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BigPapaSmurf
SFN Die Hard

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Posted - 03/09/2005 :  09:00:39   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send BigPapaSmurf a Private Message
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When informed of Geller's payment and dismissal of the appeal, Prometheus Chairman Paul Kurtz stated, "Naturally we are relieved; it's been a long and difficult two years, but it also shows the importance of fighting for what you believe in. It seems Mr. Geller's alleged psychic powers weren't working correctly when he decided to file this suit." Ver Ploeg said that the result "seems to suggest that Mr. Geller has little prospect of employment as a consultant in the prediction of legal results."


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"...things I have neither seen nor experienced nor heard tell of from anybody else; things, what is more, that do not in fact exist and could not ever exist at all. So my readers must not believe a word I say." -Lucian on his book True History

"...They accept such things on faith alone, without any evidence. So if a fraudulent and cunning person who knows how to take advantage of a situation comes among them, he can make himself rich in a short time." -Lucian critical of early Christians c.166 AD From his book, De Morte Peregrini
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tomk80
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Netherlands
1278 Posts

Posted - 03/09/2005 :  18:47:14   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit tomk80's Homepage Send tomk80 a Private Message
quote:
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Wow, that's a lot of questions. Do you really expect Latinijral to answer all of them?

Tom

`Contrariwise,' continued Tweedledee, `if it was so, it might be; and if it were so, it would be; but as it isn't, it ain't. That's logic.'
-Through the Looking Glass by Lewis Caroll-
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Ricky
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USA
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Posted - 03/09/2005 :  19:21:23   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Send Ricky an AOL message Send Ricky a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by tomk80

quote:
Originally posted by BigPapaSmurf

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Wow, that's a lot of questions. Do you really expect Latinijral to answer all of them?



I would be satisfied if he answered just one.

Why continue? Because we must. Because we have the call. Because it is nobler to fight for rationality without winning than to give up in the face of continued defeats. Because whatever true progress humanity makes is through the rationality of the occasional individual and because any one individual we may win for the cause may do more for humanity than a hundred thousand who hug their superstitions to their breast.
- Isaac Asimov
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Shacal
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USA
51 Posts

Posted - 03/09/2005 :  19:50:44   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Shacal a Private Message
Hahaha! Wow.

That was the most interesting exchange I have witnessed for quite a while.

Latin, I don't need to be a professional to see a little insanity in your posts. Like this:


This is you:
"Of course URI give a shit about what a bunch of people at SFN think of him."

This is you TWO POSTS LATER:
"I make it clear to you ,URI don't care what SFN thinks of him or any psedo skeptic cult or society."

Split-personality disorder in my professional opinion

And I will join with Dude, Ricky and BigPapaSmurf:
WHAT IS THE NEW SKEPTICISM AND WHAT QUALIFIES YOU TO LEAD IT?


"The problem with communication is the illusion that we have accomplished it"
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latinijral
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197 Posts

Posted - 03/09/2005 :  20:27:20   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send latinijral a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by DUDE

quote:
Originally posted by latinijral


This topic about Geller really put you all in evidence of your fear to hold an argument.
Was so difficult for you to think about the simple questions about URI?
Even your ghosts of Randi and Carlos appeared here.


See? Just read that. He's strawman-ing away like a pro. He may not even realize it. But it is ever so clear that he is (if it's possible) MORE mentally dense than verlch!



Is DUDE the one who hijacked this thread about URI in the first response of the OP?
Is DUDE the one who is looking ghosts of Randi and Carlos in this URI topic?
Is Dude the one who has fear to answer simple questions about URI ?
Is Dude the one who has the permission of Dave ( the SFN administrator forum) to come here with his nonsense?

All the answers are : hmmmmmmmmm…( put your favourite answer here : )

Trust me. I am not being sarcastic.
Loser.

P.D.
Look at filthy, at least he has only the mistake of the misinterpretation of my OP.
Like others, he thinks that I came here to defend URI, he thinks that I don't know about URI tricks ( even that I wrote where those tricks were originated),he thinks I believe in URI's paranormal powers, he thinks he discovered the warm water about URI,etc.
The only problem of these kinds of posters is their absence of evidence.
That is why I am literally laughing at them.
Think people ,think.



quote:
Originally posted by R.Wreck

Yo latin, why did you find my post "excellent"?




