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BigPapaSmurf
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 Posted - 01/26/2005 : 09:49:36 [Permalink]
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Latin
sincerus : genuine.
sine : (+ abl.) without.
singularis : alone of its kind, solitary /machless, unique. .
singularis : alone. .
singulariter : adv, one by one, exceedingly, especialy.
singuli : one each, one apiece, single, separate.
singultim : stammeringly.
singulto : to sob.
singultus : sobbing, gasping, death rattle.
singultus : sobbing.
singulus : single, separate, one at a time, one each.
sino : allow, suffer, permit, let.
sino : to allow, leave undone.
sinus : curve, fold, bend /pocket, lap /bay, gulf.
sinus : inner feeling, secret heart.
religio : fear of God, way of life, esp of monks/nuns.
religiosus : god-fearing.
Whats your point about the words anyway? |
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serendipitypublishing
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Posted - 01/26/2005 : 09:55:26 [Permalink]
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Actually I was thinking of Spanish, Sin meaning without.
And in Portuguese, it's Relogio meaning Watch, as in clock type.
Connection between words tells us a lot about the past.
Was it Devon Island in Canada which had a meteorite hit approx 22 million years ago ? |
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Siberia
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Posted - 01/26/2005 : 10:03:19 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by serendipitypublishing
I have to say that from Siberia's photos I think the head of the Lascaux paintings looks more like Greenland than any horse in Europe.
Siberia, please can you tell me what the words 'sin' and 'religio' mean ? when translated from Portuguese to English ?
'Sin' is translated to pecado. Religion is translated to 'religião'. 'Sin' and 'religion' do not exist as words in portuguese.
'Sem' means without (in portuguese), unlike the word 'sempre' (always). 'Sem' reads the same way as 'cem', meaning 100. 'Relógio' means clock/watch (as in wrist watch), too.
I see a przewalskii there, but a stylized one that is not in exact tune with the anatomy of the animal. The color, though, is fairly accurate. We call it 'dun'. It has even the przewalskii's notable striped legs and darker mane and tail. |
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filthy
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Posted - 01/26/2005 : 10:04:06 [Permalink]
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quote:
Originally posted by serendipitypublishing
Actually I was thinking of Spanish, Sin meaning without.
And in Portuguese, it's Relogio meaning Watch, as in clock type.
Connection between words tells us a lot about the past.
Was it Devon Island in Canada which had a meteorite hit approx 22 million years ago ?
yup. quote:
In recent years, a team of scientists led by MARS project scientist Dr. Pascal Lee of NASA Ames Research Center has identified a new Mars analog site of high promise: the 20 km-diameter Haughton Meteorite Impact Crater and its surroundings on Devon Island, in the Canadian High Arctic. Haughton is a site of much interest because it appears to present not just one or a few potential Mars analog features, but an astonishing variety of these.
Not the most descriptive site perhaps, but the best I could come up with on short notice.
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BigPapaSmurf
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Posted - 01/26/2005 : 10:08:03 [Permalink]
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| yes but I fail to see what words derived from latin have to do with the 15,000 year old painting, evolution or the gulf stream. |
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"...They accept such things on faith alone, without any evidence. So if a fraudulent and cunning person who knows how to take advantage of a situation comes among them, he can make himself rich in a short time." -Lucian critical of early Christians c.166 AD From his book, De Morte Peregrini |
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serendipitypublishing
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Posted - 01/26/2005 : 10:10:18 [Permalink]
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Thanks. I thought so from my research on the Internet in that region.
Just so happens that the painting of the Lascaux caves shows a meteorite hit ??
Now on my map of the Artic Circle this would correspond to the coastline of Canada. What do you think ?
The picture I posted seems to keep dissapearing. |
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Siberia
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Posted - 01/26/2005 : 10:12:11 [Permalink]
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| I think they depict what they depict: hunt animals. I fail to see any resemblance to maps whatsoever... |
"Why are you afraid of something you're not even sure exists?"
- The Kovenant, Via Negativa
"People who don't like their beliefs being laughed at shouldn't have such funny beliefs."
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Cuneiformist
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Posted - 01/26/2005 : 10:16:59 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by serendipitypublishing
Actually I was thinking of Spanish, Sin meaning without.
And in Portuguese, it's Relogio meaning Watch, as in clock type.
Connection between words tells us a lot about the past.
But the English sin-- meaning "transgression of divine law" has nothing to do with the Spanish word, which ultimately stems from the Latin sans. the English word sin comes not from the Romance languages, but rather from the Germanic language family, witness this from the OED on-line:quote:
OE. syn(n, for original *sunjo, related to continental forms with extended stem, viz. OFris. sende, MDu. sonde (Du. zonde), OS. sundea, sundia, OHG. sunt(e)a, sund(e)a (G. sünde), ON. synth, synd (Icel., Norw., Sw., Da. synd). The stem may be related to that of L. sons, sont-is guilty. In OE. there are examples of the original general sense, ‘offence, wrong-doing, misdeed'.
