luck for rulers that men do not think." -- Adolf Hitler (1889 - 1945)
"If only we could impeach on the basis of criminal stupidity, 90% of the Rethuglicans and half of the Democrats would be thrown out of office." ~~ P.Z. Myres
"The default position of human nature is to punch the other guy in the face and take his stuff." ~~ Dude
Brother Boot Knife of Warm Humanitarianism,
and Crypto-Communist!
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tomk80
SFN Regular
Netherlands
1278 Posts |
Posted - 01/25/2005 : 10:19:30 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by latinijral
Explain why "skeptics" believe in democracy and polls.
Jerks ., poor jerks.
Well, they exist, don't they? So what's there to believe? Now, do they work?
Polls are liable to the same statistical errors as any research, combined with the ability of people to change their mind depending on the outcome of the poll. So my trust in them giving a good prediction depends on the time when they are giving it.
I do not think democracy is a very good system. Unfortunately, I don't have a better one handy, so we'll have to stick with what works the best and democracy seems to fit the bill.
Now, did you have anything intelligent to add to the discussion? |
Tom
`Contrariwise,' continued Tweedledee, `if it was so, it might be; and if it were so, it would be; but as it isn't, it ain't. That's logic.'
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BigPapaSmurf
SFN Die Hard
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Posted - 01/25/2005 : 11:17:43 [Permalink]
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| I think Totalitarianism is the way to go, of course you need to enforce the right ideals for that to work and "right" is an opinion, so your public will always be against you to some degree no matter how strong the Cult of _____ is. |
"...things I have neither seen nor experienced nor heard tell of from anybody else; things, what is more, that do not in fact exist and could not ever exist at all. So my readers must not believe a word I say." -Lucian on his book True History
"...They accept such things on faith alone, without any evidence. So if a fraudulent and cunning person who knows how to take advantage of a situation comes among them, he can make himself rich in a short time." -Lucian critical of early Christians c.166 AD From his book, De Morte Peregrini |
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