A) You were on topic.
B)You didn't name Randi or Carlos.
C)You expressed your opinion about URI ---#61664; you don't care is he is still doing the same frauds and “laughing” to all the ones who thought he was “eliminated”.
D) You just care about Latinijral and what the new scepticism can do to “eliminate” all kind of fraudulent people.


Son ,you have potential ( in the middle of all the pseudo skeptic posters who had trouble to focus in the topic).


Father of the new skepticism

Cuneiformist "But yeah, I'm sick of latinijral. And his "new "skepticism"!
Edited by - latinijral on 03/09/2005 20:29:10
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Dude
SFN Die Hard

USA
6891 Posts

Posted - 03/09/2005 :  22:12:47   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Dude a Private Message
quote:
Is DUDE the one who hijacked this thread about URI in the first response of the OP?
Is DUDE the one who is looking ghosts of Randi and Carlos in this URI topic?
Is Dude the one who has fear to answer simple questions about URI ?
Is Dude the one who has the permission of Dave ( the SFN administrator forum) to come here with his nonsense?



Dude is the one who asked you the question months ago that your refuse to answer.

The fact that you still refuse to answer it says all that anyone ever needs to know about what you are in relation to skepticism.

So, one more time....

What is "the new skepticism", and what qualifies you to be it's "father"?

Answer!


Ignorance is preferable to error; and he is less remote from the truth who believes nothing, than he who believes what is wrong.
-- Thomas Jefferson

"god :: the last refuge of a man with no answers and no argument." - G. Carlin

Hope, n.
The handmaiden of desperation; the opiate of despair; the illegible signpost on the road to perdition. ~~ da filth
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Cuneiformist
The Imperfectionist

USA
4955 Posts

Posted - 03/09/2005 :  22:23:36   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Cuneiformist a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by Shacal

Hahaha! Wow.

That was the most interesting exchange I have witnessed for quite a while.

Latin, I don't need to be a professional to see a little insanity in your posts. Like this:


This is you:
"Of course URI give a shit about what a bunch of people at SFN think of him."

This is you TWO POSTS LATER:
"I make it clear to you ,URI don't care what SFN thinks of him or any psedo skeptic cult or society."

Split-personality disorder in my professional opinion

And I will join with Dude, Ricky and BigPapaSmurf:
WHAT IS THE NEW SKEPTICISM AND WHAT QUALIFIES YOU TO LEAD IT?


I KNOW! Isn't it amazing, Shacal?! A Direct contradiction in only two posts! You hope that a person like that would make sure she or he got back on her or his meds soon!
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R.Wreck
SFN Regular

USA
1191 Posts

Posted - 03/10/2005 :  03:06:05   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send R.Wreck a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by latinijral:

A) You were on topic.
B)You didn't name Randi or Carlos.
C)You expressed your opinion about URI ---#61664; you don't care is he is still doing the same frauds and “laughing” to all the ones who thought he was “eliminated”.
D) You just care about Latinijral and what the new scepticism can do to “eliminate” all kind of fraudulent people.



A)Correct
B)Correct
C)Partially correct. I don't much care about Uri Geller. However I have no idea what he's doing these days, whether or not he is laughing at anybody, or if anybody thought he was eliminated.
D)Wrong. I seriously doubt you or the "new skepticism" can eliminate anybody. And I think your obsession with this need to eliminate all kinds of fraudulent people is very unhealthy.

The foundation of morality is to . . . give up pretending to believe that for which there is no evidence, and repeating unintelligible propositions about things beyond the possibliities of knowledge.
T. H. Huxley

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filthy
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USA
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Posted - 03/10/2005 :  03:07:56   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send filthy a Private Message
quote:
Look at filthy, at least he has only the mistake of the misinterpretation of my OP.
Like others, he thinks that I came here to defend URI, he thinks that I don't know about URI tricks ( even that I wrote where those tricks were originated),he thinks I believe in URI's paranormal powers, he thinks he discovered the warm water about URI,etc.
The only problem of these kinds of posters is their absence of evidence.
That is why I am literally laughing at them.
Think people ,think.

Then kindly explain, if possible, exactly what your meanings are. Some of us, myself for example, are not very well educated and require enlightenment. And when you've finished that explaiation, there is this to deal with:

You have debunked the old skepticism, or so you claim. Then what pray do you have to replace it with, other than bullshit?

C'mon 'Jarl, the world hungerly awaits your wisdom.