Similarly, English religion and Portuguese relógio are completely unrelated.
Yes, word connections are interesting-- even more so when you make them up! |
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Siberia
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Posted - 01/26/2005 : 10:32:44 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by Cuneiformist
Yes, word connections are interesting-- even more so when you make them up!
For instance, 'parente', in portuguese, is a translation to the english word 'relative', yet, it is closer to the english word 'parent'. Being self-taught, I confused both for quite awhile, until I was kindly corrected.
Portuguese has no direct translation to 'parent', other than 'pai', which means father. 'Parents' signifying both mother and father are referred to as 'pais'.
'Relative', however, is similar to 'relativo', which means, well, related to, so a parallel can be drawn there.
See? I could make these all day long. |
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"People who don't like their beliefs being laughed at shouldn't have such funny beliefs."
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serendipitypublishing
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Posted - 01/26/2005 : 10:36:44 [Permalink]
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Off course, anything new will be percieved as being made up. However my understanding of perception is that there is a single point of source, i.e. the dreamer, therefore in the evolving dream it would make sense that all languages stem from one.
Think of language as an equation which is derived. Take the simplest form of the equation and then try to derive it again, you start to go backwards until once again you reach the simplest form. All things including the universe work under this principle. However, it's the topic of many arguements because it's source is unknown.
If we only base our ideas of the future on the past then we'll get nowhere, it take leaps of imagination to progress. You should understand this by looking at the past.
Anyway, I brought up the subject of 'sin' in response to a comment Wendy made. To Sin means to think apart from your creator. I.e. to be without.
But you cannot understand this if you believe you are a body. God and creation have no meaning is this evolving world of dreams. There is no punishment for sin, just a direct law of cause and effect. |
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furshur
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Posted - 01/26/2005 : 10:55:37 [Permalink]
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SP said:
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Just so happens that the painting of the Lascaux caves shows a meteorite hit ??
Now on my map of the Artic Circle this would correspond to the coastline of Canada. What do you think ?
I think your speculation is incorrect.
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Siberia
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Posted - 01/26/2005 : 10:57:25 [Permalink]
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| Which brings me back to the metaphysical point: how can you know something if all your prior references are illusions and possibly lies? |
"Why are you afraid of something you're not even sure exists?"
- The Kovenant, Via Negativa
"People who don't like their beliefs being laughed at shouldn't have such funny beliefs."
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Wendy
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Posted - 01/26/2005 : 11:02:33 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by serendipitypublishing
Wendy, the frame of the picture may be beautiful but it's contents might not be. I think the word 'sin' means 'without', doesn't it ? And Religion means 'time'.
You lost me. I am completely lost. Except for the part about the Arctic Circle. I got that. I don't see it, but I get it.
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Valiant Dancer
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Posted - 01/26/2005 : 12:07:20 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by serendipitypublishing
Interesting Chaloobi about the Gulf Stream stopping.
I agree, it's open for interpretation. And everyone may see something different depending on their mindset.
I see the Arctic circle.
I can explain why I think it represents the artic circle but I'll take this one more slowly.
Does anyone agree ???
Wendy, the frame of the picture may be beautiful but it's contents might not be. I think the word 'sin' means 'without', doesn't it ? And Religion means 'time'.
No. I don't agree.
And "sin" and "religion" don't mean what you think they do in this context. |
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Valiant Dancer
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Posted - 01/26/2005 : 12:17:01 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by serendipitypublishing
Off course, anything new will be percieved as being made up.
Especially when there is no bisis for the assertation.
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However my understanding of perception is that there is a single point of source, i.e. the dreamer, therefore in the evolving dream it would make sense that all languages stem from one.
And existentialism rears it's ugly head again.
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Think of language as an equation which is derived. Take the simplest form of the equation and then try to derive it again, you start to go backwards until once again you reach the simplest form. All things including the universe work under this principle. However, it's the topic of many arguements because it's source is unknown.
And, therefore, unverifiable.
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If we only base our ideas of the future on the past then we'll get nowhere, it take leaps of imagination to progress. You should understand this by looking at the past.
We base our ideas of the future based on the trends of the past. It's been a pretty good indicator so far. But you aren't talking about the future here. You are applying current knowledge to past societies without evidence and even then severely limiting that view of the past to conform to your assumptions.
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Anyway, I brought up the subject of 'sin' in response to a comment Wendy made. To Sin means to think apart from your creator. I.e. to be without.
But you cannot understand this if you believe you are a body. God and creation have no meaning is this evolving world of dreams. There is no punishment for sin, just a direct law of cause and effect.
More existentialism. We understand the concept, we just don't believe it. You are not making a compelling case for it, either. |
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