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H. Humbert
SFN Die Hard
USA
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 Posted - 08/13/2005 : 12:40:49
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Mmmmmm.....
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It is the ultimate conundrum for vegetarians who think that meat is murder: a revolution in processed food that will see fresh meat grown from animal cells without a single cow, sheep or pig being killed.
Researchers have published details in a biotechnology journal describing a new technique which they hailed as the answer to the world's food shortage. Lumps of meat would be cultured in laboratory vats rather than carved from livestock reared on a farm.
And I had no idea this notion was such an old one.
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The idea of doing away with traditional livestock and growing steaks from scratch dates back at least 70 years. In a horizon-scanning essay from 1932, Winston Churchill said: "Fifty years hence we shall escape the absurdity of growing a whole chicken in order to eat the breast or wing by growing these parts separately under a suitable medium."
Several decades too late, Churchill's vision finally looks set to become a reality.
But unfortunately steaks won't be on the menu for some time yet.
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Scientists believe that while tissue engineering is advanced enough to grow bland, homogeneous meat, tasty and textured cuts will have to wait.
"Right now, it would be possible to produce something like spam at an incredibly high cost, but the know-how to grow something that has structure, such as a steak, is a long way off," said Mr Matheny.
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Edited by - H. Humbert on 08/13/2005 12:48:15
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GeeMack
SFN Regular
USA
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Posted - 08/13/2005 : 14:04:34 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by H. Humbert...
I'd eat it. I'd totally eat it.
It seems like a reasonable idea, it really does. But I think I'll let other people do the R&D on this one, thank you very much. Darnit, now I can't get this scene out of my mind...quote:
BRUNDLE: Eat this. I need an objective opinion. Yes?
VERONICA: Well, it could use some Finesse, but it tastes like a steak.
BRUNDLE: Okay, Now try this, teleported half.
VERONICA: Are you serious? A monkey just came apart in there!
BRUNDLE: Baboon. Eat.
VERONICA: Ohh, it tastes funny.
BRUNDLE: Funny how?
VERONICA: It tastes, synthetic. So what have we proved?
BRUNDLE: The computer is giving us it's interpretation of a steak. It's translating it for us, it's re-thinking it rather than reproducing it, and something's getting lost in the translation.
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Hawks
SFN Regular
Canada
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Posted - 08/13/2005 : 16:00:45 [Permalink]
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BRUNDLE: Eat this. I need an objective opinion. Yes?
VERONICA: Well, it could use some Finesse, but it tastes like a steak.
BRUNDLE: Okay, Now try this, teleported half.
VERONICA: Are you serious? A monkey just came apart in there!
BRUNDLE: Baboon. Eat.
VERONICA: Ohh, it tastes funny.
BRUNDLE: Funny how?
VERONICA: It tastes, synthetic. So what have we proved?
BRUNDLE: The computer is giving us it's interpretation of a steak. It's translating it for us, it's re-thinking it rather than reproducing it, and something's getting lost in the translation.
I must see that movie again.
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woolytoad
Skeptic Friend
313 Posts |
Posted - 08/13/2005 : 16:57:43 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by H. Humbert
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It is the ultimate conundrum for vegetarians who think that meat is murder: a revolution in processed food that will see fresh meat grown from animal cells without a single cow, sheep or pig being killed.
How is this a conundrum? We're removed the objectionable part of eating meat.
If they can produce a quality meat, I'd eat this. But not the bland stuff. Making it tasty would probably involve the same things as making MRM tasty and it'd probably look the same. Yuck. |
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H. Humbert
SFN Die Hard
USA
4574 Posts |
Posted - 08/13/2005 : 21:55:48 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by woolytoad
How is this a conundrum? We're removed the objectionable part of eating meat.
Some won't even eat eggs.
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"The first principle is that you must not fool yourself - and you are the easiest person to fool." --Richard P. Feynman
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woolytoad
Skeptic Friend
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Posted - 08/14/2005 : 02:47:50 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by H. Humbert
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Originally posted by woolytoad
How is this a conundrum? We're removed the objectionable part of eating meat.
Some won't even eat eggs.
These types tend not to eat any animal derived product. So there is no way to come up with meat that is not objectionable.
For the ones who don't eat meat because they don't like killing animals (like the article says), problem solved. |
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Dr. Mabuse
Septic Fiend
Sweden
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Posted - 08/14/2005 : 03:34:07 [Permalink]
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"You are what you eat" is a slogan I hear every now and again.
Lately I've been thinking about that:
A chicken is a chicken, but then I taste chicken produced after Swedish "ecology"-products standard, and compare it with Danish fast-grown mass-produced (food and living standards be damned-kind of farm) chickens, I gladly pay twice the price for the tastiness of the Swedish product.
Meat is muscle, and muscle needs exercise and the right nutritions to become what it is.
The food a chicken eat will partially determine the taste of it.
If the lab-grown meat is any bore bland than the Danish chicken I've tasted, I will not touch it. |
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Siberia
SFN Addict
Brazil
2322 Posts |
Posted - 08/14/2005 : 07:40:03 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by Dr. Mabuse
"You are what you eat" is a slogan I hear every now and again.
Lately I've been thinking about that:
A chicken is a chicken, but then I taste chicken produced after Swedish "ecology"-products standard, and compare it with Danish fast-grown mass-produced (food and living standards be damned-kind of farm) chickens, I gladly pay twice the price for the tastiness of the Swedish product.
Meat is muscle, and muscle needs exercise and the right nutritions to become what it is.
The food a chicken eat will partially determine the taste of it.
If the lab-grown meat is any bore bland than the Danish chicken I've tasted, I will not touch it.
Yes.
Here, unless it happens in such a covert way, chicken and other meat-producing animals have quite a decent lives. I know there are farms where pigs are kept in clean, very sanitary stalls (they're even WHITE), with ambient music in the background to keep them cool and relaxed. Same with chickens. Cows are usually kept in pasture and only 'locked in' when they're to be milked, or when the weather is bad. |
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