"What luck for rulers that men do not think." -- Adolf Hitler (1889 - 1945)

"If only we could impeach on the basis of criminal stupidity, 90% of the Rethuglicans and half of the Democrats would be thrown out of office." ~~ P.Z. Myres


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tomk80
SFN Regular

Netherlands
1278 Posts

Posted - 03/10/2005 :  06:19:29   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit tomk80's Homepage Send tomk80 a Private Message
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Originally posted by Ricky

quote:
Originally posted by tomk80

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Wow, that's a lot of questions. Do you really expect Latinijral to answer all of them?



I would be satisfied if he answered just one.


And he doesn't even do that. Methinks he can't even answer one of these questions

Tom

`Contrariwise,' continued Tweedledee, `if it was so, it might be; and if it were so, it would be; but as it isn't, it ain't. That's logic.'
-Through the Looking Glass by Lewis Caroll-
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Ricky
SFN Die Hard

USA
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Posted - 03/10/2005 :  20:51:38   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Send Ricky an AOL message Send Ricky a Private Message
Latinijral, what do you think of Uri?

Why continue? Because we must. Because we have the call. Because it is nobler to fight for rationality without winning than to give up in the face of continued defeats. Because whatever true progress humanity makes is through the rationality of the occasional individual and because any one individual we may win for the cause may do more for humanity than a hundred thousand who hug their superstitions to their breast.
- Isaac Asimov
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latinijral
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Posted - 03/10/2005 :  22:33:43   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send latinijral a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by filthy.

quote:
Originally posted by latinijral


quote:

Look at filthy, at least he has only the mistake of the misinterpretation of my OP.
Like others, he thinks that I came here to defend URI, he thinks that I don't know about URI tricks ( even that I wrote where those tricks were originated),he thinks I believe in URI's paranormal powers, he thinks he discovered the warm water about URI,etc.
The only problem of these kinds of posters is their absence of evidence.
That is why I am literally laughing at them.
Think people ,think.



Then kindly explain, if possible, exactly what your meanings are. Some of us, myself for example, are not very well educated and require enlightenment.



Your lack to provide evidence just proved the contrary of what you first thought. Simple like that.
So I will keep on laughing to the people who thought the same you did.
You learned a lesson son ,please don't do the same mistake again.

quote:
Originally posted by filthy.

And when you've finished that explaiation, there is this to deal with:

You have debunked the old skepticism, or so you claim. Then what pray do you have to replace it with, other than bullshit?

C'mon 'Jarl, the world hungerly awaits your wisdom.



I don't want to shame you again here.
Your question is already answered in my other thread about the tactics of the old scepticism.
I will wait for your evidence.



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latinijral
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Posted - 03/10/2005 :  22:40:55   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send latinijral a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by Ricky

Latinijral, what do you think of Uri?


About what?
Be more specific.

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Dr. Mabuse
Septic Fiend

Sweden
9688 Posts

Posted - 03/11/2005 :  03:18:48   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Send Dr. Mabuse an ICQ Message Send Dr. Mabuse a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by latinijral

quote:
Originally posted by Ricky

Latinijral, what do you think of Uri?


About what?
Be more specific.

Latinijral, you really do have an English comprehension problem. Ricky's question was general, so obvioiusly he wants a general answer.

What, in general, do you think of Uri?

Since Ricky's question was general, one could even extend the question to be read in the context of this thread, thus:

What do you think of Uri, is he a fraud, and if so: why?


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filthy
SFN Die Hard

USA
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Posted - 03/11/2005 :  04:04:50   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send filthy a Private Message
quote:
I don't want to shame you again here.
Your question is already answered in my other thread about the tactics of the old scepticism.
I will wait for your evidence.

You have shamed me, you say? How very quaint! When did you do this? Why haven't I noticed?

It is not I who needs to provide evidence -- I have made no claims other than the one below and the evidence for that is to be found in every thread in which you have been involved. I have merely asked a question, to wit:

You have debunked the old skepticsim, or so you claim. What pray, do you have to replace it? Tilting at Will o' the Wisp will not suffice.

I piss flaming nitromethane on your straw man!


"What luck for rulers that men do not think." -- Adolf Hitler (1889 - 1945)

"If only we could impeach on the basis of criminal stupidity, 90% of the Rethuglicans and half of the Democrats would be thrown out of office." ~~ P.Z. Myres


"The default position of human nature is to punch the other guy in the face and take his stuff." ~~ Dude

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